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Politics by Faith, May 28, 2024
May 28, 2024

My daughter said she was hungry the other day so I went into a fatherly tale of WWII veteran Louis Zamperini. If you ever saw the movie Unbroken, it only shares half of his story. The second half is the most important. The second half is the redemption.​

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Hey, welcome to Politics by Faith, brought to you by the Patriot Gold Group. Wanted to give one more thought here regarding Memorial Day, but this is every day. Freedom-loving American patriots like us, we're not one day a year, it's every single day we celebrate these men and women. We don't need an excuse for it. Although we'll take the Memorial Day excuse. My kids on the Memorial Day event we went

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to on Monday, yesterday, they got to shake the hand of a World War II veteran. You kidding me? They shook the hand of a 99-year-old man who fought in the Battle of the Bulge. They shook his hand and said, thank you for your service. Each and every one of them. Ah, it was beautiful. I don't know if I share it here in this segment, so let me just share it real quick again,

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and if you gotta hear it twice, fine. We found out he's there, and the event's almost over, and I have the kids come over here. I gather them, I say, kids, you're like seven, six, and four, and I'm holding the baby. I said, you guys, you're not gonna believe this.

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That is a real-life World War II veteran. This is unbelievable. We're gonna go shake his hand, and we're gonna say thank you for his service. And Grace goes, wait, what do I say? I say, thank you for your service.

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Thank you for your service. Johnny, what are you going to say? Thank you for your service. Got it. Boom. Here we go.

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Sliders, we're going to do this. This is unbelievable. I can't believe we get this opportunity. We go up there. I'm like crying because I'm like a little girl about to meet Justin Bieber or some K-pop band or whatever.

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So I'm doing the best I can to keep it together. Sir, thank you for your service. Can my children shake your hand? Oh, yes, I'd love it. Jack shakes his hand and says, thank you for your service. you for your service." And the man, the World War II veteran, says,

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Son, you have a great handshake. Love your country. Love your neighbor. Done. I hope you had a meaningful Memorial Day as well. I want to share here our segment we did to kind of ease back into the week. It's a political show we do, but Monday is our first day back after a weekend. It's always like, I don't know, do we want to hit it hard? Get right to the politics. It's 6 o'clock Eastern Time. It's 5 a.m. where I am. It's pretty

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early to go heavy politics. So we try to ease into the week at least. And we told the story of Louise Amperini. The rest of the story of Louise Amperini. Enjoy. You've seen the movie Unbroken by Angelina Jolie. I saw it like ten years ago when it came out. I remember liking it. I think, I don't really remember. But the story is incredible. And of course the book is always better. Gotta read the book.

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And it's the story of Louis Zamparini. Is the name ring a bell? The problem with the movie is it only does half the book. It's half the book. You're reading the book. You know back in the day when you used to watch a 30 minute TV show and you're 26 minutes

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into the show and you're like, wait a second. This isn't gonna finish in time. There's no way they can wrap up this story in the next four minutes, what's happening here? And then they do a to be continued. You're like, ah, they didn't make it.

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And you have to wait a whole nother week. It's the same thing with the book. Like the book's, like the war's over, and you're like, wait a second, there's still a lot of book left to go. So let's just jog everyone's memory real quick

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on Louis Zamperini, a name that everyone needs to know. So he lived in Long Beach, California before the war, went to USC for track, qualified for the Olympics in the 5,000 meters. He was 19 years old, youngest qualifier at that distance ever, and still today, 19 years old.

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And he got eighth in the Olympics in Berlin, but there was something about his finish, he had such a strong finish, that Hitler summoned him up to his stand and to see him. He ran the mile in four minutes, eight seconds was his time. So then he goes to World War II,

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and he's flying in airplanes. And one of his flights, one of his planes crashes. 850 miles off the coast of Oahu. He's in the middle of nowhere. So three of the guys survive, and they're on this raft and all they have to survive is rainwater.

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They had a couple rations for the three of them and they were able to catch raw fish and a bird landed on their raft and they grabbed the bird and killed it and ate it raw. Meanwhile, they're fending off shark attacks in the middle of the ocean and it's totally zero hope that they'll be found. I was telling my kids a story this weekend because we went on Saturday or whatever, we went to a Memorial Day concert in the neighborhood.

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And Grace, who's six, is, Daddy, I'm hungry. There are food carts there, right? There are like four different food carts. They're like, Grace, you had your tacos. We gave you the pick of the litter. You had a whole array of food options.

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And you didn't want any of them, so okay, whatever, don't eat.

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She's like, what do you mean, don't eat, what do you mean? I'm so hungry.

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I said, Grace, Grace, Grace, Grace, Grace.

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Just don't eat.

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If you don't want to eat any of the food, just don't eat the food and just don't have dinner. It's fine. Or you can wait till we get home and there's some food in the fridge. Whatever, just like stop complaining.

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I said, I'm so hungry. I was like, Grace, kids, gather around, gather around. You could go a long time without food, you know. And they're like, how long? I was like, well, let me tell you the story of Louisiana Breed, that's why the story's in my brain.

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So they're on the raft, 33 days. Oh, by the way, they're also on the raft, airplane comes, one airplane came, and they shot off a flare, and the airplane didn't see. Oh, could you imagine the hope? And then it's shattered so then you know weeks later weeks another airplane flies

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low and they're like oh I'm blue it was a Japanese airplane and there's this shoot at him this 33 days into this one of the three men died 47 days in they They saw a ship, but unfortunately it was a Japanese ship. And thus started Louis Zamparini's prisoner of war camp life. And they were tormented as prisoners of war, particularly by a Japanese prison guard they named The Bird.

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He would force Zamparini to punch other prisoners until they were unconscious. One punishment he had to get punched 220 times in the face. Louis did. He'd beg for water. They'd throw burning, scalding water in his face. They'd put him in a cage and they'd poke him with sticks and throw rocks at him and force him to dance. Just constant torment. Then he worked in the coal barges. Just horrific. At one point he broke an ankle so they made him clean out the pig stalls with his bare hands. Just cruel dehumanizing. These guys they lost on average like 60 pounds. They only weighed 150 pounds to begin with. These guys are

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under a hundred pounds and dehumanized and demoralized in every way. It's such a weird thing in our history, culture, or whatever, that the face of evil in America, like when we look back, like we think of evil, we go right to Hitler, and not also Hirohito. Like isn't that like the weirdest thing?

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Like, Hitler, yes, I'm not like, oh, Hitler's not that bad. Like, Hitler, yes, but can we also add in a little Hirohito, too? All right, so that's the movie, the movie's all about that. But Angelina Jolie left out the second part of his life, and I think that's the most interesting. And I reread it this weekend.

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So let me share some highlights, if I may. Also I was thinking about this, because when I was, so we're at the memorial service yesterday, and here's this 99-year-old World War II veteran. It's hot out. It's hot. We're in Tennessee. It's hot, humid, gross. People

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are like, the pass out fans. I was having a tough time. And here's this 99 year old veteran over there in khaki pants, dress shoes, long sleeve shirt, and a suit jacket. Fine. Standing, totally fine. Doesn't bother him at all. I'm over here trying to be tough for my kids so they don't complain. Meanwhile, this guy's over here like it's nothing. So, Louie Zamperini, after the war,

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gets home to LA and he finds his childhood home where his parents still live. And I love this line. He looks at this house that he grew up in and he says, this, this little home was worth all of it.

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I love that.

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And the power of that line means even more when you really fully realize what all of it is. All of it is the worst thing you could possibly imagine. Yet that was all worth it because of his little house that he grew up in.

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This was worth it. That's such a beautiful thing. This. And that's why last week, we were like, hey, it's not happy Memorial Day, I hope you have a meaningful Memorial Day,

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but it's not, oh, don't have the barbecue. Like, Memorial Day should be a more solemn day, but also have the barbecue and do the community stuff and do all that fun stuff too, because that's what Louis Zamparini says, like this, this home, this is why they fought,

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this home is worth all of it. I just think that's so unbelievably beautiful. So they have a nice homecoming for him and everything's fine. And at one point in the night, his sister puts on a record player, a record on the record player of some of the Japanese propaganda that they forced Zamparini to read on the radio and he lost it.

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And he screams, turn it off, turn it off. And he tells his sister to smash it in pieces and he falls on the floor and he's shivering and it's horrible. No one knew what to do, and that was the first moment when everyone's like, whoa, and when Louie's like, oh, I'm not, this is not.

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PTSD, like we think of our, I don't know about you, but we look back at our World War II veterans, and we're like, oh, they were treated well when they came home, unlike Vietnam veterans, and they didn't have PTSD, unlike, you know,

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our current wars we've been fighting. It's like, no, no, no. We just called it something different back then. So Louis had all these requests to speak and they were overwhelming but he had awards and he went and he gave 95 speeches

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right immediately after the war and even more radio interviews. And all the attention was on him and it was exhausting. So he did two things. First thing he did is he drove to the mountains

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I

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Drove to the forest he went into the wilderness and walked among the trees and he found a peace there That he hadn't felt since he was a young boy But then he got back in his car and as soon as he got back in his car driving back to civilization all the anxiety Came back So that was the first thing he did second thing. He did there was a time a gala for the LA Times He was the man of honor of course and they offered him a drink and

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it was the first time he said yes to the offer and he felt as he called it a pleasant numbness and the anxiety went away and he started drinking more and more and finally his nightmares stopped. Every night he would dream about the bird, the tormentor, the tyrant every night and he was scared to sleep. But now he could drink and fall asleep and he could drink and maybe not remember the dreams.

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So he became an alcoholic and it was so sad because there was that other option, that nature was a true medicine for him. But the alcohol was much easier. So he would have these PTSD moments, he would be in a bar and a car would backfire and he'd fall to the ground in the fetal position or someone would yell something that sounded like a Japanese word and he'd lose it. He was at dinner with a friend once and the friend got rice.

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He was served rice as a side and he lost it because it reminded him of... And then something happened. He heard the story of a former Pacific POW who went into a store and saw one of his former Japanese captors and he called the police and the police arrested the Japanese guy as a war criminal and Louie heard that story and he decided this is it this is my new life mission my new life mission is to find the bird and kill him so now he's

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anxiety, fear, depression, alcohol, and now rage. So he walked around every single day with murder on his mind. He went and he practiced boxing, just imagining beating the bird to death. Hillenbrand who wrote the book, she says, in seeking the bird's death to free himself, Louis had chained himself once again to his tyrant. He had one nightmare and the bird was beating him as always.

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But in this nightmare he was able to get on top of the bird because he was winning, right? He was fighting in his mind all day. He was ruminating about how he was going to kill the bird. So now here he is dreaming about him actually killing the bird. And he got on top of the bird and was choking him. And then he woke up and he was choking his pregnant wife who was lying next to him in bed in real life.

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His daughter was born, he loved that girl but he couldn't take care of her. He would shake her and he would just keep drinking and his wife finally left and filed for divorce and it was the lowest point of his life. It was lower than shoveling pig filth by hand. I think this part, like this is, and I understand there is a movie made about this actually. I haven't seen it, but there's a, one of those Christian movies made about this.

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Christian movies, what do you mean? One day, a man set up a circus tent in Los Angeles and set up 6,500 chairs. And the man had a press conference to announce a three week long event that he was having in Los Angeles and not a single newspaper covered the story. So they had this event and no one showed up for the first few days and then more people showed up and then it was half filled and then by the end of the three weeks the tent

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was filled and newspapers started picking it up and Billy Graham kicked off his revival in Los Angeles. Now Louie and his wife didn't get a divorce but things were really tough. She begged him to go hear Billy Graham speak and he kept saying no over and over again he said no and his neighbor awesome Louie you got to go go here but go once go one time and he finally went he sat in the back row and

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Billy Graham's up there and these you can hear the real recordings of these sermons so Billy Graham's out there and he's reading John 8 this is the story of the adulterous woman who was going to be stoned to death and Jesus said if any one of you is without sin let him be the first to throw a stone. And he's hearing this and he was full of rage. And Billy Graham even said, oh, I'm sure you're thinking you're not a bad fella.

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But when you die, God's going to pull down a screen and show you everything you ever did and every thought you ever had in your head for every second of your life. And those words and thoughts and deeds are going to condemn you. And God is going to say, depart from me. And Louis lost it. Absolutely, I'm a good man, I'm a good man.

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And he knew it was a lie, but he left.

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He ran.

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Ran away. And his wife begged him to go back the next day. And he did. And Billy Graham, and I love this story so much. Remember this for next week's gratitude segment. This next sermon, and you can find it online, it's called, it's about communism. It's entitled, the problems with communism or something.

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I can find it, one more second, I'll find it during the break. It's not Satan's religion, that's not the one. Why God Allows Communism to Flourish, that's it. So you can hear the real sermon. Why God Allows Communism to Flourish, 1949. So he's talking about God's power and God's creation

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and God and beauty and he's talking about the beautiful California sky and how God made that and how God knows the numbers of hairs on your head and knows when a sparrow falls and loves you even more and all that. And in the midst of this beautiful sermon, Louis had this flashback. And he remembered one day when he was on this raft for the 47 days, right?

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And he was dying, but for some reason he was looking up in the sky and the clouds captured him in some way. And he forgot that he was dying and he forgot how hungry he was and he forgot how thirsty he was, and he felt this overwhelming sense of gratitude. Keep in mind, he's on the raft,

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no hope at all of anything, starving. Not like, oh, I'm at an event and I don't like the food trucks, starving. Like, actual starving, dying, being fried to death, sharks around him, but he felt overwhelming gratitude. to.

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And that feeling came back to him. He forgot it. It came back to him. And then Billy Graham said that God works in miracles. And then Louis thought of how when the plane crashed, he was underwater and he was trapped in all these wires and he couldn't get out.

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And then all the wires vanished. And he was able to get to the surface and he thought back of how the Japanese plane flew overhead and riddled him with bullets but not one hit him and once again he had a yet another flashback when he said He whispered One time on the raft

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He wasn't religious at all. He didn't know God at all. He said if you save me, I will serve you forever He said that he remembered he forgot he said it he remembered he said that That was it he went home poured all the alcohol down the drain and for the first night since Did not dream about the bird and the bird never entered his dreams

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ever again

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and for the first time in his life or I should say for the first time post-war he started to think not of everything that happened to him but of all the things look all the terrible things but of all the things that happened to save him. And he thought not of all of his misery, but of all the things that, and all the people that intervened to keep him alive.

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And totally changed his mindset. And the bird tried to take away his humanity, but instead, now, he was born again. I'll leave you to read the book and you can finish the rest because there's more to the story even after that. He did make it back to Japan, I'll tell you that.

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But I just think of that, I mean,

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there's so many unbelievable things. Like, so just to wrap up, remember last week we talked about Barack Obama's speech to the college graduates of Morehouse College back in 2013 and he said, hey, there's people all around the world today who have it way worse than you, you've ever had it.

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And people in our history have had it way worse than you've ever had it. So stop complaining. No one cares about anything in your life. No one cares about the discrimination. That's Barack Obama back in,

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no one cares about discrimination that you've had. No one cares about the tough things you've had in your life. You just suck it up and let's go.

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Almost no one has ever had it worse than Louie Zamperini.

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He made it out the other side. If you want to read the book, you can check out,

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there's more to the story, but I will say

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this one thing he did. He started a boys camp. He bought this camp with no money, it was a total dump, renovated it himself, and made this camp for troubled youths for boys, for boys who were on the wrong path and they went swimming and horseback riding and camping and mountain biking and they were back in nature they were

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back in God's creation and who knows how many lives he saved doing that as well come on that's an incredible story that's as good as it gets so remember that story next time your kids complain that they're hungry that story next time your kids complain that they're hungry kids complain that they're hungry.

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There were times we regretted. 

The summer palaces on slopes, the terraces and the silken girls bringing sherbert. This is what they left. Then the camel men cursing and grumbling and running away and wanting their liquor and women. And the night fires going out and the lack of shelters and the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly and the villages dirty and charging high prices. A hard time we had of it. At the end, we preferred to travel all night, sleeping in snatches with the voices singing in our ears, saying that this was all folly. 

What are we doing? Look what we left. We left a beautiful place for this. And all day, sleeping in snatches, singing in our voices, singing in our ears, saying, what are we doing? Let's go to stanza number two. Then at dawn, we came down to a temperate valley, wet below the snow line, smelling of vegetation with a running stream and a water mill beating the darkness and three trees on the low sky. 

And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow. Then we came to a tavern with vine leaves over the lintel, six hands at an open door, dicing for pieces of silver and feet kicking the empty wine skins. But there was no information. And so we continued and arrived that evening. Not a moment too soon finding the place. It was, you may say, satisfactory. 

You can go back and listen to that stanza again and, or better yet, you read it and you can see, maybe easier to see, the, um, all the allusions to Jesus. Three trees. for the three chords. A white horse. Maybe the water mill beating the darkness is baptism. We have a river here, like a water river of life. 

We have dice, right? Casting of lots. Jesus is the vine. We have wineskins. A lot of biblical imagery here as they're on their journey. And essays and essays could be written about the last line of this penultimate stanza. 

And arriving at evening, not a moment too soon, finding the place, it was, you may say, satisfactory. When I first hear the word satisfactory, I think, uh, it's like, uh, all right, I guess. I guess it's fine. It's like a motel six or something like, all right, like it's a bad, I guess, I guess it's fine. Right. But no, that's not what satisfactory meant. 

So I went back to Webster's 1828 dictionary. Satisfactory, a most wise and sufficient means of salvation by the satisfactory. 

and meritorious death and obedience of the incarnate Son of God, Jesus Christ. 

" That's their definition of the word satisfactory. It means Christ is the satisfaction of the law. Satisfied. We've turned satisfied into a performance review. Satisfactory, not satisfactory, above satisfactory. Satisfactory is amazing. 

Satisfactory is unbelievably profound. We have this long and this constant longing that we can never fulfill until we die and go to heaven to be satisfied. And Jesus was the price paid. His death on the cross was the price paid for our sins. It's satisfied. It was satisfactory. 

So it shouldn't be read, and arrived that evening, not a moment too soon, finding the place. Were we led all that way for birth? There was a birth, certainly. We had evidence, no doubt. I had seen birth and death, but I thought they were different. This birth was hard and bitter agony for us, like death, our death. 

We returned to our places, these kingdoms, but no longer at ease here. And the old dispensation, just way of things, and our old way of things. With an alien people clutching their gods, I should be glad of another death. No longer at ease here. Everything's different for them. It's the same. 

The place is the same, but they are different. They now see these alien people clutching their gods. They saw Jesus. And we know Jesus. We put to death our old ways. Once they saw the Savior, the old way of things for them was a death. 

Just like when we become Christians. And they didn't feel at ease where they were anymore. And neither should we. Our real home is heaven. Hence this unbelievable last line, I should be glad of another death. I think of the story of the Magi as a bit of an odd placement in the Bible. 

I love that like I'm a Like, I'm the editor. I mean, I don't know, God. I don't know if you really needed to put this part in here. It seems a little random. God put it in there for a reason. He wanted us to know the Magi as a part of the birth of Jesus. 

And I don't think it was just plot development to get Herod involved and all. He wanted us to know their story. And I love this poem. 

It's a nice reminder that God came with us, Emmanuel, to save us so we can go to heaven. 

We are with an alien people clutching their gods down here. I should be glad of another death. Merry Christmas. Mike Slater dot Locals dot com. Transcript commercial free on the website. Mike Slater dot Locals dot com.

 

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George Washington and Revelation 6
Politics By Faith, December 17, 2025

Homeland Security quoted a line from Thomas Paine's "American Crisis". This post from DHS reminded me that it is almost the 249th anniversary of George Washington crossing the Delaware. We should understand Revelation 6, which Paine referenced in his essay and which was read to the men in Washington's Army.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. The other day, yesterday, I believe it was, we quoted John Locke with his Appeal to Heaven, which made it to the George Washington approved, commissioned flag. Appeal to Heaven, a quote on Judges 1127, John Locke and his second treatise of government. Today, I want to go from John Locke to Thomas Paine. Thomas Paine, during the Revolutionary War, in the beginning of it, we were losing. 

We were getting crushed battle after battle. And Thomas Paine wrote The American Crisis, a series of 13 essays, in order to boost morale. A lot of famous lines in there. These are the times that try men's souls, one of them. I just want to share some of it here. He starts off explaining the desperateness of the situation. 

He says, let it be told to the future world that in the depth of winter, when nothing but hope and virtue could survive, that the city and the country, alarmed at one common danger, came forth to meet and to repulse it. The heart that feels not now is dead. The blood of his children will curse his cowardice, who shrinks back at a time when a little might have saved the whole. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm and whose conscience approves his conduct will pursue his principles unto death. " So I'm just imagining being 1776 and you're in this country that's getting attacked by the king and how desperate the situation is and reading this. 

is to myself as straight and clear as a ray of light, not all the treasures of the world, so far as I believe, could have endured. me to support an offensive war, for I think it murder. But if a thief breaks into my house, burns and destroys my property, and kills or threatens to kill me, or those that are in it, and to bind me in all cases whatsoever to his absolute will, am I to suffer it? Of course not. " And then he makes a reference to Revelation 6 .16. That's why I'm talking about it now here in the Politics by Faith podcast. Revelation 6 .16. He doesn't quote Revelation 6 .16. He was so familiar, and so was his audience, so familiar with Revelation 6 .16 that he could just talk of it. Most historians today overlook how often our founding fathers would quote the Bible, because if you have no biblical knowledge of your own, you would miss this. You wouldn't even recognize that it was of the Bible because he doesn't say, as it says in Revelation 6, it doesn't say that. It just says these words. I conceive likewise a horrid idea in receiving mercy from a being who at the last day, so he's talking about if we lose this war, Even if they were to grant me mercy, I conceive it a horrid idea of receiving mercy from a being who at the last day shall be shrieking to the rocks and mountains to cover him and fleeing with terror from the orphan, the widow and the slain of America." That's Revelation 6, 16. 

So he's talking about how the British, even if they win this war, they will be cursed by God. They will be like people on the Latin, the last days. I'll wrap up with Revelation 6, 16 at the end of this podcast here. But the British too will be taken out by God, crying to God for forgiveness. for their sins. " Thomas Paine says, there are cases which cannot be overdone by language and this is one. 

And then he goes on and he says this, which Department of Homeland Security posted the other day with a painting of George Washington crossing the Delaware. Not the famous one, a different one, but still a great painting of Washington crossing the Delaware. Paine said, I thank God that I fear not. I mean, it just went through a pretty horrific description of the state of things, but his turn is, I thank God that I fear not. I see no real cause for fear. I know our situation well and can see the way out of it. 

I saw Homeland Security posted that and under it, someone posted a meme with that painting and it says, Americans will cross a frozen river to kill you in your sleep on Christmas. Literally not kidding. We've done that before. Which brings me to December 26th, 1776, 249 years ago. It's always fascinating to me how we look back on history and we think, oh, well, of course it turned out that way. Of course we won World War II. 

Of course we won the Revolutionary War. Of course, George Washington made it across the Delaware. Of course, we invented the atom bomb first. Of course, of course, of course, we made it to the moon, whatever. Of course, we did this thing. Of course, the Wright brothers were the first to invent. 

No, not even close. All these things that we look back on and think, well, yeah, of course it went this way. They're all miracles. And George Washington crossing the Delaware coming out to about 249 years ago was absolutely one of those miracles. His men were starving. It was freezing cold. 

It was in the 20s. There was a nor 'easter. The wind, they wrote, cut like a knife, driving sleet and snow. Many of them had no shoes. And they went on a three mile hike to get to the river by midnight. Three, three mile hike, 20 degrees, not wearing anywhere near proper attire, pitch black to get to the starting point of the mission. 

And that's when George Washington, 2 ,400 men, 18 cannons, 200 horses crossed the Delaware. Well, of course that worked. No, there were two other crossings planned at the same time or attempted, I should say. So three in total, two of them never made it. They never made it. The ice was too thick. 

The plan was too preposterous. And George Washington himself, the group he was in, he was about to abort too. They were three hours behind schedule. So by the time they made it across, if they made it across, there was still another 10 mile hike that would take another five hours. So they'd get there after the sun came up, they would lose the surprise and they'd all be killed. But he decided in his own words, quote, push on. 

Thank God they did. 22 enemy soldiers were killed, 98 wounded. The Americans captured a thousand prisoners. Only three Americans were killed in the Battle of Trenton, thanks to George Washington's crossing of the Delaware. And this was the turning point. It should not have worked. 

Conditions couldn't have been worse. They fought through a Nor 'easter. Thomas Paine published his first essay on December 19th, 1776 in Philadelphia. It was read to George Washington's troops on December 23rd, 1776. Right before, on Christmas Day, they crossed the Delaware. These are the times that try men's souls. 

The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country. But he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. Let's go to Revelation 6, which Thomas Paine knew intimately enough to reference as an offhand imagery, and that the American people and the people fighting, crossing that Delaware, knew so well that it was powerful and meaningful to them. Revelation 6 is about the six seals on the white horse, red horse, black horse, pale horse. 

Then we finally get to the fifth. Let me quote here. When he, Jesus, opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth? Then a white robe was given to each of them, and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. When all the martyrs are made, God will set it right. 

Then the sixth season began. This is the one that Thomas Paine was referencing. I looked when he opened Jesus opened the sixth seal and behold there was a great earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became like blood and the stars of heaven fell to the earth as a fig tree drops its late figs when it's shaken by a mighty wind then the sky receded as a scroll when it's opened up and every mountain island was moved out of its place and here it is the kings of the earth The great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains. 

Okay. 

They hid themselves and said, let me go back to Thomas Paine. He said, I conceive likewise, a horrid idea and receiving mercy from a being who at the last day shall be shrieking to the rocks and mountains to cover him. Here's revelation 616. So everyone, great men, mighty men, commanders, kings of the earth. They shall hide in the caves and rocks of the mountains and said to the mountains and rocks, fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb for the great day of his wrath has come. And who is able to stand all the mighty Kings, all the great men, everyone brought low. 

It's so bad. They're begging the rocks to fall on them and crush them and kill them rather than face God or in this case, the wrath of the lamb. And that's the final point I want to make here. coming up on Christmas. The wrath of the lamb in Revelation 6. The lamb we think of as the gentle lamb, the baby who we are. 

celebrating coming to earth, Emmanuel, God with us, right? Maybe you'll see some Christmas plays or whatever. That's a little baby, right? This innocent little precious baby, the gentle lamb. Well, his judgment in Revelation 6 is so dreadful that all the mighty kings and great strong men will plead to die, plead to be crushed by rocks rather than face him. So let us celebrate first George Washington and the men who crossed the Delaware. 

Coming up here on the 249th anniversary of that, let us celebrate Jesus as a baby. And also let us know that the wrath of the lamb will happen. Let's not be the people begging to be crushed by rocks rather than face him. We should be people who run to Jesus as a place of refuge, not people who run to caves, begging to be crushed to death. I'll end here. Could go on forever about this. 

Go to Revelation 16. This is the pouring out of the bowls. And this is the third, the third angel poured out the bowl on the rivers and springs of water and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters saying, you are righteous. So Lord, so you're thinking you hear all these, this wrath and it's horrible and awful. And here's, here's an angel saying you are righteous. 

So Lord, the one who is and who was and who is to be, because you have judged these things for, they have shed the blood of saints and prophets and you have given them blood to drink. So that's their punishment. They shed the blood. Their punishment is they have to drink the blood for it is their due. And I heard from. I heard another from the altar saying, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous 

are your judgments. Even in the midst of what we may look at today and think horrible, rough, whatever. From our perspective, God is good. God is good. His punishments are fair and appropriate and just. So repent, run to him, make him Lord of your life. 

Merry Christmas. Mike Slater, not your normal Christmas message. MikeSlater . Locals . com. Transcript commercial free. It's all on that website. MikeSlater .

 

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An Appeal To Heaven, Rob Reiner
Politics By Faith, December 16, 2025

Two topics on today's podcast: I love when the Appeal To Heaven flag returns to the news. Also, too many families know what the Reiner family went through with an addict son.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. I want to talk about Rob Reiner in a moment. Let me get this out off my chest first. Every once in a while, this flag comes up in the news and it's great when it does. The latest is a USA Today report. 

The congressional reporter at USA Today found a Christian nationalist flag. In his words, a controversial Christian nationalist flag. This one hanging outside the DC office of a top education department official. This USA Today reporter is very upset because this is the flag that was raised by rioters during the January 6th insurrection. Don't remember it there, but I'm sure someone had the flag. It's the same flag that flew at Sam Alito's house. 

Unbelievable. 

It's the Appeal to Heaven flag. It's a white flag with a tree in the middle and in black letters on the top it says Appeal to Heaven. Now this USA Today reporter, after being roundly criticized online, deleted the tweet and he wrote back, this flag is more accurately described as quote, a symbol associated with Christian nationalism. Why? Because when you call it a Christian nationalist flag, it makes it sound like the January Sixers made it up a couple of years ago. It's a brand new flag that they just made up themselves. 

The appeal to heaven flag was commissioned by George Washington. The tree, the pine tree in the middle was a symbol of new England. It's a symbol of, uh, well, it's a symbol of tyranny too, because the colonists, There were all these regulations that the crown put on the colonies of harvesting our own timber. The King's officials would come by and they would mark the best pine trees. It was an Eastern white pine. They'd mark the best pine trees for the King's Royal Navy, but they were our trees. 

and we wanted to use them for our boats. So the pine tree became a symbol of resistance and a symbol of independence and a symbol of our Navy, the boats, our boats that we'd use the trees for. There was also something called the Pine Tree Riot in New Hampshire in 1772. So that's the pine tree. The appeal to heaven comes from John Locke on his second treatise of government. And his point was that if you don't have anyone else to appeal to, in our case, appealing for freedom, then your ultimate appeal comes from heaven. 

He wrote, sufferers who have no, who having no appeal on earth to write them, they are left to the only remedy in which cases, in such cases, an appeal to heaven. And he quotes judges 1127, which says, you go a little bit back actually. Therefore, I have not sinned against you, but you wronged me by fighting against me. May the Lord, the judge. render judgment this day between the children of Israel and the people of Amman. So we have lacking a human court. 

The Jephthah must appeal directly to God and appeal to heaven. I love this story and I love when this flag pops up every once in a while because it highlights a few realities. One, that people have no idea about our history. That's sad. We should all know this flag. Everyone should be intimately aware of what this flag is. 

Second, how ignorant people are about our Christian roots and our Christian founding. where they see this flag and appeal to heaven and they're like, Oh, that must be some crazy evangelical Christian nationalism. George Washington, okay, appeal to heaven. George Washington commissioned the flag. John Locke wrote about it. And to prove how far we have to go still, that flag 

and the concept of an appeal to heaven should not be controversial. Go get the flag yourself. Fly it high, fly it proud. All right, let's talk about Rob Reiner and this horrible, tragic story. Rob Reiner's wife murdered by their son with a knife, slit throats, where it's reported. It's worth, as horrible as it is, I think it's worth taking a minute. 

I think it's important to take a minute to consider, to imagine this. And what Rob Reiner must have been thinking, and his wife must have been thinking, one of them saw the other die. They saw their son do it. The fear that... I don't even know. 

I don't even know. 

Just go there for a minute. It's important to do that, I think. It's about as awful as it gets. I don't know if there's a family, obviously. They made a movie together, Rob Reiner and his son, Nick. It's called Being Charlie, about their experience with addiction. 

Nick went to a It's called rehab for the first time when he was 15. He's been 17 times. He's been homeless in many different States before. I've seen three family photos and everyone in the family looks very happy and healthy and rich except for Nick. He's standing there, but he's not there at all. He's not wearing appropriate clothes that everyone else is wearing. 

And his eyes, his eyes are totally spaced out. It's just not, not there. And it's very sad. And I know this is very relatable for a lot of people. of families as well. I don't know enough about addiction. 

I'm just gonna be honest. I'm tangentially connected. I'm in no position to give any advice at all. What is the balance between people, you know, back in the day we used to say, you have a couple screws loose. That was the old expression. And how much of it comes from, like people are born that way versus how much of it is trauma from childhood. 

What the amounts are of each, I don't know. But I do know, and this is going to be next week's or this week's special is Spiritual Warfare is Real. I know it's real, and I know that plays a role. The Bible talks about alcoholism. Talk about nothing new under the sun. It's there. 

Isaiah 5, 1. Woe to those who rise early in the morning, that may run after strong drink, who tarry late into the evenings as wine inflames them. Titus 2, 3. Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine, not being a slave to wine. They are to teach what is good. It's a sin. 

And if you're addicted, you are a slave to it. It doesn't end well. Woe to those. Romans 6 20. It says, but when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at the time from the things of which you are now ashamed? 

For the end of those things is death. If you're a slave to sin, what do you get from it? Nothing. The end is death. I don't know how to break addictions other than the same way we break any sin. The only way to break sin, and that's through salvation with a new heart. 

We played the clip the other day of Jelly Roll on Joe Rogan's show, talking about a new heart, a new creation, not a slightly modified heart, not fixed a little bit here or there, a new creation, a new heart. Romans 6 .11 talks about being dead to the power of sin and alive to God through Christ Jesus. It's the only way to do it. My TV producer sent me a note the other day. It's something I'm thinking about a lot lately. Everyone's always like thoughts and prayers. 

You hear it all the time. Whenever there's a tragedy or thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers or thoughts and prayers go with now. Thoughts is the most ridiculous thing ever, but I'm setting my thoughts. I don't even know what that means. Really. It's definitely become an odd trite thing to say thoughts and prayers, but the prayers part is interesting too, because as my producer said, why not just pray right there? 

Thoughts and prayers is essentially a social way of acknowledging a situation, but not actually praying. Notice this in churches a lot too. You'll be seeing people in the hallways of the church and someone will share something. Oh man, I'll pray for you. And then you go on. And how many people actually pray for the person later? 

How often does that happen? Maybe a lot. I don't think so. Not enough. As opposed to, pray right there. Here's my challenge. 

If someone says something to you in church this Sunday, instead of saying, man, I'm going to pray for you about that. How about let's pray right now and just do it. Let's do it right there. No one will think you're weird. That's the place to do it. Now you do it anywhere, but that's a good place too. 

It's not an odd, it shouldn't be out of character to pray in the church building. What may be out of character is to pray on a podcast. Dear Heavenly Father, I want to pray for everyone who's going through addiction right now. Way too many people, God. I want to pray that you can break their addiction, give them a new heart and have the Holy Spirit speak so clearly to them that they can focus on you. and focus on good things. 

God, I pray for peace for families that are going through addiction with family members. God, I'm having a hard time thinking of anything more difficult than that. I pray for peace for them and a clarity, God, that everything will be perfect in heaven. There will be no crying or pain or addiction in heaven, and I can't wait to be there. In Jesus' name we pray, amen. We talk about the Puritans a lot on this show, and they wrote often about how God has limited our comforts here. 

and how that is a blessing so that we don't cling to this life too tightly, but instead we long for what is to come. We long for eternity. Maybe that perspective, if you can relate to what the Reiner family went through for a long time, if you can relate, maybe that perspective can be helpful. That's all I got. mikeslater . locals . com. Transcript commercial free on the website mikeslater .

 

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