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Pastor Calling For Violence Against Elon
Politics By Faith, February 11, 2205
February 11, 2025

It seems a pastor was calling for violence against Elon for "stealing your Social Security check." He justified violence by quoting Jesus in Matthew 11:12, "...the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force." What does this scripture actually mean?

Welcome to Politics by Faith.

I want to talk about this pastor in Chattanooga, who it seems is calling for violence against Ceylon and Doge and the whole conservative movement. We'll play the clip and maybe give him the benefit of the doubt. But I definitely want to take the opportunity to dive deeper into the scripture that I believe he takes very much out of context. We have a little background here.

We've been talking a ton about Doge and Elon on the Sirius XM show, because this is the conservative movement's fiscal dreams come true. We've been fighting for this, arguing for this for decades, and nothing's ever happened. We've had like Paul Ryan, like all the hope we had for Paul Ryan. And he didn't do squat and here it is finally happening all these cuts are

finally happening it's happening from Trump and Elon and it's absolutely incredible so part of me is like oh you know maybe we're talking a little bit too much about you know it's like no we cannot talk enough about doge and Elon and everything they're doing it's incredible now a lot of this still has to go through the legislative branch has to go through the house and then the Senate it's a little harder to get through the House.

It's amazing through the executive branch, and they can do a ton. It's still hard to get through the House right now. Everyone likes their own pet projects. A lot of this is gonna be really difficult to get through the Senate.

We still need, in a lot of these things, we need seven Democrats to vote for. But I have great hope that the negotiating tactics and power of President Trump and Elon, getting this stuff out to the American people and the pressure can be applied to these

Democratic senators to do the right thing. Is Slater calling for violence? No, no, no. Appropriate pressure, dealing with reason and common sense. Like maybe we shouldn't have $100 billion of fraud in our social security system.

I don't know, maybe if Elon roots out

and finds $100 billion of fraudulent social security payments, if you want to continue the social security system, if you want it to remain solvent this would be a good thing to root out that $100 billion of fraud. Wouldn't it? Doesn't everyone want to be on that team? Maybe not.

And this is it, this is the time. Elon said, this administration has one chance for major reform that may never come again. It's now or never. And he later said in another tweet, it's now or never. We are at a fork in the road of destiny. That's the mentality of Doge and Trump.

Trump got shot in the head the other day. If you remember that, it's now or never. There is a fervor. There is a zeal. There is a passion for doing what is right right now from Trump and his entire team.

So when a program is put in front of Elon and Trump, should we keep it or should we cut it? If there is any doubt, it's gone because it's now or never. And as we've said many times before, Elon, his entire mentality with business,

is you cut, cut, cut, and you know you cut enough when you have to add 10% back. That's the mentality they're gonna bring to government. We're gonna cut and cut and cut. When in doubt, cut, and if later you need to bring it back, great, you bring it back.

But you have to cut it now because it is now or never. Now, as they keep doing this, and they keep uncovering not only the waste, but more fraud and ultimately criminal behavior here shortly, soon, they're gonna face more and more resistance ultimately leading to Violence at first it was you know, they're young

Like the doge people to do guys are young. Who cares? James Monroe in 1776 was 18 Aaron Burr was 20 Alexander Hamilton was 21 James Madison who wrote the Constitution was 35 Thomas Jefferson was 33 John Adams was the ancient one in the group, he was 40. Or George Washington, he was the elder statesman, he was 44. Benjamin Rush, who was the doctor of the founding fathers,

the doctor, was 30. All right, he wouldn't even be out of med school today. So, young, whatever. The Manhattan Project guys, they were all in their 30s, a couple were in their 40s. Richard Feynman was 24.

Oh, let me see if I can find this quick.

Let's see, this is Elon, who started this. Okay, so, some guy, I don't know who this person is. Must commandos include guys who are 21, 23, 24, 25. One is 19 years old, his job title is, quote, expert. When you were 19, what were you an expert at? And Michael Dell said,

I started a company when I was 19. It's worked out pretty well so far. Founder of Dell Computers.

Great.

So the first thing, you're too young. Second thing is you don't have the experience. I love that one, experience. Where's experience gotten us? Not having government experience is the best thing about them.

Hillary Clinton tried that line, she wrote against the to the Secretary of Transportation. She said they have no relevant experience. Most of them aren't old enough to rent a car. Are you gonna let them mess with airline safety that's already deteriorated under your watch? I love under your watch. He's been the Secretary of Transportation for like a week. And he wrote back, Sean Duffy, he said, Madam Secretary, with all due respect, experienced Washington

bureaucrats are the reason that our nation's infrastructure is crumbling. You need to sit this one out. Then they tried unelected. Oh, Elon, he's unelected. Elon is the most elected non-elected government employee ever. So first of all, everyone in the executive branch is unelected,

except for the president and vice president. The secretary of defense is unelected. Like whatever, it doesn't mean anything. Trump, we elected Trump, Trump put his people in power to do his will, the will of the American people. End of story, that's the end of it.

But Elon was a package deal and everyone knew that Elon was a package deal with Trump. You voted for Trump, you knew you were getting Elon. So that's a ridiculous argument. Then they said, well, Elon's gonna steal my social security number?

We had a guy, Sean, from South Carolina call in the other day who literally said this. He said, I don't want Elon looking at my mother's Social Security number. I'm like, what do you think he's gonna do? What do you think he's gonna open up a checking account

in your mother's name or something? What are you talking about? So that's the concern. So none of this is going anywhere for them. So ultimately, it very well could resort to violence. Elon tweeted out a bunch of messages

that people put on the internet. We've got to kill these people, and we know where they live, and we know their names, and all this stuff. Ed Martin, chief of staff of the Office of Management and Budget, wrote a letter to Elon saying that we will protect all Doge work and all Doge employees.

Quote, we will not act like the previous administration and look the other way, as the Antifa and BLM rioters as well as thugs with guns trashed our capital city. We will protect those and other workers no matter what. This right here is the most official call for violence that I've ever seen. There's some Congress people who are out there saying like we got to take to the streets stuff like that. I think this one is in the lead so

so far. This is Dr. Steve Caudill, CAUDLE from the Greater Second Missionary Baptist Church

in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And from the pulpit. In this nation, I'm worried that we are on the verge of bloodshed. This is a an attempt to take us back to a day that we do not want to go and we So therefore, there will be conflict. I pray that the peace of God will win out and overcome the madness that is attempting to take over this nation. And I will say to you, beloved, no one likes violence, but sometimes violence is necessary.

When Elon Musk forces his way into the United States Treasury and threatens to steal your personal information and your Social Security check, there is a possibility of violence.

Okay, all right, all right. We got to go. We got to go back. We had a guy call in last week who said, so we're on channel 125 on SiriusXM. 126 is Urban View. So we had a guy call and he said that every once in a while, turn over to Urban View and just see what's going on over there. He said, it's crazy. They're absolutely freaking out and it's insane what they're worried about. Maybe this is what they're saying,

this is what people think.

So let's start, when Elon forces his way into the United States Treasury, what do you mean forces? Trump won the election, put Scott Besant in charge of the Treasury Department. Scott said, hey Elon, come on in.

There's no force, threatens to steal your personal information. Who's stealing your personal information? And stealing your social security check? What do you think, the richest man in the world wants your, you know, thousand dollar check or something? I don't even know what, what are you talking about?

So like, all of that is wrong. All of that is wrong. Okay. But, but then that leads to what?

And your social security check? There is a possibility of violence. Sometimes the devil will act so ugly that you have no other choice but to get violent and fight. Well someone might say, now Reverend, you know you shouldn't be talking about violence. This is the Christian thing to do. Well I will say, why not talk this way? Because Jesus did. Jesus said in this key verse, didn't He? The kingdom of heaven suffers what? Violence. And the who? The violent take it by force.

The kingdom of God is a war zone. It is a battlefield. You did know this, right?

Okay. So, let's chat about this. Let's do benefit of the doubt first. Would you get benefit of the doubt? thinks Elon is committing violence by stealing your social security check. And you, people in this church, you are going to be the victims of it because Elon is violent and violent people will steal your social security checks.

Maybe. Maybe that's what he meant.

I'm trying my best.

So I wanted to see if there's any more context here. I wanted to see if he's given any statements. So I searched up his church and I looked at his Facebook page. I thought maybe this church would have a nice Facebook page and they would say something.

So the first one I clicked on, it says, it's come to our attention that a message delivered on this time, blah, blah, blah, has led to misinterpretations and strong reactions from individuals across the country. And it's like, oh, I found it, found the church.

While we respect all houses of faith, we want to clarify that Second Missionary Baptist Church is a separate congregation and we're not affiliated with Greater Second Missionary Baptist Church. They're like, oh, okay, wait, wrong church. Wrong church. Okay, alright. So this is the Second Missionary Baptist Church and we're looking for the Greater Second Missionary Baptist Church in Chattanooga,

Tennessee. My bad, it's down the street. Okay, so they don't have a Facebook page. I didn't see any statement, but the local Chattanooga News did an interview with him, and in no way throughout the entire interview did he in any way say, oh, that was taken out of context. Here's what I really said.

We're a people of peace. I would never condone violence against Elon and Trump and conservatives. And in fact, I was saying that they're violent. Nothing, he didn't explain it in any way. He doubled down on everything he said. Okay. So let's take

this as an opportunity to talk about this verse and what this verse really means, what Jesus is really talking about. It's Matthew 11 12. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence and the violent take it by force. What does that mean from Jesus? What is Jesus saying? We actually talked about this verse a bit the other day. We referenced it the other day because it ends with,

He who has ears to hear, let him hear. Anyway, the word violent here in Greek means strong and forceful and energetic. If you look at the original Greek, strong, forceful, and energetic. This is a tricky scripture so I went to a lot of commentaries to learn how this has been analyzed over the centuries. This is Myers New Testament

commentary from 1832. In this way is described that eager, irresistible, striving, and struggling after the approaching messianic kingdom. It is as though it were being taken by storm. That's not like a violent storm, right? Strong, forceful, energetic. Those of whom, the, and then the Greek word for violence, holds true, achieve a speedy success. And that while they press forward to join the ranks of my followers, they clutch at the approaching kingdom as though they were seizing spoils and make it their own. So eager and energetic no longer calm expectant is the interest in regard to the kingdom

the Greek word here is be a states it is translated as one who is forceful in eager pursuit in Jewish culture it was a zeal for God's law back to Myers New Testament commentary he says the be a states those who are forceful in their zeal, are believers struggling hard for its possession. Matthew Henry, 1706, his commentary, it shows us what fervency and zeal are required of all.

Self must be denied. The bent, the frame and temper of the mind must be altered. Those who have an interest in the great salvation will have it upon any terms, and not think them hard, nor quit their hold without a blessing." So I will do whatever it takes, and I'm not going to complain about it.

It won't be difficult because it's obvious that this is what I'm going to do. That's the forcefulness that I have, the zeal. Barnes' commentary from 1830. He says there was, this is Jesus, "'Was a great rush or a crowd

pressing to hear John the Baptist. Multitudes went out to hear him, as if they were about to take the kingdom of heaven by force. Jesus says that since the kingdom of heaven or the gospel has been preached there's been a rush to it. People have been earnest about it. They've come pressing to obtain the blessing as if they would take it by violence.

There's an allusion here to the manner in which cities were taken. Besiegers pressed upon them with violence and demolished the walls. With such earnestness and violence, he says, people had pressed around him and John since they began to preach. Vincent's Word Studies says this word means overpowered, taken by storm. Christ thus graphically portrays the intense excitement which followed John's ministry. The eager waiting, striving, and struggling of the multitude for the promised king. Real quick, just to be clear, this does not say that we should go kill Elon Musk because he's taken

away our Social Security check.

Pastor!

The word take by force means literally to snatch away, carry off. It's often used in the classics of plundering. Those who use violent efforts drag it to themselves. They that make violence pull it unto them. Christ speaks of believers, they seize upon the kingdom and make it their own." I love this ancient idea. The passage recalls the old Greek proverb quoted by Plato against the sophists who had

corrupted the Athenian youth by promising the easy attainment of wisdom. It was Plato and this old Greek proverb, good things are hard. Dante seized the idea. I'll translate this. This is one of Dante's poems. He said, this is the more modern translation, the kingdom of heaven is taken by storm, not through force, but through passionate love and a living hope so strong and aligns with God's will. It's not like how people overpower each other, but instead it triumphs because it wants to be won over. And in being one, it wins through

kindness and grace. John 6 15, perceiving then that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king, Jesus withdrew again to the mountain by himself. That's the same idea by force like that shows the fervor that people had and it's the fervor we need again for Jesus and for the gospel not fervor against Elon finding a hundred billion dollars in the social security payments that are fraudulent like he has fervor for that. Elon that's good. Like Elon you go have a zeal for

that. We are called to have a zeal for Jesus and that pastor if I may should well pray about him. Let me end with Charles Spurgeon. He wrote frequently complaints are made and surprise expressed by individuals who have never found a blessing rest upon anything they have attempted to do in the service of God. They'll say, I have been a Sunday school teacher for years and I've never seen any of my girls or boys converted.

No, and the reason most likely is that you have never been violent about it. You have never been compelled by the divine spirit to make up your mind that converted they should be, and no stone should be left unturned until they were. You've never been brought by the Spirit to such a passion that you've said, I cannot live unless God bless me. I cannot exist unless I see some of these children saved. Then falling on your knees in agony of prayer and putting forth afterwards your trust with

the same intensity towards heaven, you would have never been disappointed, for the violent take it by force." That is what that scripture actually means. Mike Slater, dot locals dot com. Transcript and commercial free on the website Mike Slater Mike Slater, dot locals dot com. Transcript and commercial free on the website Mike Slater dot locals dot com.

 

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I love the reaction Jillian Michaels has to the truth of Jesus' existence. So many people think that Jesus didn't even exist, that he was like the Tooth Fairy. But when people hear the truth, what a joy to see the scales fall from their eyes.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. Someone asked me yesterday or two days ago. So what are you doing for Thanksgiving? And I said, Oh, I don't know. 

What are you like? 

What are you doing for the Fourth of July Thanksgiving? It's like forever away. You're talking about it's a week away. 

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But I want to play this instead, and maybe this can be encouraging to you before we go into Thanksgiving gatherings. This is a video of Jillian Michaels and Victor Davis Hanson. That's a fun video, and I don't know how much you can tell it from listening to it. But Jillian Michaels, who, by the way, is married, married to a woman, she's been going out with him. conservative kind of awakening. How shocked she is as VDH goes into the historical confirmation of Jesus outside of the Bible itself. 

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Jesus the Magician was written by a scholar at Columbia that showed that, I don't necessarily agree with his thesis, but there were a lot of people that were traveling magicians, and Christ was the best one, and that also bothered the Romans, and he was able to create mass populist Sermon on the Mount stuff. And then the message, you've got to remember that the message... 

I thought we didn't even know this guy. This is going to infuriate people, and I'm so sorry, and I stay out of it. But I thought we weren't even really sure whether or not Jesus existed, and the apostles wrote this stuff hundreds of years later. 

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Romans 13 11. Besides this, you know the time that the time has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. Let us then lay aside the works of darkness and put on the armor of light. " Isaiah 52, 1 says, Awake, awake, put on your strength, O Zion, put on your beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city, for there shall no more come into you the uncircumcised and the unclean. But awake, awake, wake up. 

This is the original wake. Be awakened from your spiritual sleep. Be awakened from the darkness that you live on. Get the scales off your eyes and see the truth. It's time to be woke. Anyway, that's why I want to take back the word woke. 

So just about the history of Jesus, that Jesus actually was a real person. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, they wrote their gospels after Jesus died, rose, and ascended. Mark was 40 years later. Matthew was 50 years later. John was 65 years later. Matthew and John knew Jesus personally. 

Mark was close with Peter. Luke was close with Paul. They all based their writings on witness testimony. Of course, it was all the work of the Holy Spirit. But I love Jillian Michaels being aghast at Jesus even being a real person. I distinctly remember, this was before I was a Christian, I was in a seminar in college, and I remember this room, I don't even know how we got up because it was about the Vietnam War or something, but everyone in this seminar, so like 15 people, were talking about how Jesus wasn't real. 

Now, I wasn't a Christian at the time at all, but everyone was talking about how he wasn't real, like he was like the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus, like straight up not real. never existed, not a real person, figment of our imagination. 

All of it. 

All of him. I remember thinking, hey, I'm not a Christian, but he was definitely like a guy. He was definitely like a real person that walked around. Liar, lunatic, or lord. These people in college say he didn't even exist. But there were a lot of historians who admitted that Jesus existed. 

And they were contemporaries of Jesus Tacitus. Roman historian wrote about Jesus in 116 AD, wrote about the persecution of Christians. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus wrote just within a few decades of Jesus's death, he talked about Jesus. Pliny the Younger mentioned Jesus as well in his writings. He wrote about how Christians would meet regularly and sing songs to Christ as to a God. Actually, I'm going to quote this, just so you don't think I'm making this up. 

This is Pliny the Younger writing to the Emperor Trajan, 112, 112 AD. Pliny said, It is my custom, sir, to refer to you in all cases where I do not feel sure for who can better direct my doubts or inform my ignorance. I have never been present at any legal examination of the Christians, and I do not know, therefore, what are the usual penalties passed upon them, or the limits of those penalties, or how searching and inquiry should be made. I have hesitated a great deal in considering whether any distraction should be made. according to the ages of the accused, whether the weak should be punished as severely as the more robust, whether if they renounce their faith they should be pardoned." " So he's like, hmm, we've got these Christian people, how should we punish them? And what's too far? Does it matter if they're old or young? What if they're weak or strong? What if they renounce their faith, should we pardon them? Or whether the man who has once been a Christian should gain nothing by recanting. So if they, if they recant, should we let them go? Or nah, anytime you even mention, you know, say that Jesus is Lord, that's it for you, no matter what. Whether the name itself, even though otherwise innocent of crime, should be punished or only the crimes that gather around it. So should you get them for worshiping Jesus or should you get them for all these other crimes? In the meantime, this is the plan which I have adopted in the case of those Christians who have been brought before me. I ask them whether they are Christians. If they say yes, then I repeat the question a second and a third time, warning them of the penalties it entails, and if they still persist, I order them to be taken away to prison until the Roman governor has arrived." 

He goes on and says, "...but they declared that the sum of their guilt or their error only amounted to this, that on a stated day they had been accustomed to meet before daybreak and to recite a hymn among themselves to Christ, as though he were a God, and that so far from binding themselves by oath to commit any crime, their oath was to abstain." from theft, robbery, adultery, and from breach of faith. " So he's like far from this being like a criminal group. Their oath was to not break the law and not to deny trust, money placed in the keeping when called upon to deliver it. When the ceremony was concluded, it had been their custom to depart and meet again to take food. Same thing we do now after church, after church lunch. But it was no special character and quite harmless. 

And they had ceased this practice after the edict in which in accordance with your orders, I had forbidden all secret societies. It's great. That was only like year 112, he wrote that letter. Jesus was real. The Christians who knew him were willing to go to their death. I'm very encouraged by the spreading of the gospel and the truth of Jesus and God to many people. 

There'll be many new people who are gonna hear the truth for really the first time, even though they've grown up in a so -called Christian country. And I'm encouraged when I hear stories like Jillian Michaels here who are amazed by what they've never heard before and curious to know more. 

It's great. 

Let me give you one of my favorite facts about Jesus that when, when I was not a Christian, I was reading my first apologetics book, Frank Turk, not enough faith to be an atheist. It makes the point that all the new Testament documents were written just within a few decades of Jesus's crucifixion. And there are 5 ,300 Greek manuscripts of the new Testament, 5 ,300. And still people are like, I don't know if he existed. Does anyone question if Plato existed? Anyone like, I don't know about that Plato guy. 

I don't think he was real. There are only 250 known manuscripts of Plato's works that survive. And those date back, even though he was alive in about 400 BC, those date back to the year 900. So you've got like 1300 years between the actual Plato, like Plato the guy. 1 ,300 years before Plato the god. and the earliest documents we have of his. 

1 ,300 years and no one questions Plato's existence. Yet for Jesus, these are contemporaries who wrote of him and people are like, I don't think so. And again, it's one thing to say you don't think he's Lord or God and all, like that's fine. The son of God, but it's another bit like, I don't think he exists. 

It's great. 

So super grateful, more people being woke, the good woke, the biblical woke. And let's just pray for more. I may have read Titus 3 the other day. I don't know if I did, but even if I did, it's worth it again. I love this section. He says, remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities. 

Talking to Titus and his church. Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, to show perfect courtesy towards all people. And that's what Pliny was talking about. He's like, ah, man, these guys are like really good people. I don't even know what to get them on. But here's the best part. 

For we ourselves, were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to His own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace, we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people. " We can't be boastful about those things. who are not Christians yet, or who are new and working through it. 

We can't be boastful because that was us not long ago. And also don't be discouraged by those who scoff, who don't believe in the truth of Jesus in the Bible. The fools will scoff. 

That's fine. 

But you also never know whose eyes you can help open, just like yours were. Praise God. Hopefully that's encouraging as we go into this Thanksgiving season. Maybe have some more interactions and encounters with people. You never know. Mike Slater, diallocals .  com, transcript. and no commercials over there. Mike Slater out, Locals .

 

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TDS Violence: The Degenerates
Politics By Faith, November 17, 2025

Some details about the would-be Trump assassin came out, and it's too predictable. There is too much degeneracy in our culture today. It all has to be rooted out. 

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thank you for being here. I just picked up this book, The Existence and Attributes of God, by Stephen Charnock, written in the 1600s by this wonderful Puritan preacher. Like, just a couple pages in. But I got a lot of underlines already. I'll just start off with this line. 

When men deny the God of purity, they must be polluted in soul and body and grow brutish in their actions. When the sense of religion is shaken off, all kinds of wickedness are eagerly rushed into, whereby they become as loathsome to God as putrefied carcasses are to men. " He didn't hold back, didn't hold back. There's a section about this scripture right here, Psalm 14 1. The fool has said in his heart there is no God. It's a fool. 

It's what a fool says. They are corrupt. They have done abominable works. There is none who does good. That's my intro to any topic we could possibly imagine in the realm of politics. It's like, spin around, put a blindfold on, spin around, throw a dart in any direction. 

We're like, great, we'll go that way and go anywhere we want. Let's go this way. New York Post has a story about the guy who was a millimeter away from murdering the president in Butler, Pennsylvania. And it's about how the FBI committed a live omission, saying, oh, we know nothing about this guy's political political motivations from online. Kids warning, if there's any kids listening right now. On one of his accounts, he went by they them. 

So there's some transgender stuff. He also was a furry into this furry stuff. So furry is so wicked and deviant. Actually, the online community is called deviant art. It's like that one website online, it's like his feminist website, it's called Jezebel. They're like, oh man, they literally actively on their own chose to name their website after the most wicked woman ever to have lived. 

And here we have a website where they went out, they called themselves deviant art. Like the pride parade calls themselves pride. It's like they're not even hiding any of this. It's all in the open. Furries are people who dress up like animals as a fetish. So he was engaging in some of this online. 

So total degenerate. The word degenerate, It's interesting, we have to have a pretty firm understanding of this word. On my radio show, this was one of the school shooters, I forget even know what, and a woman called in and said, because we're talking about demons, and she made the point that the demons, demons see weakness, they see prey, and they went after it. And you think of someone who has grown up their whole life with broken family and a school system that she's accommodates every violence or antisocial degenerate whim for 13 years, K through 12. 13 years of no accountability, no masculinity, no discipline, no guardrails, pure poison poured into their brains constantly. Throw in maybe some other horrors and abuse in there, just wicked depraved evil for their entire childhood. 

Of course, that person's soul is going to be ripe for the picking. The word degenerate, the original dictionary definition from Noah Webster, 1828, is to become worse, to decay in good qualities, to pass from a good to a bad or worse state. In the natural world, plants and animals degenerate when they grow to a less size than usual or lose a part of the valuable qualities which belong to the species. In the moral world, men degenerate when they decline in virtue or other good qualities. Manners degenerate when they become corrupt. A coward is a man of degenerate spirit. 

" Isn't that great? And because the original dictionary, Noah Webster, was such a strong Christian, one of our founding fathers, almost every dictionary word has a Bible verse. And he quotes Jeremiah 221. And this is about Israel pursuing false gods, as usual. And Jeremiah says, I had planted you a noble vine, a seed of highest quality. How then have you turned before me into the degenerate plant of an alien vine, degenerate. 

One could say the same about America. Once a shining city upon a hill, how we have turned into a degenerate plant. Now a little added spin to this. The Latin root of the word means birth or descent. So there's a connotation of falling away from the quality of your ancestors. Genius is birth or descent and de means off or away from. 

So genius, degenerate. So you're falling away from your birth. Isn't that interesting? Now I don't know if this stood out to you in the Noah Webster's dictionary definition. The plant. They used the word degenerate to describe a plant. 

It was one of the definitions. And then Jeremiah was also about a plant. 

That's interesting. 

isn't it? So in this book, The Existence and Attributes of God by Stephen Charnock, here's what he says about the word, about the fool. He says the fool, a term in scripture signifying a wicked man. Isn't that interesting? So a fool is not someone who's aloof. A fool is someone who's wicked. 

Also used by the heathen philosophers to signify a vicious person. And then it has a Hebrew word that's coming from a different Hebrew word, signifies the extinction, of life in men, animals and plants. So the word and the Hebrew word is taken a plant that hath lost all that juice, which made it lovely and useful. So a fool is one that had lost his wisdom and right notion of God and divine things, which were communicated to man by creation, one dead in sin, degeneracy. And there's all types of degenerate behavior and it's all wicked. And it has every culture, every group of people. 

It knows no race. There's no bounds of race or income bracket. There's all types. of degeneracy and degenerate behavior. None of it's good. You know, we all know for God to love the world, that he gave his only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 

We know that. Everyone knows that line. But how many people quote the next line? Let me just jump a few lines down. We'll go to verse 19. And this is the judgment. 

The light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. People love for everyone who does wicked things, hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his work should be exposed. But whoever whoever what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God." " Darkness, light, degeneracy, virtue. I don't know when this will hit fully the way it needs to. 

I pray we're in the beginnings of it because this isn't enough wherever we're at right now. We need such a proper revolution in this country. We did a great show today on SiriusXM. Three hours of the economy, basically. It was great. But make America great again cannot be GDP. 

And I want the economy to do great and all that, but that cannot be it. We need to root out degeneracy in this country. We need to get out and get rid of the darkness. We need to turn the lights on. Scales need to fall from people's eyes. We need to not only make America great again, but we need to aspire to something bigger again. 

I think this is a place here on this podcast where we can talk it out, figure it out. and hopefully spread the word. Mikeslater . locals . com is my website. We just put the transcript up there and no commercials as well.

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American Laziness and The Withered Hand
Politics By Faith, November 14, 2025

What is our responsibility to upend the entire economic order of America to accommodate for people's laziness? And, what is our duty to praise God for anything we're ever capable of doing?

 


Okay, politics by faith. Thanks for being here. We had someone call into the Sirius XM show today who I'm not sure if he was the owner or a manager, pretty high up guy who said he can't find good work. He can't find people with hard skills or soft skills, hard skills. I asked him, I was like, well, what do you mean? Like what kind of hard skill? 

What are people, what are Americans not capable of doing? He said, uh, operate and read a tape measure, basic math. And I don't, I think the soft skills are worse. Like that's more concerning. that people don't have soft skills of showing up on time or caring just a little bit, taking a little initiative, a little ownership, wanting to finish the job for the job's sake, just because it is good to finish. Thinking that something is, you know, that's not my problem. 

But that attitude, you know, after Zoran and a bunch of other Democrats won the election a week or so ago, it seems to be a common thought here that this next year, Trump and everyone really needs to focus on the economy. We got to get prices down, got to get the economy humming, got to get wages up, got things got to be good out there in the economy. That's true. But how much of the problems with our economy are so foundationally broken? How much of the problems of our economy, just laziness and maybe not even late, but just our, whatever this is, whatever the sin is, whatever the vice is. And I'm not letting the fat cats off the hook. 

There's plenty of blame to go around. Here's what I was, why I was thinking about this. I saw this, uh, this podcast called financial audit. And I watch these little shorts every once in a while. This guy is broke. He's in debt. 

He does DoorDash. He's got two kids, 10 month old and another kid and a wife. He does DoorDash. He has DoorDash, DoorDash to his car while he's DoorDashing. He said it takes two hours of DoorDashing in order to pay for the DoorDash. So that guy, so lazy and like pathetic. 

But then he's going to complain that he doesn't own a home and he'll complain that he's 40 years old and doesn't have a home and doesn't have any capital. He's in debt. And you're like, listen, man, what do you what do you want me to do? This is a serious question. What is my and our obligation to completely rewrite the entire economic order for people like this? How many bills must we pass? 

Do I have to command and demand our president and Congress people to write bills in order to help people like him? I need to change. We need to make it so home ownership is easier for him. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. There's plenty of biblical wisdom here about how you can't force people to do the right thing. Even when it's right in front of them. 

We're going to do more on Monday's radio show about this and we can report back here. What's the root of this? What is the root of this laziness other than just sin? And how do we get rid of this? Another part of this is our materialist culture where our identity and our life is all about money and how much we have. And we always need more. 

Now we have credit cards. We can get as much as we want, but no one wants to work for it. And then they complain when they don't have it. It's a mess. I read Mark 3 this morning. Mark 3 might apply. 

This might be too much of a stretch. That's fine if it is. If you don't think it's a stretch and you're like, wow, that was a great analysis. Take it. If you think it's a stretch, ignore the first part of this and let's just enjoy Mark 3 verses 1 through 6. Here it is. 

And he, Jesus, entered the synagogue again. And a man was there who had a withered hand. A withered hand? What's a withered hand? This guy's hand was paralyzed. Didn't work, shriveled up, and he couldn't make a living back then. 

So he's probably super poor as well. Withered hand. So they watched him, Jesus, closely, whether he would heal him on the Sabbath so that they might accuse him. And he said to the man with the withered hand, step forward. Then he said to them, is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill? But they kept silent. 

And when he had looked around at them with anger, being grieved by the hardness of their hearts, He said to the man, stretch out your hand. And he stretched it out and his hand was restored as whole as the other. Then the Pharisees went out and immediately plotted with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him. So we've got a couple of really interesting things here. If Jesus entering the synagogue, the critics of Jesus were there and they were watching him closely. They knew of Jesus. 

They knew what he could do. They didn't question if he could heal this man's hand. It was just if he was going to do it on the Sabbath. They were hoping it would so that they could accuse him. Isn't that interesting? So they knew of Jesus, they knew what he could do, they didn't question it. 

but none of that brought them, none of knowing what Jesus could do brought them any closer to loving him. I heard it said it was as if a man could fly, but the authorities wanted to know if he had a pilot's license. Do you imagine that? Do you imagine someone flies, someone's flying around like a bird and you're like, I don't know if he's allowed to do that. That's, he needs to check in with the FAA on that one. Let's kill him. 

Like, as opposed to what are you doing? It didn't matter that he was healing people. It was that Jesus was doing something that was taking away their power. And these men had hard hearts. It says that Jesus looked at them with anger, grieved by the hardness of their hearts. You don't hear often or think often about Jesus being angry, but here's the part I wanted to highlight here. 

Jesus said to the man, stretch out your hand. 

Well, hold on. 

How can he stretch out his hand? It's withered. That's the point of the story. Well, first of all, one interesting point too, Jesus said to the man, step forward. So the man's feet work. And his feet work well enough to even bring him to the synagogue. 

So his feet work, praise God for that. But his hand doesn't. But Jesus still says, stretch out your hand. Can't, it's withered. This is Adam Clark, around 1790s or so. He said, this is Bible commentary. 

He said, this man might have reasoned thus, Lord, my hand is withered. How then can I stretch it out? You make it whole first, Jesus. And then afterwards, I'll do as you command. This may appear reasonable, but in his case, it would have been foolishness. At the command of the Lord, he made the effort. 

and in making it, the cure was effective. So he healed the man's hand, and instead of the Pharisees saying, that was awesome, we love you, Jesus, they went immediately to these other people to destroy him. Can't please everyone, can you? This other group, they were not religious. They were Jews who loved the king, King Herod. Got to go kill Jesus now. 

Tons to focus on here. I just want to highlight the faith that it took for this man to stretch out his withered hand. Martin Lloyd -Jones says the ultimate cause of all spiritual depression is unbelief. For if it were not for unbelief, even the devil could do nothing. I wanted to bring all these together here because A, we need to focus on Jesus, less on stuff. Talking to me here. 

And two, we need to thank God for our ability to do things, to do anything. Every single part of me is withered without blessings from God. All of me is withered. Physically, spiritually, every single part of me is withered. So the fact that I can do anything ever, praise God, but it's got to be Sinful, isn't it? If you have the ability and you don't, what a waste, what an insult to God. 

I think it's very important that we encourage people to do as much as they can with their God given abilities. We should rebuke those who do not and praise those who are. Okay, quick time out here. That was the end of the podcast. I stopped recording. I was about to edit in the music before and after. 

I got distracted with something. My TV producer, Matt, sent me a text and said, Jonathan Edwards. This is exactly what happened 10 seconds ago. I said, Jonathan Edwards, what about him? He goes, that was the link I sent you. And I said that wasn't the right link. 

And he's like, oh, let me send you the right link. He sent me the right link. And here's a quote. He sent me a quote from Jonathan Edwards. It's like, oh, this is the perfect quote for what I was just talking about. This is Jonathan Edwards. 

Sin, like some powerful astringent, contracted his soul to the very small dimensions of selfishness. And God was forsaken, and fellow creatures forsaken, and man retired within himself. and became totally governed by narrow and selfish principles of feelings. Self -love became absolute master of his soul, and the more noble and spiritual principles of his being took wings and flew away. " Isn't that it? James 3 .16, where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there's disorder, there's disorder in every evil thing. 

Selfish ambition can either mean I'm going to achieve all the money and get all the money and fame in the world for me, Or it can be the opposite of that in a secular sense, but it's the same idea. It's all about me, me, me, my feelings. Even if that's laziness, which leads to poverty. Either way, you're worshiping the self. Great last second, last second shot from Jonathan Edwards, rate buzzer beater. We had a buzzer beater right at the end there from Jonathan Edwards. 

The idea is whatever we do in all things, glorify God. mikeslater . locals . com. Transcript commercial free on the website, mikeslater .

 

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