Trump signed an Executive Order ending the reign of Desperate Outcome theory. We've been talking about this for 11 years since Obama forced this on schools, but it will take time to unwind. In the meantime, perhaps understanding the Mixed Multitude in the Bible help us figure out what should replace this old system.
Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. I have a news story and I think we can make a biblical connection to this in this one particular way. Let's talk about an executive order that Trump signed yesterday reinstating common sense school discipline policies. So Barack Obama instituted this idea called disparate outcome and
the claim was that if there is a school discipline policy that results in a disparate outcome of races, then the policy itself is racist. So the example we always use because I've been talking about this for 11 years is if there's a policy that says a student can't punch a teacher in the face and more black students punch their teachers in the face,
that policy is racist. See the problems with this. So this executive order ends that threat because the threat was that if you continue to have these policies where more black or Hispanic kids are punished, disciplined in any way,
any punishment all the way to expelled, if more black kids or Hispanic kids are expelled than white kids, then you risk losing your federal funding. So as Obama back in 2014, it's called one of his dear colleague letters from the Department of Justice,
excuse me, Department of, well, Department of Justice and Education Civil Rights Division. So that's gone now. Now this also has an implication in the workforce as well. Same idea, disparate outcome.
Any disparate outcome in any aspect of a business and there's threats of lawsuits. This is one of the reasons why all these businesses spend all this money on all this DEI training, all these DEI courses and training, because they're like, we're not racist.
So they can have a policy and there's a disparate impact to it. But if they have enough DEI training courses that they require everyone to do all the time, then they can prove in court, look, we're not actually racist. That's what that is. So hopefully now with that threat of disparate
outcome theory gone, we can stop with all the DEI stuff and businesses and we can also get back to real actual discipline in our schools. So talked about that today on the radio. It's a wonderful thing that Trump did. The survey from the American Federation of Teachers, 88% of teachers said poor student discipline and a lack of support for dealing with disruptive students is a very serious problem.
I can't even begin to describe the violence that occurs inside of so many of our schools. It's crazy, like insane, insane stuff. Just yesterday, this pops up on my Twitter all the time and I hate it, but one just popped up yesterday of a 15 or 16 year old fighting, and then the kid who was on the ground,
I don't know who started it, who knows the backstory, but the one who was on the ground gets up and takes out a knife and stabs the other guy a bunch of times, right in the hallway. And kids are like part of this all the time. It's crazy the insane amounts of violence that happens. And you can't discipline anyone. It's not allowed.
And you have those extreme examples, but then you also just have a general state of chaos. Kids wandering the hallways, busting in the classrooms, beating people up, leaving. No one's paying attention. Someone's on drugs.
It's just crazy what goes on and no one's allowed to discipline. It's awful. Now, a little sidebar, but I think it's related. We were talking about education a couple weeks ago and someone called in and said, our schools are too big.
And I think there's something really to that. We used to have one room school houses,, where the schools were not too big. They were very small, all grades, one teacher. A very decentralized system. And now we have a very centralized system. And the reason we talked about this a couple weeks ago is because Rand Paul had the idea
of having one teacher for 10 million students. You have the best chemistry teacher, and this chemistry teacher teaches all the chemistry students. You have the best chemistry teacher and this chemistry teacher teaches all the chemistry students. And I guess I don't even know how that would work. Like you have just like advisors in the school that, that what great papers help keep the kids in line. I don't know. I remember in school when they wheeled in the TV, it wasn't like time to pay attention now. We're really going to enjoy this. So that's just not going to work. Didn't we live through COVID and how learning on the computer,
it's not it. That's not the answer. So I don't think we need more centralization, which is the way we're moving. I think we've got to get back more to the one room schoolhouse idea where we were decentralized as much as possible. And part of that was smaller. In 1920, the average size of a public school was 80 kids. In 1940, the average size was 217. Today, the average high school is 800. Some high schools have three, four, 5,000 kids in it.
That's insane. And the reason we keep that, well, the reason the government likes that is because it's easier to control 100 large districts than it is 10,000 smaller schools, obviously. But I think one reason why we also go along with it
is because the bigger the school, the better the football team, the better the sports. Like, oh, we gotta keep it. 1% of schools educate 20% of our kids. So 20% of our kids are funneled through these massive, enormous factories that are spitting out a not good product when it comes to the education. Just education, knowledge, let alone cultivating virtue.
So we're talking about discipline this morning and we had some teachers call in one in particular who does this in California, they call it restorative justice. So instead of discipline, you have restorative justice. And this person was one of those people. And she talked about how awful these kids' home lives are and what's a school to do?
And I kind of agree with that. We're kind of left in a hopeless place. But then finally a gentleman called in who works at a school that is small and where discipline is the culture. And these are black kids, broken families, many of them kicked out of school. So this isn't the best of the best, the cream of the crop, or of course it's going to work
where parents are super involved. That's not what this school is. But it's a Christian school, it's the first thing. But then also discipline is the culture. Because we started talking about discipline, oh, you're not allowed to discipline kids,
and oh, what do you wanna beat them? Like not that long ago they paddled kids, but no, that's not what I'm talking about. about is a culture of discipline, a culture of expectations, a culture of standards. This is who we are. This is what we expect out of everyone. And you have to fall in line with this.
This is the culture we do here. A smaller school, it's easier to do that. A bigger school, I mean, the kids are going to set the culture, right? All right, let's pivot. So that's the news story. Hopefully we see a lot of fruit of that in our public schools, although our public schools
are still run by people who hate Trump and will probably still institute all these restorative justice programs and still not disciplined properly, even though the threat of the lawsuits are gone. The damage is already done.
It's gonna be hard to unwind. So let's turn to the Bible. We talked to a rabbi the other day on our TV special. We did a special on biblical leadership. And at the end, just cause we just read, my family and I, we just read Moses, Mount Sinai,
Israelites, golden calf, that whole scene. So I was like, I'm talking to a rabbi, I ask him about it. Because it's crazy. It's crazy to think that everything the Israelites went through, that they would build a calf, a cow, a golden cow and worship it.
This is the God that let us out of Egypt. What are you talking about? And after two seconds of being shocked by these people, I think, oh, I'm the same way. Just as sinful, just as absurdly comically blind as to what God has done for me and who he's calling me to be and what he's calling me to do.
And I just go on with my own life, worshiping my own cows all over the place. So I asked him about this and how this could have happened. And he brought up this term called the mixed multitude. And I've heard this word before, the mixed multi, I've heard these words, but I've never thought about it. I've never stopped and sat and pondered
and studied the mixed multitude. What is, who are the mixed multitude? So we're in Egypt. We had all these plagues. And we mentioned this the other day that most of them did not affect the Israelites at all.
So it's pitch black for everyone except the Israelites. That's crazy. All the animals died except for the Israelites animals. So after the 10th plague killing of the firstborn, here's Exodus 12. Pharaoh rose in the night, he all his servants and all the Egyptians and there was a great cry
in Egypt for there was not a house where there was not one dead. Horrific. Then he called for Moses and Aaron by night and said, rise go out from among my people, both you and the children of Israel. Go serve the Lord as you have said. Also take your flocks and your herds as you have said and be gone. And bless me also." Threw a little, what's in it for me there too.
So then they got all the gold and the silver and all the clothes and everything from the Egyptians and they're out of here. Exodus 12, 37. Then the children of Israel journeyed from Ramseed to Sukkoth, about 600,000 men on foot beside the children. So they're thinking two million people. Could you imagine two million people
marching out of a city? What, like two million? Look up a population here. I don't know, the first city that came to mind was Boston. What's the population of Boston? Computer's super slow right now.
Everything's taking like five seconds. And the population of Boston is 650,000. All right, so we got, we're bigger than Boston. Maybe the Boston metro area. Let's see what the Boston metro area is. It's gotta be over 2 million, right?
5 million, all right. So that's Boston, Cambridge, Newton. So imagine like half of the whole Boston area or whatever city you want to be. Half of them all packing up, shipping out, hiking out of the city. Crazy scene, incredible scene, unimaginable scene. Now check this out.
A mixed multitude went up with them also and flocks and herds a great deal of livestock. Oh man, it's so easy just to skip right by that. A mixed multitude. Who are these people? The mixed multitude are non-Israelites.
So these could be people of other nations. Maybe some Egyptians. mercenaries, maybe the children of some Israelites and Egyptian parents, all different types of people, not Israelites. That's the point. Joining the Israelites, people who said, I'm out of here. And I don't know if it was, it probably wasn't.
I believe in God, I believe in their God. It was probably more, this place is crazy, I'm getting out of here, I can't take the frogs anymore. And who knows what's next? So we're going with these people. I don't care where they're going, I'm out of here. So what are we to think of these people? Let me quote John
MacArthur. He said, you'll find the expression mixed multitude three times in the King James Version of the Bible and each time it is a disparaging expression used to describe the backslidden, spiritually eclectic, morally compromised during the time of Israel's worst apostasies. For example, Numbers 11 verse 4, and the mixed multitude, multitude that were among them fell to lusting. So these people were a problem. Let me quote here Charles Spurgeon. It's
hard to quote Charles Spurgeon's sermons because I don't know when to stop. He says, and now beloved we must finish up in a very solemn manner by reminding you of the companions that came out of Egypt with the children of Israel. When the children of Israel came out of Egypt, there were certain persons in Egypt dissatisfied with the king, very likely culprits, condemned persons, debtors, bankrupts, and such like persons who were tired of their country and who, as is wittily said, of those who are transported left their country for their country's good. But
through these people, excuse me, but though these people went with the children of Israel, mark you, they were not of them. Hmm. They escaped, but the door was not opened to let them out. It was only open to let out the children of Israel. It is said that the mixed multitude fell a lusting. It was the mixed multitude that taught them to worship the golden calf. It was the mixed multitude that always led them astray." Interesting. The mixed multitude, they
were the ones who grumbled and said, let us go back because they weren't slaves like the Israelites were. And maybe for them it was better to go back to Egypt. And Spurgeon's point is similarly today, people don't understand the depth of what Jesus has done for them because they never understood the depth of sin that they were for them because they never understood the depth of sin that they were living in. So it doesn't mean anything to them that
they're the mixed multitude of today, the hanger-on-ers, the people who aren't really committed. Spurgeon said the Egyptians never had any real bondage and therefore they could not rejoice as the true Israelite did when they were set free from the yoke of Pharaoh. He said, O ye mixed multitude, you are the ruin of the churches. You set us a lusting. The pure Israelites blood is tainted by union with you. You sit as God's people
sit and yet you are not his people. You sit as God's people sit, and yet you are not his people. You hear as God's people hear, and yet you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity. You take the sacrament as sweetly as others, while you are eating and drinking damnation to yourself. You come to the church meeting, you sit in the private assembly of the saints, but even when you are there you are nothing but a wolf in sheep's clothing, entering the flock when you ought not to be there.
Wow. My dear hearers, do try yourselves to see whether you are real Israelites. Oh, could Christ say to you, behold, an Israelite indeed in whom there is no guile? Have you the blood on your doorpost? Have you eaten of Jesus? Do you live on him?
Do you have fellowship with him? Has God, the Holy Ghost, brought you out of Egypt? Or have you come out yourself? Have you found refuge in his dear cross and wounded side? If you have, rejoice, for Pharaoh himself cannot bring you back again. But if you have not,
I pray my master to dash your peace into atoms, fair and lovely as it may be. I beseech him to send the winds of conviction and the floods of his wrath, that your house may fall now rather than it should stand to your death." I love that idea. If you're not a preacher, church I used to go to that said this a lot, this idea that if you're not a Christian, I hope things go really badly for you. I hope you hit a rock bottom fast now before you die so you can turn to Jesus.
And this came up during our most recent special here that we've had churches for a long time that their number one goal is to increase in numbers no matter who they let in. And I've lost sight of the fact that the church is for the saints, the church is for the church. Like Sunday morning is for the church. James Orr, it's in the early 1900s, he said, "'Nominal adherents are no source of strength, but a great weakness to the church.
It may be the church's duty to bear with them, but she can never derive benefit from them. She may benefit them, and that hope should treat them tenderly, but they will never benefit her. Oh man, how much in these last just like a couple of years,
COVID and Black Lives Matter, all this trans stuff, whatever, has the church thought that if we just be more like the world, if we let more of the world in, then we can be more like it, and we'll be better.
No, no, no, no, no. You can benefit the world, but they will never benefit the church. They will they will be a drag upon her activity in proportion to their number. Will they exert a chilling and detrimental influence? They will stand in the way of good schemes. They will fall a lusting and provoke discontent.
The morale of a church can scarcely avoid being lowered by them. What then put them out? Not so we shall work in vain to separate tares and wheat. And we are forbidden to act on this principle, but let us do what we can to keep down their number. Interesting. I also found this analogy here of the remora type of fish, and it always hangs around the bottom of
a shark so you'll see a shark swimming around there'll be a couple of these these fish and then maybe a shark will get pulled out of the water and this this fish will just swim around the bottom of the of the ship just picking off whatever it can and the analogy is these hangers on resemble our social ones in the following particulars. They like traveling about. They do not care what they attach themselves to so long as it suits their
purpose for the time. They will not get along by their own exertions if they can find others to carry them. They are sharp in their own interests. It's very interesting, a new concept that the rabbi brought to my attention, the mixed multitude. We can bring it back around
to the political topic I mentioned. It doesn't take a lot of people to ruin it for the rest of us. It doesn't take a lot of people to ruin it for the rest of us. It doesn't take a lot of people in a school to really screw it all up. So how long must we accommodate
the people who are not playing along? Do we need a separate school system for these kids who just will not behave and will not participate and I know that sounds not nice Because we're supposed to accommodate the one But that one disruptive student destroys the education for the other 30 that are in the classroom And that's being kind that's not even referring to the violence and how much destruction is
caused, how much time is wasted for everyone else. And I don't want to accommodate the one anymore when we're letting down 30 more. I'm sure it's even worse than that. I don't know what that looks like practically. I have no solutions right here. Although I love the school that the gentleman brought up earlier. Again, with the culture of discipline and order,
that's obviously what we need, big picture, but we have to be careful of a mixed multitude that just destroys. Now, these are kids we're talking about, right? I'm not suggesting we throw these kids in prison and just be done with them forever. They're ruined. There's compassion and mercy and grace, of course, and it's all done out of love. Everything we have to do moving forward is love.
And I don't want these kids to end up in prison. That's the point. We're trying to avoid sending these kids into prison and continuing the cycle of poverty and impregnating women and more poverty and abuse and drugs and gangs. Like we want to stop all that. But what we're doing now isn't working for them and it's not working for the other kids
who want to learn either. Remember there's a study done a while back where they took a disruptive student and put them in a group of kids that were unified to see what would happen if the one bad apple spoils the bunch theory was true.
And then they also took some kids that were disruptive and they put like one good apple in there and it didn't work. It was, it was, it was, and the one, the good apple didn't work on the other kids and the one bad apple was able to tear down everything else.
Like that principle is true. A mixed multitude can cause a lot of trouble. Let's identify this, prioritize appropriately, and see how we can solve this major problem in our country. Mike Slater.locals.com is my website. Transcript commercial free on the website. Mike Slater. locals dot com is my website. Transcript commercial free on the website. Mike Slater dot locals dot com.
