School Discipline Executive Order and the Mixed Multitude

MikeSlater

Politics • Spirituality/Belief • Culture

Politics By Faith, April 24, 2025

April 24, 2025

Trump signed an Executive Order ending the reign of Desperate Outcome theory. We've been talking about this for 11 years since Obama forced this on schools, but it will take time to unwind. In the meantime, perhaps understanding the Mixed Multitude in the Bible help us figure out what should replace this old system.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. I have a news story and I think we can make a biblical connection to this in this one particular way. Let's talk about an executive order that Trump signed yesterday reinstating common sense school discipline policies. So Barack Obama instituted this idea called disparate outcome and

the claim was that if there is a school discipline policy that results in a disparate outcome of races, then the policy itself is racist. So the example we always use because I've been talking about this for 11 years is if there's a policy that says a student can't punch a teacher in the face and more black students punch their teachers in the face,

that policy is racist. See the problems with this. So this executive order ends that threat because the threat was that if you continue to have these policies where more black or Hispanic kids are punished, disciplined in any way,

any punishment all the way to expelled, if more black kids or Hispanic kids are expelled than white kids, then you risk losing your federal funding. So as Obama back in 2014, it's called one of his dear colleague letters from the Department of Justice,

excuse me, Department of, well, Department of Justice and Education Civil Rights Division. So that's gone now. Now this also has an implication in the workforce as well. Same idea, disparate outcome.

Any disparate outcome in any aspect of a business and there's threats of lawsuits. This is one of the reasons why all these businesses spend all this money on all this DEI training, all these DEI courses and training, because they're like, we're not racist.

So they can have a policy and there's a disparate impact to it. But if they have enough DEI training courses that they require everyone to do all the time, then they can prove in court, look, we're not actually racist. That's what that is. So hopefully now with that threat of disparate

outcome theory gone, we can stop with all the DEI stuff and businesses and we can also get back to real actual discipline in our schools. So talked about that today on the radio. It's a wonderful thing that Trump did. The survey from the American Federation of Teachers, 88% of teachers said poor student discipline and a lack of support for dealing with disruptive students is a very serious problem.

I can't even begin to describe the violence that occurs inside of so many of our schools. It's crazy, like insane, insane stuff. Just yesterday, this pops up on my Twitter all the time and I hate it, but one just popped up yesterday of a 15 or 16 year old fighting, and then the kid who was on the ground,

I don't know who started it, who knows the backstory, but the one who was on the ground gets up and takes out a knife and stabs the other guy a bunch of times, right in the hallway. And kids are like part of this all the time. It's crazy the insane amounts of violence that happens. And you can't discipline anyone. It's not allowed.

And you have those extreme examples, but then you also just have a general state of chaos. Kids wandering the hallways, busting in the classrooms, beating people up, leaving. No one's paying attention. Someone's on drugs.

It's just crazy what goes on and no one's allowed to discipline. It's awful. Now, a little sidebar, but I think it's related. We were talking about education a couple weeks ago and someone called in and said, our schools are too big.

And I think there's something really to that. We used to have one room school houses,, where the schools were not too big. They were very small, all grades, one teacher. A very decentralized system. And now we have a very centralized system. And the reason we talked about this a couple weeks ago is because Rand Paul had the idea

of having one teacher for 10 million students. You have the best chemistry teacher, and this chemistry teacher teaches all the chemistry students. You have the best chemistry teacher and this chemistry teacher teaches all the chemistry students. And I guess I don't even know how that would work. Like you have just like advisors in the school that, that what great papers help keep the kids in line. I don't know. I remember in school when they wheeled in the TV, it wasn't like time to pay attention now. We're really going to enjoy this. So that's just not going to work. Didn't we live through COVID and how learning on the computer,

it's not it. That's not the answer. So I don't think we need more centralization, which is the way we're moving. I think we've got to get back more to the one room schoolhouse idea where we were decentralized as much as possible. And part of that was smaller. In 1920, the average size of a public school was 80 kids. In 1940, the average size was 217. Today, the average high school is 800. Some high schools have three, four, 5,000 kids in it.

That's insane. And the reason we keep that, well, the reason the government likes that is because it's easier to control 100 large districts than it is 10,000 smaller schools, obviously. But I think one reason why we also go along with it

is because the bigger the school, the better the football team, the better the sports. Like, oh, we gotta keep it. 1% of schools educate 20% of our kids. So 20% of our kids are funneled through these massive, enormous factories that are spitting out a not good product when it comes to the education. Just education, knowledge, let alone cultivating virtue.

So we're talking about discipline this morning and we had some teachers call in one in particular who does this in California, they call it restorative justice. So instead of discipline, you have restorative justice. And this person was one of those people. And she talked about how awful these kids' home lives are and what's a school to do?

And I kind of agree with that. We're kind of left in a hopeless place. But then finally a gentleman called in who works at a school that is small and where discipline is the culture. And these are black kids, broken families, many of them kicked out of school. So this isn't the best of the best, the cream of the crop, or of course it's going to work

where parents are super involved. That's not what this school is. But it's a Christian school, it's the first thing. But then also discipline is the culture. Because we started talking about discipline, oh, you're not allowed to discipline kids,

and oh, what do you wanna beat them? Like not that long ago they paddled kids, but no, that's not what I'm talking about. about is a culture of discipline, a culture of expectations, a culture of standards. This is who we are. This is what we expect out of everyone. And you have to fall in line with this.

This is the culture we do here. A smaller school, it's easier to do that. A bigger school, I mean, the kids are going to set the culture, right? All right, let's pivot. So that's the news story. Hopefully we see a lot of fruit of that in our public schools, although our public schools

are still run by people who hate Trump and will probably still institute all these restorative justice programs and still not disciplined properly, even though the threat of the lawsuits are gone. The damage is already done.

It's gonna be hard to unwind. So let's turn to the Bible. We talked to a rabbi the other day on our TV special. We did a special on biblical leadership. And at the end, just cause we just read, my family and I, we just read Moses, Mount Sinai,

Israelites, golden calf, that whole scene. So I was like, I'm talking to a rabbi, I ask him about it. Because it's crazy. It's crazy to think that everything the Israelites went through, that they would build a calf, a cow, a golden cow and worship it.

This is the God that let us out of Egypt. What are you talking about? And after two seconds of being shocked by these people, I think, oh, I'm the same way. Just as sinful, just as absurdly comically blind as to what God has done for me and who he's calling me to be and what he's calling me to do.

And I just go on with my own life, worshiping my own cows all over the place. So I asked him about this and how this could have happened. And he brought up this term called the mixed multitude. And I've heard this word before, the mixed multi, I've heard these words, but I've never thought about it. I've never stopped and sat and pondered

and studied the mixed multitude. What is, who are the mixed multitude? So we're in Egypt. We had all these plagues. And we mentioned this the other day that most of them did not affect the Israelites at all.

So it's pitch black for everyone except the Israelites. That's crazy. All the animals died except for the Israelites animals. So after the 10th plague killing of the firstborn, here's Exodus 12. Pharaoh rose in the night, he all his servants and all the Egyptians and there was a great cry

in Egypt for there was not a house where there was not one dead. Horrific. Then he called for Moses and Aaron by night and said, rise go out from among my people, both you and the children of Israel. Go serve the Lord as you have said. Also take your flocks and your herds as you have said and be gone. And bless me also." Threw a little, what's in it for me there too.

So then they got all the gold and the silver and all the clothes and everything from the Egyptians and they're out of here. Exodus 12, 37. Then the children of Israel journeyed from Ramseed to Sukkoth, about 600,000 men on foot beside the children. So they're thinking two million people. Could you imagine two million people

marching out of a city? What, like two million? Look up a population here. I don't know, the first city that came to mind was Boston. What's the population of Boston? Computer's super slow right now.

Everything's taking like five seconds. And the population of Boston is 650,000. All right, so we got, we're bigger than Boston. Maybe the Boston metro area. Let's see what the Boston metro area is. It's gotta be over 2 million, right?

5 million, all right. So that's Boston, Cambridge, Newton. So imagine like half of the whole Boston area or whatever city you want to be. Half of them all packing up, shipping out, hiking out of the city. Crazy scene, incredible scene, unimaginable scene. Now check this out.

A mixed multitude went up with them also and flocks and herds a great deal of livestock. Oh man, it's so easy just to skip right by that. A mixed multitude. Who are these people? The mixed multitude are non-Israelites.

So these could be people of other nations. Maybe some Egyptians. mercenaries, maybe the children of some Israelites and Egyptian parents, all different types of people, not Israelites. That's the point. Joining the Israelites, people who said, I'm out of here. And I don't know if it was, it probably wasn't.

I believe in God, I believe in their God. It was probably more, this place is crazy, I'm getting out of here, I can't take the frogs anymore. And who knows what's next? So we're going with these people. I don't care where they're going, I'm out of here. So what are we to think of these people? Let me quote John

MacArthur. He said, you'll find the expression mixed multitude three times in the King James Version of the Bible and each time it is a disparaging expression used to describe the backslidden, spiritually eclectic, morally compromised during the time of Israel's worst apostasies. For example, Numbers 11 verse 4, and the mixed multitude, multitude that were among them fell to lusting. So these people were a problem. Let me quote here Charles Spurgeon. It's

hard to quote Charles Spurgeon's sermons because I don't know when to stop. He says, and now beloved we must finish up in a very solemn manner by reminding you of the companions that came out of Egypt with the children of Israel. When the children of Israel came out of Egypt, there were certain persons in Egypt dissatisfied with the king, very likely culprits, condemned persons, debtors, bankrupts, and such like persons who were tired of their country and who, as is wittily said, of those who are transported left their country for their country's good. But

through these people, excuse me, but though these people went with the children of Israel, mark you, they were not of them. Hmm. They escaped, but the door was not opened to let them out. It was only open to let out the children of Israel. It is said that the mixed multitude fell a lusting. It was the mixed multitude that taught them to worship the golden calf. It was the mixed multitude that always led them astray." Interesting. The mixed multitude, they

were the ones who grumbled and said, let us go back because they weren't slaves like the Israelites were. And maybe for them it was better to go back to Egypt. And Spurgeon's point is similarly today, people don't understand the depth of what Jesus has done for them because they never understood the depth of sin that they were for them because they never understood the depth of sin that they were living in. So it doesn't mean anything to them that

they're the mixed multitude of today, the hanger-on-ers, the people who aren't really committed. Spurgeon said the Egyptians never had any real bondage and therefore they could not rejoice as the true Israelite did when they were set free from the yoke of Pharaoh. He said, O ye mixed multitude, you are the ruin of the churches. You set us a lusting. The pure Israelites blood is tainted by union with you. You sit as God's people

sit and yet you are not his people. You sit as God's people sit, and yet you are not his people. You hear as God's people hear, and yet you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity. You take the sacrament as sweetly as others, while you are eating and drinking damnation to yourself. You come to the church meeting, you sit in the private assembly of the saints, but even when you are there you are nothing but a wolf in sheep's clothing, entering the flock when you ought not to be there.

Wow. My dear hearers, do try yourselves to see whether you are real Israelites. Oh, could Christ say to you, behold, an Israelite indeed in whom there is no guile? Have you the blood on your doorpost? Have you eaten of Jesus? Do you live on him?

Do you have fellowship with him? Has God, the Holy Ghost, brought you out of Egypt? Or have you come out yourself? Have you found refuge in his dear cross and wounded side? If you have, rejoice, for Pharaoh himself cannot bring you back again. But if you have not,

I pray my master to dash your peace into atoms, fair and lovely as it may be. I beseech him to send the winds of conviction and the floods of his wrath, that your house may fall now rather than it should stand to your death." I love that idea. If you're not a preacher, church I used to go to that said this a lot, this idea that if you're not a Christian, I hope things go really badly for you. I hope you hit a rock bottom fast now before you die so you can turn to Jesus.

And this came up during our most recent special here that we've had churches for a long time that their number one goal is to increase in numbers no matter who they let in. And I've lost sight of the fact that the church is for the saints, the church is for the church. Like Sunday morning is for the church. James Orr, it's in the early 1900s, he said, "'Nominal adherents are no source of strength, but a great weakness to the church.

It may be the church's duty to bear with them, but she can never derive benefit from them. She may benefit them, and that hope should treat them tenderly, but they will never benefit her. Oh man, how much in these last just like a couple of years,

COVID and Black Lives Matter, all this trans stuff, whatever, has the church thought that if we just be more like the world, if we let more of the world in, then we can be more like it, and we'll be better.

No, no, no, no, no. You can benefit the world, but they will never benefit the church. They will they will be a drag upon her activity in proportion to their number. Will they exert a chilling and detrimental influence? They will stand in the way of good schemes. They will fall a lusting and provoke discontent.

The morale of a church can scarcely avoid being lowered by them. What then put them out? Not so we shall work in vain to separate tares and wheat. And we are forbidden to act on this principle, but let us do what we can to keep down their number. Interesting. I also found this analogy here of the remora type of fish, and it always hangs around the bottom of

a shark so you'll see a shark swimming around there'll be a couple of these these fish and then maybe a shark will get pulled out of the water and this this fish will just swim around the bottom of the of the ship just picking off whatever it can and the analogy is these hangers on resemble our social ones in the following particulars. They like traveling about. They do not care what they attach themselves to so long as it suits their

purpose for the time. They will not get along by their own exertions if they can find others to carry them. They are sharp in their own interests. It's very interesting, a new concept that the rabbi brought to my attention, the mixed multitude. We can bring it back around

to the political topic I mentioned. It doesn't take a lot of people to ruin it for the rest of us. It doesn't take a lot of people to ruin it for the rest of us. It doesn't take a lot of people in a school to really screw it all up. So how long must we accommodate

the people who are not playing along? Do we need a separate school system for these kids who just will not behave and will not participate and I know that sounds not nice Because we're supposed to accommodate the one But that one disruptive student destroys the education for the other 30 that are in the classroom And that's being kind that's not even referring to the violence and how much destruction is

caused, how much time is wasted for everyone else. And I don't want to accommodate the one anymore when we're letting down 30 more. I'm sure it's even worse than that. I don't know what that looks like practically. I have no solutions right here. Although I love the school that the gentleman brought up earlier. Again, with the culture of discipline and order,

that's obviously what we need, big picture, but we have to be careful of a mixed multitude that just destroys. Now, these are kids we're talking about, right? I'm not suggesting we throw these kids in prison and just be done with them forever. They're ruined. There's compassion and mercy and grace, of course, and it's all done out of love. Everything we have to do moving forward is love.

And I don't want these kids to end up in prison. That's the point. We're trying to avoid sending these kids into prison and continuing the cycle of poverty and impregnating women and more poverty and abuse and drugs and gangs. Like we want to stop all that. But what we're doing now isn't working for them and it's not working for the other kids

who want to learn either. Remember there's a study done a while back where they took a disruptive student and put them in a group of kids that were unified to see what would happen if the one bad apple spoils the bunch theory was true.

And then they also took some kids that were disruptive and they put like one good apple in there and it didn't work. It was, it was, it was, and the one, the good apple didn't work on the other kids and the one bad apple was able to tear down everything else.

Like that principle is true. A mixed multitude can cause a lot of trouble. Let's identify this, prioritize appropriately, and see how we can solve this major problem in our country. Mike Slater.locals.com is my website. Transcript commercial free on the website. Mike Slater. locals dot com is my website. Transcript commercial free on the website. Mike Slater dot locals dot com.

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but more and more are going to be coming out and more and more things are going to happen here. So I just want you to know this first background things about the demographics and the situation in LA and where this is all coming out of. Okay, let's turn to the Bible here. Let's talk about Proverbs 28 and I want to start by reading it and you tell me if this is relevant to us or not. Deuteronomy 28, but it shall come to pass if you do not obey the voice of the Lord

your God, to observe carefully all his commandments and his statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you. This is all conditional and it is in many cases around the Bible. 1 Kings 2 which we quoted last week says, if your sons take heed to their way to walk before me in truth with all their heart and with all their soul you shall not lack a man on the throne of Israel. There's a lot of ifs and here's a big one in Deuteronomy 28. If you, in this

case, if you do not obey, then these are the terrible things are going to happen. May I read the list here? Cursed shall you be in the city and cursed shall you be in the country. So it's everywhere. There's no escaping it. Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. So everywhere, your homes, farms, kitchen, everywhere you'll be cursed. "'Cursed shall be the fruit of your body

and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks. Cursed shall be you when you come in and cursed shall be you when you go out. The Lord will send on you cursing,

confusion and rebuke in all that you set your hands to do until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly." You're starting to get the picture here because of the will. Israel, like this is what God said in Israel, like, if you don't obey here's what will happen. "...because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken me. The Lord will make the plague cling to you until he has consumed you from the land which you have forsaken me. The Lord will make the plague cling to you

until he has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. You will have no health. The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, with mildew.

They shall pursue you until you perish. And your heavens, which are over your head, shall be bronze, and the earth, which is under you, shall be iron. The Lord will change the rain of your land to powder and dust. From the heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.

The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You shall go out one way against them and flee seven ways before them." So you're not going to win in any war. "'You shall become troublesome to all the kingdoms of the earth. Everyone's gonna hate you. Your carcasses shall be food for all the birds of the air

and the beasts of the earth, and no one shall frighten them away. The Lord will strike you with all the boils of Egypt, with tumors, with the scab, with the itch, from which you cannot be healed. madness and blindness and confusion of heart. Ooh, madness, blindness, confusion of heart. You shall grope at noonday as a blind man gropes in

darkness. You shall not prosper in your ways. You shall only be oppressed and plundered continually and no one shall save you. We haven't gotten to the relevant one here yet, although all this is true in ways already. You shall betroth a wife, but another man shall lie with her. You shall build a house, but you shall not dwell in it. You shall plant a vineyard, but shall not gather its grapes.

Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you shall not eat of it. See, it's unjust, just unjust, horrible things. Your donkey shall be violently taken away from before you and shall not be restored to you. Your sheep shall be given to your enemies and you shall have no one to rescue them. Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people and your eyes shall look and fall, fail with longing

for them all day long. And there shall be no strength in your hand. A nation whom you have not known shall eat the fruit of your land and the produce of your labor and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually." Think of the Israelites, like, all right we get it, we'll obey. So you shall be driven mad, they didn't by the way, you should be driven mad because of the sight which your eyes see. The Lord will strike you in the knees and on the legs with severe boils which cannot be healed and from the sole of your foot to the top of your head." We're getting closer.

"'The Lord will bring you and the king whom you set over you to a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known and there you shall serve other gods, wood and stone, and you shall become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword among all nations where the Lord will drive you an astonishment is like Like confusion more more like the confusion of the mind You shall carry much seed out of the field but gather little in it for the locusts shall consume it

You shall plant vineyards and tend them But you shall neither drink of that wine nor gather the grapes for the worm shall eat them You shall have olive trees throughout all your territory, but you shall not anoint yourself with the oil, for your olives shall drop off. You shall beget sons and daughters, but they shall not be yours, for they shall go into captivity. Locusts shall consume all your trees and the produce of your land." All right, here we go. You ready? The alien...

Congratulations if you made it this far through Deuteronomy 28. The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you and you shall come down lower and lower. He shall lend to you but you shall not lend to him. Why not? Because he's wealthier, he's richer, he has all the power. He shall be the head. You shall be the tail. Moreover, all these curses shall come upon you and pursue and overtake you until you are destroyed because you did not obey the voice of

the Lord, your God to keep his commandments and his statutes, which he commanded you.

Okay.

So what, what do we do with this? Well practically we do what John Nolte on the radio today said, which is Trump just needs to follow the law. Follow the law and he'll be fine. Don't worry about the optics of things from your perspective. Just do what is right and the law is correct.

And as Trump said, if they spit, we hit. So if they cross a line of assault, then you arrest them and that's it. Just follow the law and you'll be fine. Here politically. Spiritually this is a curse upon our nation. Is to have a nation where foreigners come in and overtake us.

And don't obey the laws.

And it's okay to be a nation that has laws and to enforce those laws. Also know spiritually that we are foreigners in this world. And we have to obey God's law when we're here too.

And if you don't, among many curses that God will reign upon us is to be overtaken by the alien, not as an invading army, but the alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher. By the way, that's only half of Deuteronomy 28. There's a whole bunch more curses to go. You should read all of them, but I just wanted to build to that one because as you read, and one of them is you're gonna eat your babies and that ended up happening. We've talked about that before in this podcast. There's a siege of Jerusalem and mothers ate their

children in desperation, cannibalism. This is among the curses. So among these horrible curses, this is one of them. The alien among you shall rise higher and higher above you. Now I'll just end on a political point, I usually don't, but it's amazing that Mexicans are allowed to love Mexico. They can love it, love, love, love, love,

wave the Mexican flag on top of a burning car in our country, they can love it. The chair of America's 250 can talk about mi gente, mi familia, la raza, and all that. They can love Mexico. They don't want to be there obviously, but they can love it. And I love America. And I want it to be America again. And I'm not gonna pretend or act like I'm the bad guy for to be America again. And I'm not gonna pretend or act like I'm the bad guy for wanting that anymore. MikeSlater.Locals.com. Transcript commercial free on the website Mike Slater, dot Locals, dot com.

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June 06, 2025

The Trump and Elon Battle and The Bible

Politics By Faith, June 6, 2025

The Trump and Elon Battle and The Bible There is trouble in paradise, it seems. The Bible has advice for them and all of us.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thank you very much for being here. So we're going to talk about this Elon Trump battle that's going on. It's going to change minute to minute. So let's just get caught up here and then we'll bring it to the Bible here. Where to start? Let's just start here. Elon Musk doesn't like the big beautiful bill because it doesn't cut enough spending. And he's right about that,

doesn't cut nearly enough spending. Trump, his argument is we're dealing with the realities on the ground here with the Congress that we have. And in this one big beautiful bill are all these things that we would never get done otherwise, all these campaign promises that we're actually delivering on

and we should pass it for all those reasons. And Elon says, it doesn't cut enough spending. And there is no country if we keep going down this road of debts, of deficits and debt. So Elon wrote, so Trump said in this, in the Oval Office, he was with the Chancellor from Germany

and he was asked about it. And he said that Elon doesn't support this bill because they take out the subsidies for electric vehicles. So Elon wrote on Twitter, I'm going to try to do this best I can real time like as this happened over an hour period on Twitter yesterday, Elon said, whatever, keep the electric vehicle solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil and gas subsidies are touched, very unfair, but ditch the mountain of disgusting pork in the bill.

In the entire history of civilization, there's never been legislation that is both big and beautiful. Everyone knows this. Either you get a big and ugly bill or a slim and beautiful bill.

Slim and beautiful is the way. As I'm reading that, I am remembering that there's another Elon tweet that I probably should have started with. Here it is. This was two days ago.

Elon said, I can't keep it in anymore. He said, I'm sorry, I can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. He said, shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong.

You know it. So that was the start of it. That was two days ago. Okay. So then Trump responded. Then Elon gave the response.

I just gave you, okay. Then Elon said, without me, Trump would have lost the election. "'Dems would control the house "'and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate. "'Such ingratitude.'" Then Elon said,

"'The easiest way to save money in our budget, "'billions and billions of dollars, "'is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies "'and contracts. "'I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. He later said, Elon was wearing thin. I asked him to leave.

I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy electric cars that nobody else wanted. That he knew for months I was gonna do and he just went crazy. Elon then responded, time to drop the really big bomb. Trump is in the Epstein files.

That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT. Trump then said, I don't mind Elon turning against me, but he should have done so months ago. This is one of the greatest bills ever presented to Congress and he gives all the reasons why. Then Elon said that Trump should be impeached and JD Vance should replace him.

Then he said the Trump tariffs will cause a recession in the second half of this year. Okay. That's the latest as of now. So you got the back and forth. Super. I don't know how much we should talk about Elon here. Let me just, and I've said all these things at different points, but I'll put them all together here. When it comes to cutting spending and doge, I've all in, it's incredible, amazing, it's total support of Elon.

When it comes to creating, innovating and inventing and going to space and running these companies, no one's like him, he's brilliant and genius and the way he runs his companies with efficiencies he does and all the companies he runs, it's remarkable and he's the great inventor of our era. He also is not a Christian at all and you see it in many different ways that he

has a very unbiblical worldview. And he doesn't claim to be a Christian so it's fine but and you can look at it with his fathering. It's an abomination what he's doing with these kids. He just he has this belief that we don't have enough people in the world and we're not making enough kids. I used to agree with this I used to make that argument but I'm kind of thinking maybe that's not entirely true. I don't know. I got to think more about that, but he thinks there needs to be more people in the world.

He's very much taking it upon himself and he just fathers children and then abandons them. And he has a ton of money. So he got plenty of money. They're taking care of. He's like a compound in Texas that they all like live in

or I don't know, but it's just weird. He's not a father. He's not a proper father. One of his kids, and this is one of the reasons why he supported Trump, one of his kids that he abandoned is transgender. And clearly this is a result of dad abandoning this child. And this boy, now he sees a girl and that's all Elon's fault. So he's a terrible dad.

Just by, listen, if an NFL player did this, and many of them do, I'd be critical of him. And I have been, and Elon's the same thing. Also, he has this Neuralink company that puts computer chips in people's brains. I hope that thing fails.

So I wish only the worst on that company because where that is going to lead and no one seems to care at all when everyone just puts a computer chip in their brain. And Elon, if the great military advice of the world is you wanna gain the high ground,

Elon with all of his satellites is the owner of the high ground. He has the ultimate high ground. And I don't know how wise that is, especially with someone who has a worldview that is not good and very antithetical to the Bible.

That's for sure.

Again, Doge, efficiency, government waste, total agreement. Everything else, nope. Not in any way. Now, is it better if these two are getting along and agreeing on Government getting rid of government waste I think so maybe not I mean we'll see how things pan out Is this the end of MAGA? No, this is the end of the world. No, we told the story this morning of

Ben Frank, excuse me, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson and they were best friends best friends they wrote the Declaration of Independence together Adam Jefferson wrote it, but Adams consulted a lot. And they were great fellow patriots. And then they hated each other. And they hated each other their whole lives. And at the end of their life, they died on the same day.

Happened to be the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Isn't that incredible? July 4th, 1826, they both died on the same day, and when Adams died, his final words were, Thomas Jefferson survives. And he did not know that Thomas Jefferson

died just a couple hours earlier. What is that story? So we'd like to look back and think, oh, they were best friends. They weren't, they hated each other. They didn't start that way.

But we could still look back on him and be like, Oh, they were awesome. Thomas Jefferson was awesome. And it was Thomas Jefferson wanted a small limited government with states rights. And John Adams wanted a larger central government. And they're still both amazing patriots and we can love them for the great things that each of them did. And we do the same thing with Elon and Trump moving forward.

None of that ever changes. And MAG is not going anywhere. And Trump is the CEO and Elon was an employee and now he's not anymore. And that's that. So I think it's going to be okay and get alpha males going at it and it's not a big deal. Now we got some Bible lessons to learn from this. You have two people here who are not Christians and we see what happens when that is the case. I want to talk about gossip and how to confront people.

First on the gossip Elon said that Trump's pedophile. That's what that was with the always in the Epstein files Now I don't think it's true Maybe he's mentioned there once because he was Jeffrey Epstein was a member of Mar-a-Lago for a while before Trump kicked him out but I can't believe that Trump was in the Epstein files and the Democrats just sat on

that like they hid that from the American people. The Democrats did? I don't think so. So this is, at best, gossip. Leviticus 19 says, you shall not go about as a tail bearer among your people. What's a tail bearer among your people. What's a tail bearer?

Adam Clark, Bible commentaries in the 1790s, he says, the person who, a tail bearer is the person who travels about dealing in scandal and calumny. Calumny is making false defamation statements about someone, slander, slander, calumny, slander. Getting the secrets of every person and family and retelling them wherever he goes. A more despicable character exists.

Not such a person is a pest to society and should be exiled from the inhabitations from the habitations of man. Do not be a tailbearer among your people. I spread gossip the other day. Actually, let me show this first. I was talking to a friend the other day and they were just talking about how much

they're working on not gossiping. And they have a conviction against gossip, as we all should. I gossiped the other day and it felt so wrong, so, oh, it was disgusting. I told my wife about someone who I heard from someone else cheated on their wife and I told her,

I felt so dirty about it. It was weird, because I heard it a while ago and I was like, ah, I don't know, I can't tell. And then it just came out, it was like ridiculous. It was like so disgraceful. And I felt so dirty because I have no idea if it's even true.

But it made my wife's impression of this person bad and for what? What was the point of that? I don't even know what happened. I just added to the net negative impression of this other person. I feel awful about it. So I mean, all I can do is vow to never do that again.

Just keep it to yourself. Don't be a tail bearer, God says. And it's all throughout the Bible. Proverbs 20, 19, a gossip betrays a confidence, so avoid anyone who talks too much. Proverbs 11, 13, a gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy person keeps a secret. So don't gossip.

And just a great overall one, Ephesians 4.29, do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs that it may also benefit those who listen. Do not put people on blast on Twitter. It's not that, Bob didn't say that exactly, but that's, that's the idea. Now what about confronting people? Christians should confront people differently

than people in the world. Matthew 18, moreover, if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, and if you guys come to an agreement here, then you've gained your brother. So if someone sins against you, you have two options.

You either drop it, move on, or if you can't do that, you go to them. Not Twitter. Go to them. Charles Spurgeon, he said, we must not let trespass rankle in our bosom. So if someone sends against you and it's like eating away at you, that's not, don't do that.

But he said, nor, I mean, like don't keep it in, if you can't move on, nor may we go and publish the matter abroad. But also don't go tell it ever. We must seek out the offender and tell him, him, his fault as if he were not aware of it as perhaps he may not be that happens a lot of time to like oh hey you said this like what I didn't oh my gosh I'm so sorry and and you'll find a brother meaning the matter gets cleared up

hopefully and brings you together that the irony is not lost that Trump and Elon their division here is over a bill called reconciliation so so maybe one maybe if they, they're supposed to have a phone call today, so maybe they will reconcile. There will be reconciliation over reconciliation.

But if you have this one-on-one conversation with a person, you clear things up, you gain a brother. Also, you've prevented, or you're not sinning by gossiping all over town. So got lots of wins here. But if he will not hear,

take with you one or two more that by the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word may be established. And if he refuses to hear then tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

Just wise advice. Don't call people pedophiles on Twitter. It's not the most biblical course of action. Now Trump and Elon are different, but we should take advice from the Bible and do what the Bible says. Don't gossip, and if you have a problem with someone, go confront them directly, ending

Don't gossip, and if you have a problem with someone, go confront them directly, ending love. And if you have a problem with someone, go confront them directly and do more.

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June 05, 2025

Ben Franklin and The Big Beautiful Bill

Politics By Faith, June 5, 2025

Can we be surprised that Congress wasted money when frugality among We The People is no longer a virtue?

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thank you so much for being here. Yesterday we talked about Pride Month and we talked about lack of self-control and read some proverbs about pride and about sexual morality and self-control and lust and watching out for the adulterous woman. Today I want to talk about another aspect of self-control and that is with money.

Now this is a perfect timing because of the debate going back and forth about the one big beautiful bill. So the very short of it is this bill passed the house barely and now it's in the Senate and the senators, there's enough senators that are saying this thing stinks, it needs to cut way, way, way more spending. People like Rand Paul saying, I'm not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling by $5 trillion. That's crazy. We're supposed to be the people against

raising the debt ceiling and against spending money we don't have. That's nuts. So there's a debate going back and forth and I hope, because that's all I can do right now is, and just have a good attitude, that it will result in a better bill. But they have three weeks to get this done, until the 4th of July, so I guess maybe a little less than four weeks to get this done and see what they can pull together. But now we also got a lot of Elon coming out and saying some very dramatic things against

Trump and now Trump is, ah, it's a whole thing. I don't wanna focus on that. I wanna focus on us. Made the argument this morning that spending is a moral issue. As Andrew Breitbart said, politics is downstream of culture.

And so culture comes first. What is culture? Culture is just a collection of people that have shared values and virtues. We have the Congress that I believe best reflects we the people. We are a people for the most part, who do not have a biblical view of work or spending. And therefore we have a government that reflects that.

Ben Franklin said, rather go to bed without dinner than to rise in debt. He said if you know how to spend less than you get you have the philosopher's stone. Our Congress does not have the philosopher's stone but either do the American people in their own lives at this point. We have more debt now than ever before. I mean, personal debt, like people have more debt. So how can we be a people that have more debt than ever before? And be like, oh, congress can't believe you have so much debt. That's really, really

unacceptable. Like, what did you think? Politics is downstream of culture.

It is a sin to be a sluggard.

It is a sin to be a profligate, waster, spender, waster of money, materialism. All these things are sinful. So ideally, you have a culture that does the opposite of these things are sinful. So ideally you have a culture that does the opposite of these things and calls them virtues. Okay, well the opposite of being a sluggard is being a hard worker.

The opposite of being wasteful is being frugal. So we had a culture that, and we have one, the opposite of being irresponsible is being responsible, personal responsibility. So we had a culture that, and we have one of the opposite of being irresponsible is being responsible, personal responsibility. So we had a culture that built up these three things. Like think about it.

Like, all right. So the Bible says you shouldn't be a sluggard, which means that it's people's natural instinct to be a sluggard, which means it takes a lot of effort to not be a sluggard. That effort we call virtue, that concerted, directed, intentional effort we call virtue. Effort to be something that one is naturally not, right? To do the opposite of sin, it's virtue. So we had a culture for a long time that celebrated the opposite of those sins. We

had a culture for a long time that celebrated virtues. Makes sense. Here's a list of sins. What are the opposite of those things? Great. Let's do those. Let's honor those. Let's celebrate those. Let's value those. And then we'll have better lives and better families and a stronger country.

We haven't done that in a long time on our personal lives, on a personal level, on an individual level. We are now a culture of laziness. We're a culture of no responsibility, we're a culture of materialism, we're a culture of wasting money and going into debt and that is reflected in Congress. So it's hard to say, oh Congress are wasting so

much, spending so much money, we don't have when the American people are billions of dollars in debt. Let me look this up here. Credit card debt. We go again, it's a podcast later, you can press pause. I thought I was gonna say tens of billions. And I was like, man, it's not that much.

The American people currently hold $1.18 trillion in credit card debt. 1.1 trillion. And we're we're like Congress how dare you be 37 trillion in it. What did you think? New Jersey has an average balance of $10,000 per cardholder. Come on. This is a reflection of America. Congress is. So if we want to fix Congress it's not gonna happen by like raving about it. It's

gonna happen by changing the American people in our culture first. Okay, before we get to the Bible, I wanna share what I did again this morning because it's so good. It's Ben Franklin.

Ben Franklin wrote a wonderful work of art called The Way to Wealth, 1758. And he broke it down into three points. It's a beautiful story where there's these guys complaining about taxes outside of a business, and then this old man comes up,

this wise old man comes up and just starts giving advice. And it's beautiful. Let me cut to the point here. He has three sections, one on industry, hard work, one on responsibility, not being dependent on other people, and one on being frugal.

Let's jump right to the frugal one. Actually, I take that back. Let me share this one first on being industrious. He says, industry need not wish, is the wise man, as poor Richard says, and he that lives upon hope will die fasting. There are no gains without pains.

That was my teacher when I was like 12. Poor Richard says at the working man's house, hunger looks in, but dares not enter. Diligence is the mother of good luck,

and God gives all things to industry.

Then plow deep while sluggards sleep, and you shall have corn to sell and to keep. Work while it's called today, for you know not how much you will be hindered tomorrow. One today is worth two tomorrows. If you were a servant, would you not be ashamed that a good master should catch you idle? Marr, you then, your own master, be ashamed to catch yourself idle.

When there is much to be done for yourself, your family, your country, be up by the peep of day. Let not the sun look down and say say in glorious here he lies. That's like beautiful, like unbelievably awesome American Ben Franklin stuff right there. All right. Now the saving. So much for industry, my friends, and attention to one's own business,

personal responsibility and other section of this letter. But to the but to these, we must add frugality. If we would make our industry more certainly successful. The Indies have not made Spain rich because her outages are greater than her incomes. Away then with your expensive follies. You may think that perhaps a little tea or a little punch now and then, a diet a little more costly, clothes a little finer, and a little entertainment now and then. Diet a little more costly, clothes a little finer,

and a little entertainment now and then can be no great matter. But remember what poor Richard says, many a little makes a nickel. Nickel, or for a lot. So many a little makes a lot.

And farther, beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship. Here you are, all get together at this venue of fineries and knickknacks. You call them goods, but if you do not take care, they will prove evils to some of you. Remember what poor Richard says, Buy what thou hast no need of, and before long thou shalt sell thy necessaries.

That's just perfect. Perfect, we are so broke in government, in our country, we're so broke from all the wasteful spending. Well, listen, it goes both ways. But to be real, on an individual level,

we spend so much money on things we don't need, and then when an important expense comes up, we don't need. And then when an important expense comes up, we don't have the money. Broke, can't afford it, why not? And at the federal level, it's the same thing. Oh, can't afford to educate our kids, just we have no more money.

Like what, why not? Wow, we just blew it all over here. They won't admit that, but that's what it is. We had a guy, wrote me a note, So you just work in the military and I said like the Air Force or whoever will ask for a billion dollars And the first thing they do is spend it on a golf course And then they come back like oh we need more money. We don't have enough money for an airplane hanger and a runway We're out. We're out of money. What would you spend it on?

You know

More and more of our budget today is just interest of the debt. Money we can't spend on the things we need. The waste is killing us. We are drowning. We are drowning in the shiny stuff. Here's what Ben Franklin said, these are not the necessaries of life.

They can scarcely be called the conveniences and yet only because they look pretty, how many want to have them? The artificial wants of mankind thus become more numerous than the natural, meaning the important things." Now here's a little bit that I did not share on the radio today because I still feel bad about, I think it was like Monday's episode, yeah Monday because of the Swim Meet, I had to go early, it was a very short episode. So we'll go a little longer. He talks about borrowing money to pay for things.

He says, but what madness must it be to run a debt for these superfluities? Superfluities, superfluities, superfluities. We are offered by terms of this store, six months credit. And that perhaps has induced some of us to attend it because we cannot spare the ready money and hope now to be fine without it.

But ah, think what you do when you run in debt. You give to another power over your liberty. If you cannot pay at the time, you will be ashamed to see your creditor. You will be in fear when you speak to him. You will make poor pitiful sneaking excuses

and by degrees come to lose your veracity and sink into base downright lying. For as poor Richard says, the second vice is lying, the first is running a debt. And again to the same purpose, lying rides upon debts back. Whereas a freeborn Englishman, again this is 1758, a freeborn Englishman ought not to be ashamed or afraid to see or speak to any man living, but poverty often deprives a man of all spirit and virtue.

It is hard for an empty bag to stand upright, as poor Richard truly says. Now my favorite part of this, oh, I have two favorite parts of this letter. Let me do the Christian one first. Ben Franklin says, he talks about hard work, talks about personal responsibility, frugality,

all these virtues. And he ends with this, this doctrine, my friends is reason and wisdom. But after all, in the end, do not depend too much upon your own industry and frugality and prudence. That's the word I've been looking for. Prudence instead of personal responsibility. Same idea. Though excellent things, like these are great. Industry, frugality, prudence are great.

For they may all be blasted without the blessing of heaven. And therefore ask that blessing humbly and be not uncharitable to those that at present seem to want it but comfort and help them. Remember Job suffered and was afterwards prosperous." Ben Franklin. Ben Franklin, our atheist founding father. Here's my other favorite part of this letter, of this story. So again there's a bunch of people outside of the store about to go buy stuff and they're complaining about taxes.

And the first part of the letter, this old man comes up and he's like, listen, you guys complain about your taxes, but you waste even more being with your laziness, you waste even more with your silliness, your foolishness, your bad decisions.

Waste way more than you pay in taxes. the taxes were like 10% not 50%. So I don't know, poor Richard would have a different take today, but the old man comes and he gives this great speech to these people and here's the end of the letter. Thus the old gentleman ended his harangue. The people heard it and approved the doctrine and immediately practiced the contrary. For the store opened and they began to buy extravagantly,

notwithstanding all his cautions. It didn't matter. Everyone agreed with it. Everyone knew it was the right thing. Everything knew this guy was right. And they immediately did the exact opposite. And Ben Franklin says, I resolved to be the better for having heard this story. And though I had at first determined to buy stuff for a new coat, I went away resolved to wear my old one a little longer. Reader, if thou will do the same, thy profit will

be as great as mine." We lack the moral and biblical understanding of money and of hard work and frugality and prudence. So of course, our elected representatives will lack those virtues as well. And it's even harder for them to have those virtues because they don't feel the consequences of them wasting money, our money.

Right, at least when you, if someone doesn't work hard and waste their money, they feel the consequences of it. When Congress doesn't work hard and waste their money, waste our money, then they get reelected. So they even even grew. We need to have so much of this virtue. It's such an abundance of it that the people we elect can even overcome the

inherent structures that make it even harder for someone to be industrious and frugal. We have a long way to go for that to happen. Let me just wrap up with a couple scriptures here, a couple Proverbs. First on being a sluggard, just because I love that word. Proverbs 6, go to the ant you sluggard, consider its ways and be wise. How long will you lie there you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? Proverbs 34 for the soul of the sluggard craves and gets nothing,

but the soul of the diligent is richly supplied. Proverbs 19, 24, a sluggard buries his hand in his dish. He will not even bring it back to his mouth. I was like, can't even can't be like, it's so lazy. I can't even put the fork to my face. Proverbs 26, 14 14 as a door turns on its hinges so does the sluggard on the bed. It's back and forth, back and forth. Won't even get up. Proverbs 21 20 a wise man on money, a wise man saves for the future, but a foolish man spends whatever he gets and a foolish government spends two trillion dollars more than they steal from the American people. from the American people. Mike Slater dot Locals dot com.

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