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Charlie Kirk: How To Save America
Politics By Faith, September 19, 2025
September 19, 2025

I KNOW how to save this country. We need to go back to what our founders relied on to build this country.

Welcome to politics by faith. Thank you for being here. We had a wonderful caller today who made the point that the left is all about inequality, inequality about everything, right? All about the oppressed and the oppressors and all that. The caller made the point that the truth is we're all born on the exact same level playing field, a total depraved sinner in need of salvation from Jesus Christ. The left, the devil, has intentionally distracted us for a long time with all these other playing fields that don't matter. 

The only playing field that matters is the one that we're all the exact same on, no matter how much money you're born on or what your skin color is or whatever. And this salvation is available to everyone, no matter how little money you have or what your skin color is. If you took the piece of someone who's in all the oppressed groups, but is saved, it's so much greater than someone who maybe is in all the oppressor privileged groups who's not saved and will spend eternity in hell. But we start equal. I pray so many people are saved from the assassination of the Christian martyr Charlie Kirk, because that's what martyrdom is. And Sunday at this memorial service, it's going to be a wonderful moment. 

Please pray for all the speakers. I'm praying especially for his pastor. He has a chance to preach the gospel like maybe most people have never heard before. Fightforcharlie . com for more information, but it's one o 'clock Eastern on Sunday. I want to share here the segment we did in the third hour of the radio show today on SiriusXM Patreon about how we're a Christian nation and about how Christianity is the foundation of everything good. 

And when we got away from the foundation, of course the house crumbled. So if we want to build the house back, we need to go back to the foundation and the foundation isn't the constitution. It's before that. The constitution was built on top of the foundation, right? We need to go even deeper than the constitution. Where'd the constitution come from? 

Keep digging. Whenever there's a, let's say a church shooting or something, the left focuses on the gun, the object, because they're materialists. Many conservatives focus on the brain because they want to get to the root. It's a noble effort. I like to focus on the soul. That's the root of everything. 

Similarly here, where a lot of commentators focus on the policy. And then for a while now, we've had good conservatives focus on culture to save our country, right? People thought that policy would save our country. And then people are like, Oh, we need culture actually is what saves our country. I believe we can go even deeper. I believe we need to focus on the Bible. 

And I know that's true. because it's what the founders did build this country. Here's part of our show from this morning. 

Two of Charlie's goals. He said, you know, he wanted to bring people back to Christ and bring people back to church and back to biblical values. And he wanted to keep the mega coalition together and expand it and expand it. And the question is how you do that. And the answer is you focus on the first and the second is a by -product. Okay. 

The answer is that as Matt says, you have to unite around something and yeah, we can unite. in the short term around the fact that there are a bunch of people who hate our guts and want to murder us, which of course is true. But long -term unity, big movement change, which is what Charlie was really trying to drive and why he wants to talk to people who disagree, is about building around those core values. 

And so the long -term vision, yeah, we'll have our petty squabbles, and yeah, some of those squabbles will be more than petty, but the long -term vision has to be built around those original biblical conservative values that charlie stood for things like the bible things like free markets things like family all those things i think charlie stood for you gotta build the coalition around values we can't build it around the man but we can build it around the values that he left behind that he spent his entire life fighting for we couldn't be someone wrote this on twitter uh... by the way the unity is the gospel that's what Even Ben Shapiro was talking about the biblical values. I saw someone on Twitter, they said, as a Dawkins era atheist, I underestimated Christianity's role as a civilizational operating system. I took its moral foundations for granted, assuming that they were so self -evident that all humans would reach them once basic needs were met. At the very least, think of, at the very least, think of Christianity as a civilizational operating system. Someone posted a meme of Homer Simpson, uh, climbing Mount Everest and he's just in his sleeping bag. He's laying down in his sleeping bag on a sled and there's some Sherpas pulling them up the, up the mountain. 

And someone wrote the meme on Homer Simpson, secular Western ethics, like your dark Dawkins era, atheist, secular Western ethics. Don't murder something that basic don't murder. And then, but that, that ethic system is being pulled up by these sherpas on a rope by 2 ,000 years of Christian morality and then Homer Simpson wakes up and he says wow look how far I climbed and I'm not even tired yeah that 2 ,000 years of Christian reality did a lot of work you know that many classical music composers wrote glory be to God on the top of their manuscripts on the top of their music manuscripts like the handwritten notes of every piece of every note of every instrument in the orchestra. They would write Glory be to God. I heard that from Charlie Kirk. 

I heard Charlie Kirk said that the other day. I didn't know that. 

I looked it up. 

It's true. I went down a whole rabbit hole on it. So one of my favorite composers is Bach. This is a song. It's called Jesus Joy of Man's Desiring. You've heard this before. 

Jesus Joy of Man's Desiring. Bach at the top of his manuscripts would write SDG, Soli Deo Gloria. solely, alone, deo, God, gloria, the glory, to God alone, the glory. Before he started a piece of music, he would write at the top, J . J. , Jesu, Jova, Jesus, help me. 

When he would start, he would write, Jesus, help me. When he ended his pieces, he would write, I . N . J. , in nomine Jesu, in the name of Jesus. masterpieces were a prayer. They were a prayer. Jesus helped me. Then he wrote his music, and he wrote, in the name of Jesus and to the glory of God alone. He said, Bach said, music's only purpose should be for the glory of God and the recreation of the human spirit. And I pronounce recreation wrong because I've made this point on purpose, because we make this point a lot that there's a difference between leisure and recreation. Leisure is more like laziness. Recreation literally means recreation. You recreate. And Bach is saying that music purpose is to recreate the human spirit. How come we've never heard anything about Beethoven's faith? Everyone's heard about Beethoven, but no one's ever heard about Beethoven's faith. Beethoven was a contemporary of our founding father. He was born in 1770. It wasn't that long ago. But he wrote in 1801 that God is nearer to me. than others in my art, so I will walk fearlessly with him." Beethoven 

Beethoven said, don't only practice your art, but force your way into its secrets. For it and knowledge can rise men to the divine. This ties into what we talked about earlier with Michelangelo. And this is what Paul said. So whatever you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all to the glory of God. Beethoven did. 

Haydn, never was I so devout as when I composed the creation. Haydn said, I knelt down each day to pray to God to give me strength for my work. When I was working on The Creation, I felt so impregnated with divine certainty that before sitting down to the piano, I would quietly and confidently pray to God to grant me the talent that was needed to praise him worthily. Haydn didn't pray to God to give him the talent that was needed for him to make a great piece of music so he could make a lot of money and fame. It was to give me the talent necessary to make a piece of music that can glorify you appropriately. Mozart said, God is ever before my eyes. 

I realize his omnipotence, and I fear his anger. I fear his anger. Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. But I also recognize his love, his compassion, and his tenderness towards his creatures. That was Mozart. You never hear about that. 

Never in my whole life have I ever heard about the classical composers and their dedication to the Christian faith. I'll end with Brahms. These guys weren't that long ago. Brahms was born in 1833. Brahms said, you see, the powers from which all truly great composers like Mozart, Schubert, Bach, and Beethoven drew their inspiration is the same power that enabled Jesus to do his miracles. I know several young composers who are atheists. 

I've read their scores, and I assure you that they are doomed to speedy oblivion because they are utterly lacking in inspiration. Their works are purely cerebral. But the great Nazarene, Jesus, knew that law also. And he proclaimed it in John 15, four, the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine. So atheists will never, excuse me, atheists. No, excuse me. 

No atheist has ever been or ever will be a great composer said Brahms said, no, no atheist has ever been or ever will be a great composer. This is why we're told we've been told that classical music is stupid or boring. It's the same reason that we were told that our founding fathers were deists and that America is not a great nation. Because if people knew the truth, it would lead to revival. It's all about keeping people in the dark. It's about keeping people in the dark. 

It's about keeping, and if there's anyone who's on the fence of feeling like Christianity is silly or whatever, it's like, oh yeah, no, like scientists. you're a dumb idiot. If you think creation, it's like what every single cultural force is to convince you to stay in the dark and to convince Christians that you're isolated. And September 10th ended that it ended it. And Charlie Kirk, if I may on classical music, he said, we do not listen to classical music enough in the West. Go back to the music that built our civilization. 

I would flip it. I would flip it. I'd say it's the principles of the West that built classical music, but either way, it's the demise of the West. that has resulted in the slop music that we have today. That's catchy, but that's it. If you told me a couple of weeks ago, let alone a couple of years ago, that the vice president of the United States. 

Okay. So you want to come at me like, ah, Slater, enough with the Christian stuff. Okay. I'm just telling you what time it is. 

Okay. That's all. 

I'm just telling you what time it is. 

If you told me that the vice president of the United States would be reciting the Nicene Creed while hosting one of the top podcasts in the world from the white house. Don't think I would have believed you. Now, the most important truth Charlie told is this, that long ago a man begotten, not made, came down from heaven and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary and became man. For our sake, he was crucified under Pontius Pilate and suffered death and was buried and rose again on the third day. Charlie believed, as I do, that all the truth he told flowed from that fundamental principle. I'm just telling. 

I'm telling you what time it is. I'm just telling you. what country this is today. Earlier in the week we played a six -minute clip. It's my favorite Charlie Kirk clip. Six -minute clip where he talks about how we're obviously a Christian nation. We're obviously founded as a Christian nation. 

Twelve of the thirteen colonies had in their state constitutions a declaration of faith. If you wanted to hold a win an elected office or hold a appointed office. You needed to declare that Jesus Christ was Lord and you had to declare that the Holy Scriptures were written by God. That was 12 of the 13 colony constitutions. To serve in any elected office, you had to declare that Jesus was Lord. And now people want to come in and be like, I don't think we were a Christian nation. 

We're a bunch of deists. Stupidest, stupidest lie ever told. I want to play one part of this. 

Actually, I want to play two parts. But two parts, it's six minutes. I'm going to play the whole six minutes again. Uh, it's on my Twitter. It's like a radio, but let me just play these two. They say that God was only mentioned four times in the declaration of independence. 

Well, that's a big deal. Okay. Laws of nature and nature's God. The last paragraph of the declaration reads as a prayer. It says, we appeal to the Supreme judge of the universe. Who's the judge of the universe. 

Jesus Christ, as it says in revelation that Jesus will judge the earth on his throne. So in the declaration, they were praying to Christ, our Lord. as a prayer very specifically. Thirdly, as I said on stage yesterday, Deuteronomy was by far the most quoted book, religious or non -religious, in the time of the founding when they were putting together the Constitution. More than John Locke, more than Montesquieu, more than Blackstone. So the Book of Deuteronomy, which talked about laws, customs, traditions. 

It was Moses' farewell address as he's about to say goodbye. Say, hey, good luck in Canaan, guys. Here's how you should set up your form of government. But Finally, and most importantly, let's look at actually what the founders said. John Adams famously said, 

the Constitution was only written for a moral and religious people. It was wholly inadequate for the people of any other. The body politic of America was so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and structure of government was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord. 

One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but we have a Christian form of government, and they're incompatible. 

So you cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population. So finally, finally we got the right diagnosis. So on Deuteronomy, uh, he's right. Deuteronomy appears in the writings of our founding fathers appears twice as often as John Locke. Why? Deuteronomy is about Moses, the pilgrims and the Puritans and our founding grandfathers believed that they were on, that they were engaging in a second great Exodus through the wilderness into the promised land. 

And Deuteronomy is also a book about how the Israelites are to set up a new nation, a new nation. The founders were also a bit curious. How should we start a new nation? We both fled a tyrant. We both crossed the Red Sea. We call it the Atlantic Ocean. 

We both met the Philistines and Moabites. We call them the natives. We're reliving the book of Deuteronomy in America. They knew it. There was a sermon that was delivered by a guy in Massachusetts, 1755. His name was Samuel Langdon. 

He was not just a guy. He was the president of Harvard at the time. And he was also on New Hampshire's constitutional ratifying convention. So he was engaged. He said the Jewish government, according to the original constitution, which was divinely established, Deuteronomy, was a perfect republic. The civil polity of Israel is doubtless an excellent general model. 

At least some principle laws and orders of it may be copied to great advantage in more modern establishments. " Roger Sherman, he was a part of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. He said, the civil polity of the Hebrews was planned by divine wisdom and is a commendable exemplar of our civil government. Isn't that amazing? Deuteronomy. Our founders also believed that the Bible was a source of what good citizenship means. 

Not only good systems of government, but a good citizen. Are you with me on the Homer Simpson meme? The Sherpa, like carrying him, like, like the atheists just like got Sherpa'd up the top of Mount Everest. And they're like, Oh, that was easy. I'm amazing. God doesn't exist. 

Like, Oh man, you got no clue. Deuteronomy 28. If you fully obey the Lord, this is, this is, so this is what our founding fathers new citizenship entailed. If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all of his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. All these blessings will come to you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God. You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country. 

And then second part of Deuteronomy 28 are all the curses for disobedience. Here's a good one, Exodus 18 21. Moreover, look for able men from all the people, men who fear God, who are trustworthy and hate a bribe and place such men over the people. That's why John Adams knew that this is only possible with a moral and religious people. Men who feared God. 2 Samuel 23. 

This is the final words of David. I'm not going to read the whole thing. 2 Samuel 23. Go read the final words of David. And then a description of David's mighty men. And our founders knew that. 

They knew it in their bones. And they dedicated themselves to being. And the reason, and I said this earlier about Charlie Kirk, I talked to Charlie Kirk, the Turning Point USA faith director yesterday, and he said, Charlie Kirk was first and foremost a Christian, and that informed his love of country, that informed his love of all these other things that he then stood for. But Christian first, and the reason our founding fathers could speak so passionately about liberty was because they were Christian. They knew Galatians 5 .21, where they said, Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath set us free. Liberty. 

They knew liberty because they knew Jesus. I want to do a quick aside, but I don't have time. I'll do the very short of it. Someone sent me a note the other day about three professors at Syracuse University, where I grew up, who sent horrific messages about Charlie Kirk's assassination, celebrating it. These three professors work at the Maxwell School for Citizenship. And here they are celebrating the death of a young man who was engaging in debate in the public square. 

And these are professors at the School of Citizenship. They have no idea what citizenship means. The rot is so... So here's my conclusion of this point. And then I'll get to the real clip of Charlie Kirk I wanted to play. Virtue and morality are necessary for free Republican government. 

Small, small, lowercase r. Okay, so virtue and morality are necessary for a free government. 

Religion is necessary for virtue and morality. Religion, therefore, is necessary for a Republican government. Our founders knew that. We've abandoned it. we wonder why things are off the rails. Here's the clip I wanted to play, Charlie. 

That's just a surface -level belief. So then they'll go to the First Amendment, which has two parts of the First Amendment which get conflated. First of all, separation of church and state is not in the U . S. Constitution. That is a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1807 to the Danbury Baptist Convention in Massachusetts, assuring them that the government would not come after the church. 

Okay, which is the opposite of what they would say. 

However, that was then resurrected by the Warren Court and the Burger Court in the 60s, where they said, hey, you know, all of a sudden we're now going to make this as if it's the Constitution. It does say in the Constitution two things, which is the establishment clause and the free expression clause. The establishment clause is that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise thereof. What they were most worried about was a Presbyterian or a Anglican or a Quaker type religion taking over the federal government. Instead, it was that there is not going to be a state run religion or a state run government. Did you know that one of the first acts of Congress was taxpayer funded Bible printing and distribution? 

Did you know that there are church services held in the Supreme court building as late as the Jackson presidency in the 1820s? I did not know that. I did not know that. So because I'm curious, I looked that up. I wanted to, I wanted to see if that was true. Uh, especially the first part, the taxpayer funded Bible printing. 

Is that true? And I want to, real quick, I'm curious. I'm curious. You're curious. Unlike many, all the haters of Charlie Kirk, who are not curious enough to wonder what the full context is of the clip that they just saw. And they hear it. 

They see a clip of Charlie Kirk and they're not curious enough to be like, well, what, what was he, what was he trying to say? Or what's the context or what did he say a minute before or 10 seconds after I'm curious, I'm curious. I want to know more. They're not curious. They don't care. I am curious. 

I heard Charlie Kirk say that. I was like, oh, I've never heard that about Bible printing. Sure enough. Here's the backstory. In the 1770s, there was a shortage of Bible printing. coming from England. 

So three Presbyterian clergymen in 1777 petitioned the Continental Congress to get more Bibles. So there was a congressional inquiry into it. And they said, we got to import Bibles from other countries or we need to print them here. So in September 11th, 1777, a legislative committee recommended the importation of 20 ,000 Bibles from Holland, Scotland, and other European countries. Top priority from the very first Congress, a top priority. 

We got to get by. 

We got to get 20 ,000 Bibles from the rest of the world. 

We got to bring them in here. 

Top priority from our Congress. You know, the deist who don't really believe in God. Top priority from these founding fathers. And today we're like, ah, whatever. Who cares? Stupid book. 

I don't know. The shortage of Bibles got worse. So there was another congressional inquiry in 1780, and there was a printer in Philadelphia who said, I'll do it. I'll do it. I will produce a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools. 

Aitken was his name. 

A -I -T -K -E -N. And he said he went to Congress to ask for permission to print sacred scriptures, quote, under the authority of Congress. He finished it in September 1782. The congressional chaplains commended the great accuracy of his work, and they passed a resolution in Congress. The United States of the United States and Congress assembled highly approve the pious and laudable undertaking of Mr. Aitken as subservient to the interests of religion and being set. What religion? 

Buddhism. and being satisfied from the above report of his care and accuracy in the extension of the work, they, the Congress, recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States. First top priority of our Founding Fathers. I'll end on these points. Benjamin Rush and John Adams were best friends. Benjamin Rush was the doctor of the Founding Fathers, and they wrote a lot of letters back and forth. 

And they wrote a lot about the moral decay of the United States. Benjamin Rush said, by renouncing the Bible, philosophers swing from their moorings upon all moral subjects. This is Benjamin Rush in the early 1800s saying, Oh man, people today, they're not grounded in truth. They're swinging all over the place. Any topic of morality, they're just making it up. Exactly what we talked about in the last hour. 

That was Benjamin Rush. He said, it is the only correct map, the Bible is the only correct map of the human heart that has ever been published. The Bible contains a faithful representation of all of its follies, vices, and crimes. All systems of religion, morals, and government not founded upon the Bible must perish. And how consoling the thought. The gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 

John Adams wrote back, the Bible contains the most profound philosophy, the most perfect morality, the most refined policy that has ever been conceived upon earth. It is the most Republican book in the world, and therefore I will still revere it. Without national morality, Christianity, a Republican government cannot be maintained. Do we think we're smarter than these men? Do we think we're wiser? Do you think they thought we could not create a country or maintain a country without it being a Christian country? 

Yet here we are. We think we're better. We think we can, we think we can make a country. We think we can improve a country without the foundation they built it on. And we think we can save it. country without getting back to that foundation? 

David Ramsey was in the Continental Congress. He said, remember that there could be no political happiness without liberty, and there could be no liberty without morality, and there could be no morality without religion. Benjamin Rush, 1786, he said, without religion, there could be no virtue. Without virtue, there could be no liberty, and liberty is the object in life of the Republican governments. In conclusion, people say we have a constitutional crisis. Sure, maybe. 

But the reason we have a constitutional crisis is because we have a Christianity crisis. 

Because the constitution was built for a Christian population. If you've made it this far and you're not a Christian, congratulations, you can do whatever you want. Do whatever you want. Does America need to be 100 % Christian in order to survive? 90 %? 80 %? 

70? How low can we go? How many righteous people need to be left? 10? God, 10 people? How low can we go? 

I think we're testing the limits right now. Why are they so threatened by me coming up there for three hours? Open mic. So let me get this straight. Washington State University gets them for four years. I might get some of them for three hours because they know that I, in three hours, can undo the damage of four years of garbage.  one sentence, one question, one truth claim. And that's why they have to try so hard to not let me speak.

 

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A cold cuts three stanzas. A cold coming, we had of it. Just the worst time of the year for a journey. Such a long journey. The waves deep and the weather sharp. The very dead of winter. 

That quote is a paraphrase of a Christmas sermon that was given in 1622 by Lancelot Andrews. How about that for a name? Lancelot Andrews. The original line is, so this is the preacher speaking of the Magi. T . S. 

Eliot's poem is from the perspective of the Magi, so he changes a little bit there, but here's the original sermon. A cold coming they had of it at this time of year, just the worst time of the year to take a journey, and especially a long journey. The waves deep, the weather sharp, the days short, the sun farthest off, the very dead of winter. Let me read a little more from that sermon, actually. It's so good. Come is soon said, but a short word, but many a wide and weary step they made. 

before they could come to say lo here we are come and at our journey's end it's like easy to be like yeah yeah we're coming this was a journey we don't exactly know but somewhere between 500 and 900 miles maybe took one to three months for the magic. We just read about it in a sentence or two in the Bible. And we're like, oh yeah, they saw a star and they followed it and they arrived. You're like, well, hold on. That's a very long journey, a miserable journey. 

And certainly a journey that somewhere along the line, one of the guys had to be like, meh, are we, do we really want to do this? Do we need to do this? We just do something else instead. Should we just turn around? Should we turn around? We should turn around. 

Shouldn't we turn around? 

Months. 

Of this journey, the preacher goes on, we must consider the distance of the place they came from. It was not hard as by the shepherds. This was riding many a hundred miles. The shepherds only came a little bit. The way they came was through deserts, all the way waste and desolate. It was exceedingly dangerous through the midst of thieves and cutthroats. 

At the time of their coming, the season of the year, it was no summer progress. A cold coming they had of it at this time of year, just the worst time to take a journey. And he goes on, that's where the weather deep, sharp, days short. And these difficulties they overcame of a wearisome, dangerous, unseasonable journey. And for all this, they came to see Jesus because there was a star. These pagans saw a star. 

That's what they did. They studied the stars. If you heard our interview with Lee Strobel recently, he talked about how these were people who studied stars. So they would have noticed something odd and they followed it. Just hard for us to imagine, right? Navigation by the stars. 

They did that back then. Okay. Let's keep going. So that's just the first little opening quote. And then so T . S. 

Eliot then speaks just like this preacher did about how difficult this journey was. And the camels galled, sore -footed, refractory, lying down in the melting snow. 

There were times we regretted. 

The summer palaces on slopes, the terraces and the silken girls bringing sherbert. This is what they left. Then the camel men cursing and grumbling and running away and wanting their liquor and women. And the night fires going out and the lack of shelters and the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly and the villages dirty and charging high prices. A hard time we had of it. At the end, we preferred to travel all night, sleeping in snatches with the voices singing in our ears, saying that this was all folly. 

What are we doing? Look what we left. We left a beautiful place for this. And all day, sleeping in snatches, singing in our voices, singing in our ears, saying, what are we doing? Let's go to stanza number two. Then at dawn, we came down to a temperate valley, wet below the snow line, smelling of vegetation with a running stream and a water mill beating the darkness and three trees on the low sky. 

And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow. Then we came to a tavern with vine leaves over the lintel, six hands at an open door, dicing for pieces of silver and feet kicking the empty wine skins. But there was no information. And so we continued and arrived that evening. Not a moment too soon finding the place. It was, you may say, satisfactory. 

You can go back and listen to that stanza again and, or better yet, you read it and you can see, maybe easier to see, the, um, all the allusions to Jesus. Three trees. for the three chords. A white horse. Maybe the water mill beating the darkness is baptism. We have a river here, like a water river of life. 

We have dice, right? Casting of lots. Jesus is the vine. We have wineskins. A lot of biblical imagery here as they're on their journey. And essays and essays could be written about the last line of this penultimate stanza. 

And arriving at evening, not a moment too soon, finding the place, it was, you may say, satisfactory. When I first hear the word satisfactory, I think, uh, it's like, uh, all right, I guess. I guess it's fine. It's like a motel six or something like, all right, like it's a bad, I guess, I guess it's fine. Right. But no, that's not what satisfactory meant. 

So I went back to Webster's 1828 dictionary. Satisfactory, a most wise and sufficient means of salvation by the satisfactory. 

and meritorious death and obedience of the incarnate Son of God, Jesus Christ. 

" That's their definition of the word satisfactory. It means Christ is the satisfaction of the law. Satisfied. We've turned satisfied into a performance review. Satisfactory, not satisfactory, above satisfactory. Satisfactory is amazing. 

Satisfactory is unbelievably profound. We have this long and this constant longing that we can never fulfill until we die and go to heaven to be satisfied. And Jesus was the price paid. His death on the cross was the price paid for our sins. It's satisfied. It was satisfactory. 

So it shouldn't be read, and arrived that evening, not a moment too soon, finding the place. Were we led all that way for birth? There was a birth, certainly. We had evidence, no doubt. I had seen birth and death, but I thought they were different. This birth was hard and bitter agony for us, like death, our death. 

We returned to our places, these kingdoms, but no longer at ease here. And the old dispensation, just way of things, and our old way of things. With an alien people clutching their gods, I should be glad of another death. No longer at ease here. Everything's different for them. It's the same. 

The place is the same, but they are different. They now see these alien people clutching their gods. They saw Jesus. And we know Jesus. We put to death our old ways. Once they saw the Savior, the old way of things for them was a death. 

Just like when we become Christians. And they didn't feel at ease where they were anymore. And neither should we. Our real home is heaven. Hence this unbelievable last line, I should be glad of another death. I think of the story of the Magi as a bit of an odd placement in the Bible. 

I love that like I'm a Like, I'm the editor. I mean, I don't know, God. I don't know if you really needed to put this part in here. It seems a little random. God put it in there for a reason. He wanted us to know the Magi as a part of the birth of Jesus. 

And I don't think it was just plot development to get Herod involved and all. He wanted us to know their story. And I love this poem. 

It's a nice reminder that God came with us, Emmanuel, to save us so we can go to heaven. 

We are with an alien people clutching their gods down here. I should be glad of another death. Merry Christmas. Mike Slater dot Locals dot com. Transcript commercial free on the website. Mike Slater dot Locals dot com.

 

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George Washington and Revelation 6
Politics By Faith, December 17, 2025

Homeland Security quoted a line from Thomas Paine's "American Crisis". This post from DHS reminded me that it is almost the 249th anniversary of George Washington crossing the Delaware. We should understand Revelation 6, which Paine referenced in his essay and which was read to the men in Washington's Army.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. The other day, yesterday, I believe it was, we quoted John Locke with his Appeal to Heaven, which made it to the George Washington approved, commissioned flag. Appeal to Heaven, a quote on Judges 1127, John Locke and his second treatise of government. Today, I want to go from John Locke to Thomas Paine. Thomas Paine, during the Revolutionary War, in the beginning of it, we were losing. 

We were getting crushed battle after battle. And Thomas Paine wrote The American Crisis, a series of 13 essays, in order to boost morale. A lot of famous lines in there. These are the times that try men's souls, one of them. I just want to share some of it here. He starts off explaining the desperateness of the situation. 

He says, let it be told to the future world that in the depth of winter, when nothing but hope and virtue could survive, that the city and the country, alarmed at one common danger, came forth to meet and to repulse it. The heart that feels not now is dead. The blood of his children will curse his cowardice, who shrinks back at a time when a little might have saved the whole. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress and grow brave by reflection. Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm and whose conscience approves his conduct will pursue his principles unto death. " So I'm just imagining being 1776 and you're in this country that's getting attacked by the king and how desperate the situation is and reading this. 

is to myself as straight and clear as a ray of light, not all the treasures of the world, so far as I believe, could have endured. me to support an offensive war, for I think it murder. But if a thief breaks into my house, burns and destroys my property, and kills or threatens to kill me, or those that are in it, and to bind me in all cases whatsoever to his absolute will, am I to suffer it? Of course not. " And then he makes a reference to Revelation 6 .16. That's why I'm talking about it now here in the Politics by Faith podcast. Revelation 6 .16. He doesn't quote Revelation 6 .16. He was so familiar, and so was his audience, so familiar with Revelation 6 .16 that he could just talk of it. Most historians today overlook how often our founding fathers would quote the Bible, because if you have no biblical knowledge of your own, you would miss this. You wouldn't even recognize that it was of the Bible because he doesn't say, as it says in Revelation 6, it doesn't say that. It just says these words. I conceive likewise a horrid idea in receiving mercy from a being who at the last day, so he's talking about if we lose this war, Even if they were to grant me mercy, I conceive it a horrid idea of receiving mercy from a being who at the last day shall be shrieking to the rocks and mountains to cover him and fleeing with terror from the orphan, the widow and the slain of America." That's Revelation 6, 16. 

So he's talking about how the British, even if they win this war, they will be cursed by God. They will be like people on the Latin, the last days. I'll wrap up with Revelation 6, 16 at the end of this podcast here. But the British too will be taken out by God, crying to God for forgiveness. for their sins. " Thomas Paine says, there are cases which cannot be overdone by language and this is one. 

And then he goes on and he says this, which Department of Homeland Security posted the other day with a painting of George Washington crossing the Delaware. Not the famous one, a different one, but still a great painting of Washington crossing the Delaware. Paine said, I thank God that I fear not. I mean, it just went through a pretty horrific description of the state of things, but his turn is, I thank God that I fear not. I see no real cause for fear. I know our situation well and can see the way out of it. 

I saw Homeland Security posted that and under it, someone posted a meme with that painting and it says, Americans will cross a frozen river to kill you in your sleep on Christmas. Literally not kidding. We've done that before. Which brings me to December 26th, 1776, 249 years ago. It's always fascinating to me how we look back on history and we think, oh, well, of course it turned out that way. Of course we won World War II. 

Of course we won the Revolutionary War. Of course, George Washington made it across the Delaware. Of course, we invented the atom bomb first. Of course, of course, of course, we made it to the moon, whatever. Of course, we did this thing. Of course, the Wright brothers were the first to invent. 

No, not even close. All these things that we look back on and think, well, yeah, of course it went this way. They're all miracles. And George Washington crossing the Delaware coming out to about 249 years ago was absolutely one of those miracles. His men were starving. It was freezing cold. 

It was in the 20s. There was a nor 'easter. The wind, they wrote, cut like a knife, driving sleet and snow. Many of them had no shoes. And they went on a three mile hike to get to the river by midnight. Three, three mile hike, 20 degrees, not wearing anywhere near proper attire, pitch black to get to the starting point of the mission. 

And that's when George Washington, 2 ,400 men, 18 cannons, 200 horses crossed the Delaware. Well, of course that worked. No, there were two other crossings planned at the same time or attempted, I should say. So three in total, two of them never made it. They never made it. The ice was too thick. 

The plan was too preposterous. And George Washington himself, the group he was in, he was about to abort too. They were three hours behind schedule. So by the time they made it across, if they made it across, there was still another 10 mile hike that would take another five hours. So they'd get there after the sun came up, they would lose the surprise and they'd all be killed. But he decided in his own words, quote, push on. 

Thank God they did. 22 enemy soldiers were killed, 98 wounded. The Americans captured a thousand prisoners. Only three Americans were killed in the Battle of Trenton, thanks to George Washington's crossing of the Delaware. And this was the turning point. It should not have worked. 

Conditions couldn't have been worse. They fought through a Nor 'easter. Thomas Paine published his first essay on December 19th, 1776 in Philadelphia. It was read to George Washington's troops on December 23rd, 1776. Right before, on Christmas Day, they crossed the Delaware. These are the times that try men's souls. 

The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country. But he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. Let's go to Revelation 6, which Thomas Paine knew intimately enough to reference as an offhand imagery, and that the American people and the people fighting, crossing that Delaware, knew so well that it was powerful and meaningful to them. Revelation 6 is about the six seals on the white horse, red horse, black horse, pale horse. 

Then we finally get to the fifth. Let me quote here. When he, Jesus, opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth? Then a white robe was given to each of them, and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. When all the martyrs are made, God will set it right. 

Then the sixth season began. This is the one that Thomas Paine was referencing. I looked when he opened Jesus opened the sixth seal and behold there was a great earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became like blood and the stars of heaven fell to the earth as a fig tree drops its late figs when it's shaken by a mighty wind then the sky receded as a scroll when it's opened up and every mountain island was moved out of its place and here it is the kings of the earth The great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains. 

Okay. 

They hid themselves and said, let me go back to Thomas Paine. He said, I conceive likewise, a horrid idea and receiving mercy from a being who at the last day shall be shrieking to the rocks and mountains to cover him. Here's revelation 616. So everyone, great men, mighty men, commanders, kings of the earth. They shall hide in the caves and rocks of the mountains and said to the mountains and rocks, fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb for the great day of his wrath has come. And who is able to stand all the mighty Kings, all the great men, everyone brought low. 

It's so bad. They're begging the rocks to fall on them and crush them and kill them rather than face God or in this case, the wrath of the lamb. And that's the final point I want to make here. coming up on Christmas. The wrath of the lamb in Revelation 6. The lamb we think of as the gentle lamb, the baby who we are. 

celebrating coming to earth, Emmanuel, God with us, right? Maybe you'll see some Christmas plays or whatever. That's a little baby, right? This innocent little precious baby, the gentle lamb. Well, his judgment in Revelation 6 is so dreadful that all the mighty kings and great strong men will plead to die, plead to be crushed by rocks rather than face him. So let us celebrate first George Washington and the men who crossed the Delaware. 

Coming up here on the 249th anniversary of that, let us celebrate Jesus as a baby. And also let us know that the wrath of the lamb will happen. Let's not be the people begging to be crushed by rocks rather than face him. We should be people who run to Jesus as a place of refuge, not people who run to caves, begging to be crushed to death. I'll end here. Could go on forever about this. 

Go to Revelation 16. This is the pouring out of the bowls. And this is the third, the third angel poured out the bowl on the rivers and springs of water and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters saying, you are righteous. So Lord, so you're thinking you hear all these, this wrath and it's horrible and awful. And here's, here's an angel saying you are righteous. 

So Lord, the one who is and who was and who is to be, because you have judged these things for, they have shed the blood of saints and prophets and you have given them blood to drink. So that's their punishment. They shed the blood. Their punishment is they have to drink the blood for it is their due. And I heard from. I heard another from the altar saying, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous 

are your judgments. Even in the midst of what we may look at today and think horrible, rough, whatever. From our perspective, God is good. God is good. His punishments are fair and appropriate and just. So repent, run to him, make him Lord of your life. 

Merry Christmas. Mike Slater, not your normal Christmas message. MikeSlater . Locals . com. Transcript commercial free. It's all on that website. MikeSlater .

 

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An Appeal To Heaven, Rob Reiner
Politics By Faith, December 16, 2025

Two topics on today's podcast: I love when the Appeal To Heaven flag returns to the news. Also, too many families know what the Reiner family went through with an addict son.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. I want to talk about Rob Reiner in a moment. Let me get this out off my chest first. Every once in a while, this flag comes up in the news and it's great when it does. The latest is a USA Today report. 

The congressional reporter at USA Today found a Christian nationalist flag. In his words, a controversial Christian nationalist flag. This one hanging outside the DC office of a top education department official. This USA Today reporter is very upset because this is the flag that was raised by rioters during the January 6th insurrection. Don't remember it there, but I'm sure someone had the flag. It's the same flag that flew at Sam Alito's house. 

Unbelievable. 

It's the Appeal to Heaven flag. It's a white flag with a tree in the middle and in black letters on the top it says Appeal to Heaven. Now this USA Today reporter, after being roundly criticized online, deleted the tweet and he wrote back, this flag is more accurately described as quote, a symbol associated with Christian nationalism. Why? Because when you call it a Christian nationalist flag, it makes it sound like the January Sixers made it up a couple of years ago. It's a brand new flag that they just made up themselves. 

The appeal to heaven flag was commissioned by George Washington. The tree, the pine tree in the middle was a symbol of new England. It's a symbol of, uh, well, it's a symbol of tyranny too, because the colonists, There were all these regulations that the crown put on the colonies of harvesting our own timber. The King's officials would come by and they would mark the best pine trees. It was an Eastern white pine. They'd mark the best pine trees for the King's Royal Navy, but they were our trees. 

and we wanted to use them for our boats. So the pine tree became a symbol of resistance and a symbol of independence and a symbol of our Navy, the boats, our boats that we'd use the trees for. There was also something called the Pine Tree Riot in New Hampshire in 1772. So that's the pine tree. The appeal to heaven comes from John Locke on his second treatise of government. And his point was that if you don't have anyone else to appeal to, in our case, appealing for freedom, then your ultimate appeal comes from heaven. 

He wrote, sufferers who have no, who having no appeal on earth to write them, they are left to the only remedy in which cases, in such cases, an appeal to heaven. And he quotes judges 1127, which says, you go a little bit back actually. Therefore, I have not sinned against you, but you wronged me by fighting against me. May the Lord, the judge. render judgment this day between the children of Israel and the people of Amman. So we have lacking a human court. 

The Jephthah must appeal directly to God and appeal to heaven. I love this story and I love when this flag pops up every once in a while because it highlights a few realities. One, that people have no idea about our history. That's sad. We should all know this flag. Everyone should be intimately aware of what this flag is. 

Second, how ignorant people are about our Christian roots and our Christian founding. where they see this flag and appeal to heaven and they're like, Oh, that must be some crazy evangelical Christian nationalism. George Washington, okay, appeal to heaven. George Washington commissioned the flag. John Locke wrote about it. And to prove how far we have to go still, that flag 

and the concept of an appeal to heaven should not be controversial. Go get the flag yourself. Fly it high, fly it proud. All right, let's talk about Rob Reiner and this horrible, tragic story. Rob Reiner's wife murdered by their son with a knife, slit throats, where it's reported. It's worth, as horrible as it is, I think it's worth taking a minute. 

I think it's important to take a minute to consider, to imagine this. And what Rob Reiner must have been thinking, and his wife must have been thinking, one of them saw the other die. They saw their son do it. The fear that... I don't even know. 

I don't even know. 

Just go there for a minute. It's important to do that, I think. It's about as awful as it gets. I don't know if there's a family, obviously. They made a movie together, Rob Reiner and his son, Nick. It's called Being Charlie, about their experience with addiction. 

Nick went to a It's called rehab for the first time when he was 15. He's been 17 times. He's been homeless in many different States before. I've seen three family photos and everyone in the family looks very happy and healthy and rich except for Nick. He's standing there, but he's not there at all. He's not wearing appropriate clothes that everyone else is wearing. 

And his eyes, his eyes are totally spaced out. It's just not, not there. And it's very sad. And I know this is very relatable for a lot of people. of families as well. I don't know enough about addiction. 

I'm just gonna be honest. I'm tangentially connected. I'm in no position to give any advice at all. What is the balance between people, you know, back in the day we used to say, you have a couple screws loose. That was the old expression. And how much of it comes from, like people are born that way versus how much of it is trauma from childhood. 

What the amounts are of each, I don't know. But I do know, and this is going to be next week's or this week's special is Spiritual Warfare is Real. I know it's real, and I know that plays a role. The Bible talks about alcoholism. Talk about nothing new under the sun. It's there. 

Isaiah 5, 1. Woe to those who rise early in the morning, that may run after strong drink, who tarry late into the evenings as wine inflames them. Titus 2, 3. Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine, not being a slave to wine. They are to teach what is good. It's a sin. 

And if you're addicted, you are a slave to it. It doesn't end well. Woe to those. Romans 6 20. It says, but when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at the time from the things of which you are now ashamed? 

For the end of those things is death. If you're a slave to sin, what do you get from it? Nothing. The end is death. I don't know how to break addictions other than the same way we break any sin. The only way to break sin, and that's through salvation with a new heart. 

We played the clip the other day of Jelly Roll on Joe Rogan's show, talking about a new heart, a new creation, not a slightly modified heart, not fixed a little bit here or there, a new creation, a new heart. Romans 6 .11 talks about being dead to the power of sin and alive to God through Christ Jesus. It's the only way to do it. My TV producer sent me a note the other day. It's something I'm thinking about a lot lately. Everyone's always like thoughts and prayers. 

You hear it all the time. Whenever there's a tragedy or thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers or thoughts and prayers go with now. Thoughts is the most ridiculous thing ever, but I'm setting my thoughts. I don't even know what that means. Really. It's definitely become an odd trite thing to say thoughts and prayers, but the prayers part is interesting too, because as my producer said, why not just pray right there? 

Thoughts and prayers is essentially a social way of acknowledging a situation, but not actually praying. Notice this in churches a lot too. You'll be seeing people in the hallways of the church and someone will share something. Oh man, I'll pray for you. And then you go on. And how many people actually pray for the person later? 

How often does that happen? Maybe a lot. I don't think so. Not enough. As opposed to, pray right there. Here's my challenge. 

If someone says something to you in church this Sunday, instead of saying, man, I'm going to pray for you about that. How about let's pray right now and just do it. Let's do it right there. No one will think you're weird. That's the place to do it. Now you do it anywhere, but that's a good place too. 

It's not an odd, it shouldn't be out of character to pray in the church building. What may be out of character is to pray on a podcast. Dear Heavenly Father, I want to pray for everyone who's going through addiction right now. Way too many people, God. I want to pray that you can break their addiction, give them a new heart and have the Holy Spirit speak so clearly to them that they can focus on you. and focus on good things. 

God, I pray for peace for families that are going through addiction with family members. God, I'm having a hard time thinking of anything more difficult than that. I pray for peace for them and a clarity, God, that everything will be perfect in heaven. There will be no crying or pain or addiction in heaven, and I can't wait to be there. In Jesus' name we pray, amen. We talk about the Puritans a lot on this show, and they wrote often about how God has limited our comforts here. 

and how that is a blessing so that we don't cling to this life too tightly, but instead we long for what is to come. We long for eternity. Maybe that perspective, if you can relate to what the Reiner family went through for a long time, if you can relate, maybe that perspective can be helpful. That's all I got. mikeslater . locals . com. Transcript commercial free on the website mikeslater .

 

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