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Charlie Kirk's Mentor, Dr. Frank Turek
Politics By Faith, November 13, 2025
November 13, 2025

15 years ago, before I was a Christian, my friend handed me a book by Dr. Frank Turek. I think about this book all the time. It turns out the author was Charlie Kirk's mentor and spoke at Berkeley the other day amidst the violence. Here is our interview with Dr. Turek on ontology, spistomology and theodicy.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thank you for being here with a special episode today. This morning on my Sirius XM radio show, Breitbart News Daily, had the honor of talking with a one Dr. Frank Turek, mentor of Charlie Kirk, standing right next to him when Charlie was assassinated on September 10th. And he spoke at Berkeley University the other day where there was all the riots and protests out front. Great honor to talk to this man who is very influential in my becoming a Christian. 

I had a militant atheist once at Michigan State ask me this question. He said, if there is a good God, why doesn't he stop all the evil in the world? And I said, sir, that is an excellent question. Maybe because if he did, he might start with you and me because we do evil every day. You ever notice we start complaining about evil. We always start complaining about somebody else doing it. 

It's like, hey, God, why don't you stop him? God, why don't you stop her? God, why don't you stop the shooter? God, why don't you stop Hitler? 

God, why don't you stop? 

Why do we never say, God, why don't you stop me? Ladies and gentlemen, if God were to stop evil at midnight tonight, would you still be alive at 1201? 

There you go. America is the greatest country in the world. Good morning. That is Dr. Frank Turek. He is the president of CrossExamined . org and the author of a book that my friend Paul gave to me right before I became a Christian. 

It's the most influential book, other than the Bible, of course. I didn't even know what apologetics was. The book's called I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist, and I think about it all the time. It's the book I've given to the most people in my 15 years since it was first handed to me. You also happen to be Charlie Kirk's mentor. And that was a speech last night, or a couple nights ago, at Berkeley University. 

Dr. Turek, how are you, sir? 

Mike, I'm doing fine. But Antifa, want that event to go on, as you know. But God has a plan. More attention was brought to that event because of their crude, vile behavior. And that's one reason why we're having this conversation, I guess. 

Yeah, that's right. Did you feel the chaos? We saw it outside. 

Did you feel it? 

Oh, yeah. We were already inside before all that had begun. But it's amazing to me, the people who say they're fighting for inclusion, tolerance and diversity will not include you and will not tolerate you for holding a diverse view. I mean, if irony could kill, they'd be dead because they're doing exactly what they charge people on the right are doing. You know, I mean, they charge my friend Charlie Kirk with being a fascist because we all know, Mike, that a fascist tactic is to hand the microphone to your opponent and say, please make your case. I will listen. 

I mean, The people against Charlie Kirk are the fascists. The people that shot him or the guy that shot him is a fascist. It's crazy what the left does. They do exactly what they claim you're doing. You're not doing it. 

They are. 

Do these events feel different since Charlie was assassinated? 

Yes. This is the first event where we had mass protest. The other events, I guess I did four or five college events prior to this. They were all scheduled prior to Charlie. Tonight, I'll be at the University of Alabama, Lord willing. And then next Thursday, Boise State. 

But so far, other than this event, the college events have been mostly Christians and people sympathetic to TPUSA showing up. And it's been more cathartic than it has been adversarial. Although I will say everybody's been the room at Berkeley the other night was a supporter. The first guy claimed to be part of Antifa, and he asked Rob Schneider a question, and he was very disrespectful to Rob. And Rob got back to him with some sarcasm of his own, and then later shook his hand, because Rob was saying, You know, we're the peaceful ones in here. 

We're the ones that want to have a conversation. It's the people on your side who are outside of this venue right now, hurling bottles and and lighting off firecrackers and spitting on people. We want to have a conversation and you guys don't. Now, what's the way forward? Let's have a conversation. 

Yeah, that's great. What did you say when the Turning Point people said, hey, Frank, How about Berkeley? 

You want to go? 

Boise is one thing. 

Boise, great. 

Alabama, sure. You're going to go to Berkeley too. 

What was your first thought? 

Well, Charlie and I were talking about it months ago. I said, Charlie, if there's any campus I want to go with you to, it'd be Berkeley. He said, well, let's do it. So it was supposed to be me and Charlie the other night there. He's going to remain in glory, obviously, and did. 

So why did you want to go there? 

Oh, because it's the most liberal school in the country. I want to go into that. Those are the people I want to reach, you know, and the people around that area who are Christians, they need a lifeline. They need someone to come in and say, well, we're going to come into your area and speak, because typically you don't get that kind of speaker there. I mean, you remember, how long ago was this, Mike? Was it five or six years ago, six, seven years ago when Ben Shapiro went there? 

And they had to have 600 police officers protect him. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Let's let's let's talk about how we're all. 

inclusive, tolerant, and diverse, but anybody that disagrees with us, we won't include and we won't tolerate. It's so hypocritical. Lightbulb you lit in my head, which was that people say there's no such thing as truth. Is that true? It's the same illogic right from the very jump for these people. 

What would you say your mission is? 

Are you there to encourage believers or convince the atheists more? 

Yes. How about both? My goal on a college campus is to encourage and equip the Christians and put a stone in the shoe of the skeptics. Look, you're not going to reach people like Antifa because they're totally closed off. And Jesus talked about this. He said, don't cast your pearls before swine because they will trample you to death. 

Now, you need to know who the swine are, who are the people that have their minds completely closed, may even have some sort of demonic activity going on. You're not going to reach them. Nobody's going to reach. They're not open. But there are people in the middle. And look, not everybody on the left agrees with Antifa. 

We can't be like the left and and paint everybody with a broad brush. If you have leftist political views, I hope you don't agree with Antifa on the method of achieving those views, right? 

But about a third of young people who are students think it's okay to use violence to oppose a political idea, whereas only about 3 % of very conservative students think that, and that's 3 % too many. But when you got a third of left -wing students saying violence is okay to advance or to oppose a political idea, we got a big problem here. 

Talking to Dr. Frank Turek, Charlie Kirk's mentor. How often do you think about September 10th? First thing I think about when I wake up is Charlie. Last thing I think about before I go to sleep is Charlie. I was there. It's going to take a while. 

It was just an awful stain on our country, an awful stain on our politics. But, on the other hand, Mike, it's also a demonstration that this world is fallen, that we're all fallen, that we all need a Savior, that evil is real, and if evil is real, that means good is real, because you can't have evil without good, and you can't have good without God. 

So this event actually shows God does exist, not that He doesn't, because it wouldn't even be evil unless God existed, and that's what I was talking about at Berkeley. You played that clip at the top of the show. 

Yeah. You weren't there. You were standing right next to him. Yeah, I mean, I was there because Charlie and I had spent the previous couple of days together, you know, talking about how to answer certain questions, particularly about the Christian faith, and even about Israel. People say, oh, he was waffling on Israel. No, he wasn't. 

I was in a meeting with him the day before he was murdered, talking about that, in fact, with three Israelis. So yeah, there's so much misinformation put out. And Candace Owens, unfortunately, is putting out a lot of it. She says she's asking questions, but she's insinuating that certain people are guilty when they're not. And that's just ethically wrong. I mean, my friend Mikey McCoy is getting death threats. 

I'm having people email me. 

You never know what can happen to you. 

You know, you ought to repent. Of what? You know, I mean, it's amazing. The ask questions. 

Didn't Charlie have a word for that? He had a phrase like the asking questions crowd or something like that. The just asking questions. It's okay to ask questions, it's not okay to insinuate people are guilty when you have no evidence. Okay? There's a difference between a possibility and evidence for a possibility. 

By the way, the same kind of thing happens when people talk about the resurrection. They'll say, oh, you know, somebody stole Jesus's body, or, you know, he swooned, or they went to the wrong tomb, and they come up with all these possibilities. All those things are possible, but you don't have any evidence for those. 

You need evidence to say, yeah, that's what we think happened. I mean, it's possible aliens took his body, Mike. 

But we don't have evidence for that. 

Yeah, but we do have evidence for a different thing. Of course, the truth. Yeah, he rose from the dead. Yeah. 

I asked earlier in the show, I asked if anyone has any questions for the email. And I got a couple of good ones here. This is from Dan. He said, what was Charlie like in the beginning stages of wanting to understand more and improve his wisdom or knowledge? Well, as I said at the memorial service, it can be hard to mentor somebody smarter than you. but not with Charlie Kirk because the only thing that exceeded his intellect was his humility. 

And the few things that I knew that he didn't, he wanted to know. So Charlie was the same always. He was always asking questions. He could learn from anybody because he knew he needed to learn from anybody. I mean, 31 years old, Mike. I mean, look at how accomplished he was at 31. 

Why was he accomplished at 31? Because he knew that he could learn from other people and he took the opportunity to do so. He wasn't a know -it -all. He was somebody that knew he didn't know everything, and wanted to learn so much so he could be a better ambassador for Christ. He wanted to do two things. 

He wanted to bring skeptics to Jesus, and he wanted to bring people on the left to the right, and also affirm people on the right to know that we ought to learn. conserve values, not just values, they're moral truths, they're not just my opinion, to conserve what we know is good, right, true, and beautiful. That's what conservatives are supposed to do, conserve what's right and beautiful. That's what we're supposed to do, and Charlie wanted to do that. Give me an example recently, or whatever, of the stone in the shoe. I love that idea. 

You just want to throw a little, just some little thing that sticks with someone. What has been a stone in the shoe lately that someone's come back to you with and been like, oh man, you got me, Dr. Turek. You got me. That was the stone and I couldn't let it go. Well, evil is a big stone in the shoe of unbelievers because they have no standard by which to even tell you what evil is. Because if there is no standard of good that we're obligated to obey, then evil itself doesn't really exist. 

It's just your opinion. It's just something you don't like. It's just a preference. But the only way there can be a standard that all humanity is obligated to obey is if there is a God whose nature is good and who has said that we needed to obey that nature, otherwise we were immoral or wrong or unjust. You see, in order to say something's unjust, you have to know what justice is. In order to know what – in order to say something's immoral, you have to know what morality is. 

In order to say someone's not right, you have to know what right is. But those things only exist in a theistic world. They don't exist in an atheistic world where we're all just moist robots dancing to our DNA, as Richard Dawkins put it. And so evil is a big stone in the shoe of non -believers. Evil doesn't disprove Christianity. Evil doesn't disprove God. 

In fact, Christianity is the answer to the problem of evil. There'd be no reason for Jesus to be evil. if evil didn't exist. That's why he came. So evil is a big stone in the shoe. What you mentioned earlier is a big stone in the shoe. 

When people say self -defeating things, you know, when they say there's no truth and you ask them, is that true? Or when they say you ought not judge and then you say to them, then why are you judging me for judging? You know, these are self -defeating statements. When they say there are no absolutes and you say, are you absolutely sure? When they say all truth is relative and you say, is that a relative truth? When they say you can't know anything and you say, then how can you know that? 

You see, there's so many illogical things uttered by people on the left that once you unveil the law of non -contradiction on them, they suddenly go – they get all befuddled, and you know what they wind up doing? They don't argue. They wind up emoting, and that's what Antifa does. They can't argue for their position. 

It's wrong. 

It's indefensible. 

So what do they do? They emote. That's all it is. It's just rage. Yeah. Dr. Frank Turek, crossexamine . 

org is the website. 

I want to talk about some of the curriculum that I've since been doing in a moment at the website. Crossexamine . 

org, buy his book, Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. 

By the way, moist robots, are those your words or his words? 

Are those actual Dawkins words? 

Moist robots? Moist robots is my word. Okay, that's your assessment. Yeah. His phrase is dancing to our DNA. Okay. 

Yeah. So we're just like, Just like our chemicals in our brain and the DNA, either one of those are bleak. That's like a bleak worldview. That's so sad. But on the evil point, I'm channeling Bill Maher and people like Bill Maher. 

Two things he'll say. Let me get your first one. 

You say he's good. How can we know evil if we don't know good? 

and God is good? 

Okay. 

He's also corrupt and petty and vicious and cruel. 

What do you say to that? Yeah. I would ask by what standard? 

By what moral standard are you saying those things? My standard. I think it's bad to kill all this giant group of people, which God did. If there's no God, that's just your opinion. Okay. Why is that wrong? 

Because I say it's wrong. Can't I just say it's wrong? What's wrong with that? Yeah, it's just your subjective opinion. It's like saying, I like chocolate, vanilla, and you like, or I like chocolate ice cream and you like vanilla ice cream. Okay, it's just a preference. 

But he doesn't act like it's a preference. You see, he has to steal a standard from God in order to argue against him. That's another book I wrote called Stealing from God, like atheists need God to make their case, okay? You have to steal a standard to say God is immoral. 

Now it turns out when you read the Bible and you see God judging people for evil, that's really what's going on. 

And God has the right to take people out whenever He wants. Look, we don't have the right to do that, but if God wants certain people to be judged now and move from this life into the next life, that's up to Him. You know, if Christianity is true, people don't die, they just change location. They go from this life to the next life. That's up to God, not up to us. So, look, let me say something about Bill Maher. 

I've been on the show years ago, a few times. I think Bill Maher makes more sense than most pastors, many times. Say more. 

He will talk on these issues where pastors won't, like transgenderism. Maher's all over it. He's going, this is crazy. He said, when I was a kid, I wanted to be a pirate. 

Thank God nobody took me seriously and took me for eye removal and peg leg surgery. You know, I mean, Maher gets many things right, even though he's an atheist. He still has. the standard of good on his heart written there by God, as Paul says in Romans chapter 2, the Gentiles and I have the law of the world written on their hearts, so he gets many things right. He just has no way of justifying what right is unless God exists. What's the best atheist argument to that? 

The Sam Harris, what's the Sam Harris argument to what you just said? How do they steal man? Can you steal? Sam Harris's argument is, well, what's right is human flourishing. And we might agree with Sam. Right. 

But what he's confusing is a couple of things. First thing, he has no standard by which to say humans should flourish. He's smuggling in a moral law in order to say that. Right. Why human beings? Why not dolphins? 

Why not roaches? Why not? And which human beings? Why us and not the Nazis? You know, who should flourish? So he's smuggling a moral standard into a system And secondly, he's confusing two things that many atheists confuse. 

They might say something like, hey, Mike, I know right from wrong. I don't need your God. We're not talking about knowing right and wrong. That's epistemology. That's how you know something. 

We're talking about the standard of morality itself. 

Why does that exist? That's not epistemology. That's ontology. 

And they're confusing epistemology, how you know something, with ontology, the existence of the thing you know. You know, you can drive down the street and see the speed limit 70 miles an hour and deny there's a traffic authority, right? You can know the speed limit and still deny that there's a traffic authority, but there would be no speed limit to know unless there was a traffic authority. And that's the problem with atheists. They know right from wrong, but they deny the authority that establishes right and wrong, whose nature is right. and wrong, not wrong, but is right, is the standard of right, and any deviation from that would be what's wrong. 

Okay. 

All right. 

That's a brilliant job explaining that to me like I'm in 10th grade. Can you explain that too? Say everything you just said again, like I'm eight years old. 

Like you're eight years old. 

It might be wrong to punch your sister, okay, if mommy exists. 

But if mommy doesn't exist, it's just your sister's opinion against your opinion, right? In other words, there has to be an authority that establishes what good or right is. And so for you to say, or for someone to say it's wrong to punch your sister, there has to be a standard of good that says it's wrong to punch your sister. If it's just your opinion against your sister's opinion, that's just two opinions. It's a preference. Yes. 

Even if you ignore mommy, the example that we used in the, your homeschool curriculum for second to fifth graders that we did last night was literally, if your mom says clean your room and you ignore her, she still said it. Whether you, whether you pretended to, whether you, you still heard it. Like you can, you can pretend like you didn't, but you did and your room still needs to be cleaned. Yep. Yeah. You can, you can know something is wrong and not do it, obviously. 

But something wouldn't really be wrong unless there was a standard of right that you could define wrong by. Because you see, evil is not a thing in itself, it's a lack and a good thing. So evil is like cancer. If you take all the cancer out of a good body, you have a better body. What happens if you take all the body out of the cancer? You got nothing, doesn't exist. 

Or evil is like rust in a car. If you take all the rust out of a car, you have a better car, but if you take all the car out of the rust, you got a pinto. Now, you got something that doesn't exist, right? In other words, evil is a lack in a good thing. Evil is what we might call anti -creation. God creates good things. 

God created Charlie Kirk, and Tyler Robinson did evil by destroying the good thing that God had created. Now, Charlie Kirk still exists, but his body has been destroyed. He still exists, he's absent from the body present with the Lord, But the bad thing that was done was anti -creation. God creates good things and human beings degrade those good things, and that's what evil is. It's anti -creation. I got one more apologetist question. 

Bill Maher would ask this too. He calls all the stories comically stupid. Floating hands on walls, people turning into salt, all the animals on a boat. Come on, Frank. Talking donkeys. 

Yeah, well, the only reason he thinks that is because he's an anti -supernaturalist. 

He thinks that only natural things can occur, but what he's missing is that this whole natural world was created to begin with and is sustained right now. The natural laws that are governing the universe right now were put there by a lawgiver, and they're sustained by a lawgiver. And they're not even the greatest miracles in the Bible. The greatest miracle in the Bible is the first verse, in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. If that verse is true, Mike, every other verse in the Bible is at least possible. And now even atheists are admitting the evidence for the first verse. 

They're admitting the universe had a beginning. Of course, they don't think it's God, but what else could it be? 

If space, time, and matter had a beginning out of nothing, whatever created the universe has to at least be spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful to create the universe out of nothing, personal in order to choose to create, and intelligent to have a mind to make a choice. 

So he's asked people, when you think about a spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful, personal, intelligent cause, who do you think of? God. That's what we call God, okay? So if Genesis 1 -1 is true, if even atheists are admitting the evidence for that verse, then every other verse in the Bible is at least possible. 

Of course it's crazy by natural laws, but we're not saying a natural law caused you know, a hand to write on the wall or Jesus to walk on water or rise from the dead. 

We're not we're not saying you need natural law to even recognize what a miracle is. You know, you wouldn't be able to recognize that hands don't normally write on walls, you know, without a without an arm. You know, you wouldn't normally recognize that a man walks on water unless natural laws existed. You know, you wouldn't recognize you couldn't determine what a miracle was or discover what a miracle was. unless you had these natural laws that did the same thing over and over again, because miracles are an exception to those things. 

Who made God? No one made God, because He is the unmade maker. You don't ask who created the uncreated creator. We just mentioned that God is timeless. If you're timeless, do you have a beginning? No. 

No, you don't have a beginning, you don't have a cause. He is the uncaused first cause. And there has to be an uncaused first cause, otherwise nothing would exist. So it's either the universe is something outside the universe, but all the evidence shows the universe had a beginning, therefore it must be something outside the universe that is the uncaused first cause. Dr. Frank Turk, let me again give the pitch for your book, one of your books, I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. 

There's a few more. But I also got to commend you and co -author on the curriculum. So since last time we talked, I immediately bought the second to fifth grade student workbook. And we've been going through it with the kids. We go through it sometimes in the morning or dinnertime or in bed and we just roll through it. It is phenomenal. 

It is so good. The kids are so tracking with it. Dr. Turk, it's like case study, perfect tracking. They'll read it and then they'll ask a question. And it's literally the next part of the thing. 

It's perfectly outlined. I cannot give it, it could not be better. the way it's written and how it's written and the flow of it and the building on top of it. It's just perfection. And every single person with a second to fifth grader, Johnny's Johnny's in kindergarten. He gets it. 

So you can go, you can go below kindergarten to fifth grade. I would say, get that one. I can't vouch for the sixth, eighth or high school. I'm sure it's just as good, but I can only give you the highest approval for everyone listening to get the, uh, at least the very first second to fifth grade, uh, curriculum. How did you guys develop? I think it's called. 

Yes, God, it's real. It's on our website. Cross examine .org. 

Just click on store. You'll find it. Yeah. 

Go get it. Everyone get, I'm not kidding. You got to get that. And then if you're an adult, Start with five copies of I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. 

Might as well get ten, because you'll read it and then you'll give out a bunch to everyone else. 

Dr. Turek, keep up the wonderful work. 

Are you slowing down? Are you going to stop at all? Getting tired? Getting old? Well, University of Alabama tonight, Boise State next week. We'll get a little break over Thanksgiving, but yeah, it's been tiring, but we got to move forward. 

Hearts are tender, Mike. That's what we're doing. Crossexamined . org, Dr. Frank Turek. Dr. Turek, thank you for your time today. Thank 

Thank you, Mike. Appreciate it, God bless. Crossexamined . org, and I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. I'm not exaggerating when I talk about the book. You buy 10 of them, just buy 10 of them, you'll hand them all out. 

And we've had a wonderful time. Truly, it's been a joy reading through his homeschool curriculum because the kids, I'm not, I'm not, whatever I said there is 100 % true. I'll be reading something and the kids will ask a question. And I'll do the best I can to answer it. And then it's the very next paragraph in the curriculum is explaining the question that they just asked. It's so logically and perfectly outlined. 

And the kids get it and they're excited about it. They're excited that they get it. It's really, really good. Crossexamine . org is the website. A lot of information there to click around on and get the resources you need to help you work. 

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You were terse and dismissive in this morning's 7:25 Eastern time call with the Man with four step children applying for Naturalization from his Naturalized U.S. Wife of Philippine descent. You should be more considerate of history about America's relationship such as with the Philippine People, which is quite notable with intrinsic factors which should have favorable weight in consideration the Filipino propensity to immigrate and become American Citizens.

"The Resident Commissioner of the Philippines was a non-voting member of the U.S. House of Representatives from 1907 until the Philippines gained independence in 1946. This role was established under the Philippine Organic Act of 1902, allowing the Philippines to have representation in Congress, similar to current non-voting members from U.S. territories."

Don't be so apparently xenophobic and stop misrepresenting American (and Christian while you're at it) History in omission through culpable ignorance.

The Philippines, 1898–1946
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November 11, 2025

Happy Veterans' Day.
Support our Troops. Before. During. After.

St. Martin, Bishop of Tours, Confessor, Soldier of the State, Soldier of Christ
November 11
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Eric Swalwell, CA Governor's Race, and Bearing Rotten Fruit
Politics By Faith, April 13, 2026

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It's been an open secret among Democrats that women should stay away from Congressman Eric Swalwell. So why are all of these accusations coming out now? And what can we learn from Numbers 17?

Welcome to Politics by Faith. This is where we take the news of the day and we bring it to the Bible so that we can all walk away with peace and perspective. There's new headlines every day, but Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun. So thanks for being here to get the true story, story of the day. Eric Swalwell thrown under the bus. Here's what happened. 

Eric Swalwell, Congressman of California, San Francisco, since 2012, first gained national prominence when he was found to be sleeping with a Chinese spy, Fang Fang. And he was kicked off, that's her name, Fang Fang. And he was kicked off the Intel Committee at the time for that. What a dope. That was in 2020 or so. More recently, he's made a name for himself as a leader of the Never Trump Movement. 

He's totally shameless and a total political hack. I don't know how full blown his TDS actually is, but he comes across as the most TDS person there can be on MSNBC and all the rest. He's a San Francisco Democrat. That's been the last couple of years. But now he's in the news because he's running for the governor of California. Now, here's the noteworthy thing that you got to understand about this situation. 

The primary for governors on November or June 2nd or 3rd. I forget. It's coming up in June. And it's an open primary, which means all the Democrats and all the Republicans run together on one big, giant primary ballot. The top two move on to the next and final round. It didn't used to be this way. 

California voters in 2010 voted for this as Prop 14. It barely passed. I was there when it happened. I don't think people knew what it was. But anyway, so that's what they do in California now for a bunch of these races. The Democrats did this and they manipulated people into voting for this because they obviously 

completely controlled the state and they were sick of having to run in general elections and spend a bunch of money so they said well let's what if we could come up with a system where no republicans make it to the general election so they said oh let's do this top two primary system where they just get two democrats to make it to the finals so whoever wins democrats win does that make sense So it used to be the Democrats have a primary and the Republicans have a primary, and then the top Republican and the top Democrat go on to the general. But now they just have all do one giant primary and then two Democrats always make it to the next round. So Democrats win already. That's it for them. It's great for them. It's been. 

But it might backfire in this governor's race. There are so many Democrats running that there is a world where each Democrat gets 12 % of the vote. And the two Republicans who are running, Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco, they each split the Republican vote and get 15 % of the vote. Now, I will grant you that this is a bit of a Republican pipe dream, but as we will share in a moment, not that much because they threw Swalwell under the bus. So you can call it a pipe dream, but it's enough that they had to get rid of Swalwell. So What if the two Republicans get about 15 % of the vote each? 

That's about 30 % overall, which makes sense. In California, if Republicans get about 30 % of the vote overall, maybe it's a little more. Maybe they get 35 % of the vote overall, right? So maybe it's like 17. They each get 17 % of the vote, something like that. They could do that, and all the other Democrats get 12, 13, 14 % of the vote, and then two Republicans make it to the top two to go into the next round. 

That background is important. That possibility is important because the Democrats need to start taking each other out now. in order to consolidate their vote because none of the Democrats are dropping out on their own. The top Democrats are Tom Steyer. He's a billionaire environmentalist guy. He's been funding tons of California stuff for decades. 

And he's like, well, I'm just going to run now. Then Congressman Katie Porter, who's a terrible person, just one of the all time worst people ever. And then Eric Swalwell, Those are the big three, but there's also the mayor of San Jose is running, also Antonio Villara Garosa, whose real name is Tony Villar, the former mayor of Los Angeles. These guys, you know, former mayors, they got enough name recognition where they are and they're gonna help split up the vote for the Democrats, and none of them are dropping them. So the Democratic machine got together and they said, all right, well, we gotta get rid of someone. And they said, well, let's get rid of Swalwell. 

So a woman came out and claimed, any kids listening, kids mourning for a moment. Woman came out and said she was... Actually, I don't even know if she used the r -word. She may have just said sexually assaulted. Just. But you know what I mean. 

By Suomo. We don't need to go over the details here. It sounds like a classic Me Too. It looks like where he got him alone and then asked him for stuff and they felt pressured to say yes because he's the superior and they're the intern and they were all very inebriated and it was all regrettable but there was a power imbalance and there's all that stuff. I don't know what happened. I wasn't there. 

But it's enough. that members of Congress, granted, even further left people, are calling for him to resign and even be expelled from Congress, get kicked out entirely because of his relations with a subordinate. They want him gone. I think four women have come forward so far, but now a bunch of other people saying that they've known this for decades, an open secret. Swalwell is on his second wife. He's been married to this woman's second wife. 

He's also now, just because they got to get rid of him. So he's also accused of violating immigration and employment laws by keeping his Brazilian, I guess, illegal alien nanny, live -in nanny, who doesn't have work authorizations. I guess that she's legal, right? And he paid her with campaign funds. So they're doing everything they can to try to get him out. By the way, that illegal alien thing, that harkens back, Meg Whitman, Meg Whitman in the 2010 governor's race, which she was doing well as a Republican. 

California wasn't completely gone then. And then it came out that she had an illegal alien housekeeper for many years. So Swalwell has an illegal alien living handy too. All right, so that's the story, right? It's a Me Too throwing them under the bus, but you understand why they're throwing them under the bus? 

Right. 

So that's that's my what's broken section for today's episode is obviously the infidelity and the sexual assault. That's horrible. But the political broken and I should say and also the political brokenness of this, because the only reason why the Democrats and the media are are turning on Fang Fang's lover is because of the California governor's race and because of the recent polling. There's no other reason. They obviously would have kept all of this going forever if there was no reason to throw him under the bus. But now they're more than happy to throw them under the bus. 

This is John Nolte, he said, this is the corporate media doing what the corporate media always does. If you want to understand how the media operate, whenever you see the media do something, anything, ask yourself one question, how does this benefit Democrats? So if they can take one of the top three out, in this case, Swalwell, divvy up his 15 points, hand them out to the other couple of Democrats, and maybe now they can take out one of the Republicans. And if they can take out one of the Republicans and just get, even if it's just one Democrat making it to the general, then of course, I shouldn't say of course, but you know, more than likely the Democrat will win the governor's race. So the chance to win this race for Republicans is now, and the Democrats know that, which is why they're throwing Swalwell under the bus. 

If Swalwell was polling at 40 % then or 30 % or even in second place, they wouldn't do this and they would continue to cover up who he was forever. But now he's a threat to the party and he's a threat to the Democrats, maybe losing the governor of California's race. So they don't care. He's dead to them. Let's get to the Bible. So quick, like what, what could the, how do we put the Bible in this? 

A quick little backstory here. When preparing for this podcast, it goes both ways. Sometimes I'll come across a news story, and in my researching it or talking about it on the radio, a Bible story will come to mind. Sometimes it goes the opposite way, where I'm reading the Bible, and then it reminds me of something that's happening in the news, and either way, it all works out. This one's a little bit different, and I thought maybe worth sharing real quick. I was in Bible class before church today, as I record this, and my pen was in my Bible, and it was very early in the Old Testament. 

It was like in the beginning of the book, and I was like, oh, I don't remember reading that recently. I wonder why my pen's there. Was I reading something there? I just put the pen there for, I don't know. So I opened it up. I was like, I wonder if I read this. 

And it was Numbers 17 about Aaron's staff blossoming. I said, no, I didn't. I haven't read that. Just random pen dropping in the Bible. So we have class and then I go and I get the kids in the hallway after their class. And Johnny walks out of his room and he hands me a piece of paper that he colored, which is about what he learned about in church, the Bible class before church. 

And it was a piece of paper. that he drew of Aaron's staff blossoming. What? So today we're gonna talk about Aaron's staff blossoming. We just gotta go with it. We're gonna keep going here. 

It's a wonderful story. Numbers 17. So God was choosing the priesthood over all the other tribes of Israel. And there was a lot of grumbling going on. So God's like, all right, we're gonna put this to bed once and for all for everyone. Check out number 16, you want to read about Korah and all the grumbling about Moses and Aaron. 

So God said, all right, everyone, take a staff, a dead stick from each tribe, write a name above it, put it in the tabernacle. OK, let me pick up from here. Verse eight. So number 17, verse eight. On the next day, Moses went into the tent of the testimony and behold, the staff of Aaron for the house of Levi had sprouted and put forth buds and produced blossoms and bore ripe almonds. Then Moses brought out all the staffs from before the Lord to all the people of Israel. 

And they looked and each man took his staff. And the Lord said to Moses, put back the staff of Aaron before the testimony tabernacle to be kept as a sign for the rebels that you may make an end of their grumblings against me, lest they die. Thus did Moses, as the Lord commanded him. So he did. So a wonderful little story. And the point of this story, one of the things that stood out to me about this was, of course, this dead stick coming to life. 

But it didn't just have a leaf. That would be enough. I've just had one little leaf sticking out of there. It had all the seasons. It had leaves. It had blossoms. 

It had ripe almonds already. And this stood out to me because I love the concept of fruit. Karpos in the Bible, in the Greek. The fruit of your actions. The fruits of the Holy Spirit. Fruit is the 

outward expression of power working inwardly. You have inwardly stuff happening. Okay, well, what's the fruit? And I came across this commentary from F . B. Meyer, maybe it was a hundred years ago. 

He said the rod, this dead stick, had spring, summer, and autumn all at once. The bud of spring, he said, there's a perennial... And this is us too, right? So we have this dead stick, which is us, And we should have all three of these seasons represented in our lives as well, is F . 

B. 

Meyer's point. So first, the bud of spring. There is a perennial freshness in the true saint, a perennial freshness, an always existing freshness in the true saint. He may be old in years, but his leaf is green with vernal tenderness. And there are always budding promises of richer and better things that he has yet attained. 

The outward man decayeth, but the inward renews his youth forever. 

like an eagle's. So we should all, no matter how we're getting, you see my beard, a gray beard, that old. I think a gray beard old, but I guess I'm four kids old. You should always have this freshness of spirit like spring. He also mentioned the blossom of early summer. He said there's an exquisite beauty in the blossom of orchard and garden. 

No painters ever yet learned God's secret of mixing his colors, such as the beauty of the character of the believer. Men will say involuntarily how attractive, how beautiful. And then the fruit of autumn. That we should bear fruit, ripe almonds, not just almonds, but ripe almonds, is the end of Christ in our redemption and discipline. We can only do it in fellowship with himself. He must bear it through us. 

From me is thy fruit found. I've chosen you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should remain. " That's John 15, 16. So God brought forth life from this dead stick. To be clear, we're all dead sticks, but with God's power and Jesus's resurrection and with the Holy Spirit, our lives can produce fruit. And if you are not those things, then your life will produce very different fruit. 

Fruits you don't want. 

Rotten fruit. And maybe you'll be of a political party or in a position of power or influence where other people will cover for your rotten fruit, but you will know it. Eventually it will come out. You will know it always. And God, of course, will too. I'll end with Matthew 7, 16, because we live in a culture where you're told not to judge. 

Don't ever judge. Jesus says you will recognize them by, by what? Their fruits. 

Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? 

Of course not. Let's pray for the Holy Spirit to work so that we can be people who produce good fruit always. YouTube . com slash at politics by faith. If you could subscribe over there, that'd be awesome. It's free, of course, and it helps with the algorithm and it helps us spread the word. YouTube . com slash at politics by faith.

 

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Is Trump A War Criminal or A Coward?
Politics By Faith, April 9, 2026

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If the president says he's going to bomb Iran, the left says he's a war criminal. When he doesn't bomb Iran, the left says he's a coward and always chickens out. You can't help the Trump deranged. But we can learn from 1 Samuel 15 on the importance of following God's Word completely. 


Welcome to Politics by Faith. This is where we take the news of the day and we bring it to the Bible. So you can walk away with peace and perspective. There's new headlines every day, but Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun. So thanks for being here to get the true story, the story of the day. Donald Trump chickens out. 

It's very funny if the left says that, well, let's say Trump says he wants to drop a bomb, right? Oh, he's committing a war crime. And then Trump doesn't drop the bomb. Oh, he's a chicken, a coward. You cannot win with the Trump deranged, which is fine. The very short of the story, Trump talked, he spoke loudly and carries a big stick. 

He talked a big game in a way that the people he was talking to, Muslim lunatics in Iran, would understand. They came to the negotiating table at the last minute because, again, the big stick part, he's used it. They know he will. So they negotiated and they agreed, Iran agreed to open the Strait of Hormuz. So Trump didn't attack. Great news. 

Now we'll see if they open up the Strait. That's all we want at this point is open up the Strait of Hormuz. If they do that, then we're probably done in Iran. It kind of depends who rises from the ashes. And if the people there can rise up and run their country, we'll see what they're able to do. But this is possible that we're done in Iran at this point, if they open up the Now, if you lived online when this all happened, it was a dark and weird place, even more than usual. 

People very anxious about what was going to happen by the Trump administration. very anxious or confused when it didn't happen. And then people saying we lost the war and Trump showed weakness and it was all very bizarre and weird. Now on the Iran one part, there are a lot of people. First of all, there are a lot of people on MSNBC. Apparently, I didn't even think that people really thought this never even crossed my mind. 

When Trump said there will be a civilizational erasure, people on MSNBC were thinking that Trump was going to kill 90 million people. And Iran just bombed them all. 

What? 

He's been doing this for 11 years, guys. You still don't know his MO? You don't know how this works? 

Geez. 

Now, people even afterwards said that Trump lost and Iran is winning. Iran won. Iran came out ahead. They're the ones winning. So someone said, all right, let's flip it. Let's flip the script here for a second. 

Imagine Iran killed Trump in the first five minutes of the war. established air superiority over the U . 

S. 

mainland, wiped out the entire U . 

S. 

Air Force, U . S. Navy, killed half the cabinet, flattened the U . S. military -industrial complex, then started building runways in Missouri to land Iranian troops without losing any casualties. Would you say that it was a U . 

S. victory if America managed to keep the Panama Canal closed for a couple weeks? I don't think anyone would say that that was a U . S. victory, so how on earth could you say this is an Iranian victory? Now, before we get to the biblical story of the day, I have two frustrations that I would like to share. 

Let me try to do this quick. So, number one, it's very frustrating that we are unable as a country to talk about what is good and right and proper without having to run it through the prism or framework that is the midterms. We've got the midterms coming up eight months from now. we have an election. So we can't talk about if it's good to do anything. It always has to be, well, how is it going to affect the midterms? 

Okay, well, what are these midterms? Well, this is when the people vote. On what? Gas prices. That's it. Just gas prices. 

That's the only thing people vote on, apparently, is gas prices. Okay, so what happens if gas prices are $3 .20 a gallon? They vote for Republicans. 

All right. 

What if gas is $3 .86? Oh, Democrats. Hold on. Democrats want gas to be $10 a gallon. That's what they want. And you're going to vote because gas is a little too high for your liking. 

You're going to vote for the Democrats who want it even worse. If that makes sense. And then you're like, all right, fine. The election's about gas prices. Okay. Well, who sets the gas prices? 

Oil futures markets, which is based off of what people think gas will cost later. Okay. That's not, I'm not going to analyze a thing, war in Iran, or deporting the U . S. or whatever the thing is. I'm not going to analyze that through the prism of the midterms, which is decided by voters who only care about gas prices, which are determined by future oils markets of predictions of what, like that's not happening. And Trump doesn't either. 

Trump only cares about what is right and he's going to do it now. He doesn't worry about timing. Maybe he'll worry a little bit about the timing, he'll tend to drop bombs on Fridays, but that's only because he doesn't want people in the stock market to freak out unnecessarily. Give it two days, he'll know, and people will be fine about it on Monday. But big picture timing, Trump doesn't care, just does what is right. And I am frustrated that we, every time we're faced with something like this, 

it through the midterm matrix. All right, second frustration. This perception or this opinion, I hear it a lot. Matt Walsh articulates it well. I love Matt Walsh, big fan. He said, Americans are suffering. 

It's way too expensive out there to live for most families. Our cities are not safe. Our country's being transformed every day by foreign migration. Our elections are not secure. The SAVE Act was not passed and won't be passed. Okay, I agree with all those problems. 

Then he says, it's time to end this war on Iran and focus on our country, our people, our future. Far too much of Trump's second term has been spent on foreign adventures. It has to end, turn the attention back home. Matt Walsh and I, same team, not a criticism of him at all. First of all, MAGA does not mean non -intervention. It does not mean isolationist. 

It means what's in America's best interest, and that may sometimes involve foreign adventures. That's the first thing. Second, the economy, the country doesn't work. where something only happens if Trump is staring at it, and if Trump's not staring at it, then the thing does, everything else stops. The best example I can think about this, to make this clear, is let's say the Memphis Safe Task Force. Matt Walsh talked about our cities aren't safe. 

Memphis Safe Task Force. It's not like because Trump is looking at Iran right now, at the moment, he's staring at it, that the Memphis Safe Task Force over here is just at a standstill. We can't do anything, we're stuck. Why not? 

Why can't you guys do anything? 

Well, Trump's not staring at us at the moment. We have to wait till Trump's staring. Well, can't you just do what you told you to do? No, we can't do anything. We can't. We have to stop here. 

Oh, wait, he's looking at us now. Okay, back to work, everyone. And then for like a couple hours, Trump's looking at us. at that. And then he got to stop his work. He's back on Iran. 

He tweeted about Iran. We're done. We can't do anything anymore. All these things still happen. Trump, Trump's the CEO. So he has, I don't know how many buildings he ever had, like 50 buildings. 

Maybe he doesn't. It's not like when he's working on one building, all the other buildings are like, ah, we're closed. No, you can't stay here, can't golf here. Sorry, Trump's not staring at us at the moment. No, Trump says, you go fix the thing. You're in charge of that building. 

You're in charge of that building. Go get it done. So there's just this frustration that people have about the Iran war, again, not looking at it objectively. And you could be against Iran or what Trump's doing in Iran. You could be against it. But I don't think it's a fair or wise argument to be against it because, well, we have other stuff at home to focus on. 

Like, yeah, of course we do. Those things are still being done. A couple weeks ago, we talked to a guy who's running a mine for rare earth metals in Arkansas. He's still doing that. They're still mining for rare earths in Arkansas. It's not like he's like, ah, president's not paying attention to me at the very moment. 

I guess I'll just sit at home and do nothing. Like things are still going on. Berta wrote me a note. She said, as for things not getting done, if Trump's not looking directly at them, I have a way to dumb it down. If you load your dishwasher and turn it on, you don't have to stand over for two hours while it runs. Oh, Berta, that's so good. 

It's the same with the washing machine and dryer. If you hire someone to do a job repairing a car or your house, you can go about your business while the job gets done by someone else. Trump hires competent people and delegates jobs and they usually get it done. Well done, Berta. Perfect. Okay. 

That really had nothing to do with this so much as I just wanted to get those. Alright, what's broken about the current moment? People are very anxious about war. That's what I want to talk about here. People are very anxious about war. I want to tell a story. 

1 Samuel 15. So you've got the prophet Samuel and you've got the king of Israel Saul. We'll start in verse 3. God told Samuel to tell Saul, now go and strike Amalek and devote, like a town, a city, and devote to destruction all they have. Do not spare them, God says, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey. I want to share this because people get very uneasy about the scripture. 

You often hear people who are not Christian criticize Christians for this story right here. Now I skipped over the first part. Let's go to first Samuel 15 verse two. Thus says the Lord of hosts. I have noted because you think, well, why, why, why, why, why kill everything and everyone in Amalek? What's up? 

Well, God says, I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up from Egypt. This was a total judgment against the Amalekites. because of something they did centuries prior. They were the first people to attack the Israelites when they left Egypt. Bible talks about this a couple of times. Exodus 17, 14. 

Then the Lord said to Moses, write this as a memorial in a book and recite it in the ears of Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven. And Moses built an altar and called the name of it. The Lord is my banner saying a hand upon the throne of the Lord. The Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation. Jeez, what are the... What did they do again? 

What did the Amalekites do to the Israelites, to God's people? Here's Deuteronomy 25. on the way when you were faint and weary and cut off your tail, like the back of the caravan, those who were lagging behind. And he did not fear God. Therefore, when the Lord your God has given you rest from all your enemies around you and the land of the Lord your God has given you for the inheritance to possess, you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven. You shall not forget. 

" So here we are. The Israelites are, time has passed, and this is the time to do it. The Amalekites, to do what? Enact God's judgment. The Amalekites attacked the weakest of the Israelites, the youngest, for no reason. They just killed them. 

God hates it when the strong take cruel advantage over the weak. So let's go back to 1 Samuel 15, verse four. So Saul summoned the people and numbered them, 200 ,000 men on foot, 10 ,000 men in Judah. Saul came to the city of Amalek and lay in wait in the valley. Then Saul said to the Kenites, go, depart, go down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them. For you showered kindness to all the people of Israel when they came out of Egypt. 

So the Canaanites departed away from the Amalekites. So this is great. So the Canaanites, Saul says, Hey, we're not, we're not going to attack you. You go, go get out of the way. Because the Israelites, they don't want war for war's sake. And if I may, neither does Donald Trump. 

He doesn't want war. And the Israelites didn't want war here. They're like, you people go, get out of the way. Verse seven, and Saul defeated the Amalekites. And he took Agag, the king of the Amalekites, alive, and devoted to destruction all the people with the edge of the sword, but saw in the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and the fattened calves, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them. All that was despised and worthless, they devoted to destruction. 

" Uh -oh. 

Saul did not obey God. He did not destroy the Amalekites. He spared the king. I don't know why exactly, but he didn't. The armies back then were paid by plunder, but God said, destroy everything. They didn't. 

They destroyed the things they didn't want. They destroyed the useless things, the worthless things, but they kept the best of everything. They kept what they wanted. That's true for us too. We all have no problem obeying God's commands that are easy. But what about the commands that cost us something? 

That's when most fail. God said, I regret making Saul king. And because Saul did not kill all the Amalekites, they kept popping up in the Bible. They kept having to fight him over and over again. 1 Samuel 30 in your Bible might be entitled, David destroys the Amalekites. He had to fight them all over. 

And in 2 Samuel 1, this is the story of Saul's death. The man who pushed that sword in the final blow to kill King Saul was an Amalekite who Saul was supposed to take care of already, but he disobeyed God. So one point that people make here is that if you don't obey God completely, what you don't take care of will come back to haunt you. But I want to share this story here because people have a tough time with God calling on a people to wipe out an entire group of other people. It's God committing genocide. How could your good God do such a good thing? 

It's very simple because they were a wicked people. So I would advise everyone who has a tough time with this scripture to take note of what God can do to a wicked people. I don't want to follow any God who could do... Okay, but he can. That's God's judgment. You're going to question his judgment. 

I would advise you to not. Now on judgment, when Samuel did kill Agag, he said, as your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless. God hates wanton killing. Now what actually is shocking is not God's wrath. That's not shocking at all. What's shocking is his love for us. 

God said the wages of sin is death. There should be no surprises there. But the fact that we can be made alive in Jesus, that's the absolute miracle. But back to the questioning of, of God's judgment. I think of Job 38, I recommend you read it all often 38, 39, 40. And the gist of it is God saying, who are you to question me, Job? 

Starts off, where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? And it just goes on beautifully to describe all these other things that prove that God is God. And it ends with, shall a fault finder contend with the Almighty? He who argues with God, let him answer. Go ahead, your turn, Job. Humans have, you know, I say partial knowledge, not zero knowledge, basically. 

The faintest amount. God has complete total knowledge and authority. Who are we to question him? The story of the Amalekites and his judgment. Now today, I know war is anxiety inducing, but we must trust that God has it under control. We must pray, but know that nothing thwarts God. 

No evil will get in God's way. I'll end with Psalm 2. Why do the nations rage? So the kings all gather up. They're like, Oh, let's, let's do this against God saying, let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us. Okay. 

What's God's response? I've set my king on Zion, my holy hill. If that God is, sounds like a mean God that you, uh, I recommend you worship him. YouTube . com slash at politics by faith. YouTube . 

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Never Leave A Man Behind: Rescued Airmen and Aristarchus
Politics By Faith, April 7, 2026

It is essential that every servicemember knows that, in America, we never leave a man behind. That hasn't been the case lately. But with the rescue of these two airmen, every servicemember knows it's true once again. Let's learn from the Bible about this principle from the life of Aristarchus.

 

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