So, I guess cloud seeding is a thing. It's a thing that happens in America, and we had zero conversation about it. Is this a step too far in "playing God"?
Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks so much for being here. So give me a little heads up on something that's going to happen here that you're going to hear. We recorded yesterday a TV special on the flooding in Texas. We had two spectacular guests. Tom Askell wrote a book about his sister who was dying.
She had six months to live. And throughout that process, he wrote letters on grieving and suffering, and he put it together in a book, and it's called Suffering with Joy. And he had some perfect insight into why bad things happen and how we should work through it and trust God, love God throughout it. Then we talked to the professor of Wittenberg University
whose son, nine-year-old son, died suddenly. He was perfectly healthy, came down with some weird disease and within 36 hours he died. And he wrote a book about that too. And we talked to these two men who've lived it and they were just perfect. But we had three guests on the show that we recorded that we will release here. Our first guest was there. He was, he was at the, or he saw the flooding was how I understood the guest.
So I was like, Oh, that'd be interesting. We'll talk to this guy about what he saw and all that. And he had some interesting points. He was a former boxer, so he had some good stuff to say about life and being tested and all that. But really early in the interview, as you'll hear soon when we release it,
he said, yeah, I was there Slater, and I saw the clouds and they were dark, and I've never seen a light these clouds. And I saw with my own eyes, I saw lasers in the clouds. And he went on and he said, I believe that this was cloud seeding. And I said, oh, gee, okay.
Now you'll see in the interview, I think I pivoted out pretty good. They get it pretty good. Pretty good. Let's I did pretty good. Pretty good. Let's move away from that point and focus on something else. He brought it up three more times.
Cloud seeding. Now a little background. When I had my three hour San Diego show and it was me, Eric, and Miles. We had a ton of fun. It was a couple years back.
Every April 1st we would have conspiracy theory day. And we'd open up the phones for three hours and anyone could call in with a conspiracy theory, but you had to really believe it. So you couldn't call in and say, Oh, I heard that some people believe in that the earth's flat. No, no. You had to call in if you believe the earth was flat. And we had people call in and it was awesome every single year we did it.
Tons of fun.
And there was always a cloud seeding guy in there with the chemtrails, right? Tucked in kind of in the same thing, but there's always a cloud seeding guy. So every year the three of us would each pick one, two, and we would do a presentation on a conspiracy theory as if we believed it. And director Eric one year picked cloud seeding. Since then, he has been actually convinced
and telling me all the time that we are cloud seeding. And I always laughed at him and it became this big joke and that was the end of it. Well, it wasn't the end of it. Color me surprised when I came across this clip on the Will Cain show when he was talking to the CEO of Rainmaker Tech Corporation.
People can listen to longer form interviews that you have done about some of the safety and research you've done on what you use to cloud seed. Now, I want you to please address a larger question, which is one that is somewhat broad and perhaps even religious. But are you playing God?
Are you messing with things that you shouldn't be messing with when it comes to the weather?
I get this question all the time, and I totally think it makes sense to ask it. My intention is to serve God. I think that in Genesis 1, 26 through 28, and then throughout the Psalms and the rest of the Bible, God tells us to take dominion over and steward creation
both for our sake, creation's itself, and then to honor him. And so if there are droughts, and we have the tools to mitigate the damage done by them for our sake and for nature itself, then we should deploy those for the sake of tending to and stewarding the world. And if we weren't to do that, if we were to ban cloud seeding wholesale, despite knowing that it's safe, despite knowing it could help alleviate these problems, we'd be abdicating
our God-given responsibility to be stewards of the world.
Okay, let's address what...
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. So we're actually cloud seeding? We just brushed, we just blu-ray past this? It went from crazy conspiracy theory to we're doing this? And we never had a conversation? Now surely this guy and his company that did cloud seeding in southern Texas just two days before this horrible flood, surely they had nothing to do with each other, right?
Right?
The question is whether or not Rainmaker cloud seeding on July 2nd contributed to storms that occurred on July 4th. Did it enhance? Did it intensify what we saw some 36 to 48 hours later?
Unequivocally, our cloud seeding operations on July 2nd did not impact the flooding that occurred later. And that said, my heart and prayers are still with all the people of Texas and all the families that have been affected. It was a tragedy.
But in cloud seeding on the 2nd, one, we are regulated by the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation. And we have what are called suspension criteria, where if there are National Weather Service flash flood warnings or severe storm warnings, then we cannot operate in those areas per the restrictions and regulations we have.
Our meteorologists actually proactively suspended operations a day before the National Weather Service issued a flash flood warning. So we were ahead of the curve.
Huh.
Now, I am not suggesting that this guy did have anything to do, that these guys' cloud efforts had anything to do with it. I don't know. I don't think so. But I can't get past the fact yet
that we're actually doing this and never talked about it. Now we're gonna spend more time on this on my series 6 AM show tomorrow. Let me, let's get to the biblical part here. This brings up a very important question about playing God. It's an interesting expression, isn't it? Play God. It's always don't play God. No one's ever like, we should go play God. Even though people may be doing it, no one's like happy to do it. Why don't know, maybe he is.
Maybe people do, why say that? Of course, maybe people do love to play God. They think they are God. The idea of playing God means to take control over something that you shouldn't be taking control over. Or thinking you have control over something
that you actually don't have control over. And it gets out of control, at least out of your control. Frankenstein was written in 1931. All right. So Frankenstein makes this monster of all these dead body parts and brings it to life. And he's so horrified by what he created that he abandons it into the world and it goes on and creates havoc.
Of course, it's kind of where this idea came from of playing God. But I thought about it for a while. Have we played God before? Like, so we're talking about weather, you know, making it rain for drought to stop the droughts. Well, is building a canal playing God?
Is building a dam playing God? You're creating a river where there wasn't a river or you're creating a river where there wasn't a river or you're creating a lake where there wasn't a lake. How about in medicine? Is medical treatment playing God? James was in the NICU for a couple weeks when he was born. Were we playing God? Goodness, what's the line? Now Christian ethicists have thought about this.
They've come up with many different parameters. There's such thing as, when it comes to medicine, ordinary treatment versus extraordinary treatment. But even that's a blurry line. If you saw my James sitting there for weeks, you would think that's pretty extraordinary treatment to keep him alive. Let's go back to what I know, because there's so many, I don't know the answer to that.
So I got to go back to what I do know. He brought up Genesis 1, Genesis 1 26. Then God said, let us make man in our image, according to our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.
Here's my first point, and maybe my only point for now. Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. I've heard this argument about marijuana. I remember back in the day, we were talking about legalizing marijuana, which we shouldn't have. And I argument about marijuana. I went back in the day of time I legalized marijuana, which we shouldn't have. I think I know I know I made the argument that we should sure it'll eliminate the cartels. Man, was I wrong. But the argument, some people
potheads made the argument, uh, Hey, it, God made it. God made it. So it must be good. It's natural. Okay. But I mean, there's a lot of things that are natural, doesn't mean you shouldn't. Lust may be natural in our fallen state, doesn't mean it's good. Hedonists would say it is.
If it's natural, it's good. Just because we can seed clouds or clone humans, doesn't mean we should. I don't think it means we should any more than we have nuclear weapons, so we should use them. The word dominion, rule, to have reign over.
That's great, but God is still in control. And we have to act, just like we do with our money, like stewards over the earth. You have the money, you did things that earned the money, sure, but really it's God who's in control. And we have to have dominion over the earth, sure, but really God is in control. We're stewards of it, which doesn't mean we do what we want. We're the caretakers. We manage the earth responsibly in a way that reflects God's character.
And one aspect of God's character is wisdom. Is it wise to do this? My instinct says, no, probably not. But then I'm sure back in the day, some people said, Hey, we can move water from over there to here. If we just build a canal and some people said, oh, we can move water from over there to here if we just build a canal.
And some people said, oh, you're playing God, you can't do that, you're affecting the earth. Probably people do that. Is this just the next iteration of that? Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. We can now put computer chips in people's brains.
Elon Musk can do that now. See the other day, Grok, the AI, Twitter's AI or X's AI. It went a bit haywire. And I got all anti-Semitic. And now they're rewriting the code, so it doesn't do that anymore. I don't know, maybe we shouldn't put computer chips
in people's brains controlled by Twitter. Like we can, we can do that. We can do it right now. It's being done, it's in people's brains. We have Elon Musk's computers are in people's brains right now.
As we speak, I don't know if you know that. They start off with people who are paralyzed and people can just think things with their brain and move the things on the computer and stuff like that and now they're gonna move on to people who are blind and they're gonna add this computer chip and people can see okay so they're doing it you can should you that's my first point just
because you can doesn't mean you should. I guess the second point is we're stewards of everything and we have to show God's character in everything we do and one of God's characteristics is wisdom. Third point, this is the comforting fact as we move into the unknown, is God is in control over everything. I told a story on the radio today, we're talking about heroes and told some stories of some men, young boys,
young men who did incredibly heroic things in water. And I just told a quick little aside. I was swimming my whole life, swimming in college and swim with the kids the other day in the deep end. And I was like,
I wonder how long I can tread water these days. And I'm out there treading. I could do this all day. I could literally tread water for 24 hours. No problem. Zero energy exertion. I could tread water all day. And then I said, I wonder if I could tread water with one of my kids. So Johnny jumps in and he's five and he grabs onto me and I was like, Oh, this is tough. This is harder. I wonder if I could do this for an hour. Could I tread water and keep both of us alive? Let's say we were in the middle of the ocean. Could we both stay alive? If a boat was coming in an hour to rescue us, could we float in the water for an hour?
That's tough. Then Jack jumped in, he's eight, and I was like, ah, nope. I had two kids. I don't think I could do it. And then of course, waves, aside, is water is powerful.
Water is a powerful force. Kathleen wrote me a note. She said, you know, God can tread water forever and walk on it too. I apply that here because God can do anything and God can protect us from it.
God can fix our mistakes and protect us from ourselves. And in all the cases that I've brought up in this episode, I pray you guys. MikeSlater.Locals.com. MikeSlater.Locals.com. Transcript, commercial free on the website. MikeSlater.Locals.com.