MikeSlater
Politics • Spirituality/Belief • Culture
Tucker Fired from FoxNews!
April 24, 2023

Today's episode of Politics by Faith is about FoxNews firing Tucker Carlson. There is a relevant story for us here about betrayal, courage and contentment.

We're now including the transcript below, (hopefully, you find that of value) in addition to the podcast here on Locals before it's available on iTunes etc.


Welcome to Politics by Faith, I'm Mike Slater. Thanks for being here. Tucker Carlson no longer at Fox News. Dan Bongino was also fired or let go or left Fox News. Also as I'm recording this podcast here, Don Lemon was fired from CNN. What is going on? We're gonna focus mostly on Tucker today. One of the difficult parts of this podcast is what story to pick. I was going to do it on Joe Biden announcing that he's gonna run for president again, which is just bonkers to me, and a new NBC poll said 70% of Americans do not want Biden to run for a second term.

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70% of Americans are like, don't do it, but he's gonna do it anyway. But we'll save that for another day. I'd rather talk about Tucker Carlson. Again, Don Lemon wrote this. He says, I was informed this morning by my agent that I've been terminated by CNN. I'm stunned. After 17 years at CNN, I would have thought that someone in management would have had the decency to tell me directly.

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At no time was I ever given any indication that I would not be able to continue to do the work I've loved at the network. And he was given like a week off for some misogynistic things he said. They're like, everyone knew you were on the fritz, Don. It's clear that there are some larger issues at play. With that said, I want to thank my colleagues and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's Don Lemon. I don't care about Don Lemon. And Bongino, it seems like they left on fine enough terms. I don't know.

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But the Tucker is what I'm most fascinated by. He is the number one cable news show. Number one show. Fired. That is something. I don't know, maybe it's because I'm in the industry. I'm a guppy compared to Tucker. So maybe I'm extra fascinated by this or it's because I'm a big fan of Tucker. I was not a fan a couple years ago and then maybe I was just jealous, I don't know.

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And then I became a bigger and bigger fan over time. And now I think his opening monologues are wonderful, terrific. And I'm fascinated by him as a person, which we'll get to in a little bit as well. But I still think this is relevant for all of us because we all watch cable news, or we all watch the news. But also, any of us can be fired at any moment. There's a story there, too, and that causes anxiety.

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The idea that you get laid off tomorrow, and be like, oh, last day was on Friday. That causes anxiety, and that's what we are here to try and alleviate, that anxiety. So let's get to it. Let's talk about Tucker Carlson. What's going on? So a couple things are interesting about Tucker Carlson's childhood. First, his dad was an orphan, grew up in the home for little wanderers, that's a real name, and then went on to become a successful business man.

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His mom and dad divorced when he was nine years old and his mom moved to France. No, excuse me, when he was six, Tucker was six, and his mom moved to France and that was it, they never talked to each other. Never talked to each other ever since then and she died relatively recently and he got a phone call about how she died and part of him was worried that maybe he'd like have a breakdown because of his like non-existent relationship with his mom but he didn't at all and he said over decades I came to terms, came to peace with the fact that I don't know this woman and she's not my mother. His dad remarried and that woman it became her mother And he never talked to his mom ever again, but he learned a really important lesson from from that abandonment I think Turned it into something as good as one could turn it into here He is talking to Megyn Kelly and so I didn't want that I wanted a totally happy family where everyone's close and everyone's named after someone else and like everyone gets together all the time.

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And I've had that. And it's the greatest thing in my life. And I really do not take that for granted. And the second thing is criticism from people who hate me doesn't really mean anything to me, I think. It really doesn't. I care what the people I love think. I care deeply. If my wife is upset with me, I can't even function because I care so much about what she thinks.

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And my children, same thing. My close friends, I have a bunch of lifelong friends, people I work with, I feel that way about them, too But like some random, you know, the ADL doesn't like me or something. Mm-hmm Partisan who runs it like I don't care. Why would I care? I'm not giving those people emotional control over me Well, I've been through that I live through that as a child. I'm not doing that again One thing that I admire of Tucker's he grew up upper-class He'll tell you that and that's my point, he'll be the first to tell you that and he doesn't pretend otherwise. You get a lot of people in politics who grew up wealthy and they pretend to be the coal miner.

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Joe Biden literally talks about how he or his parents were like coal miners. They weren't, they literally were not coal miners. But they do this game, right? And Tucker's like, no, I grew up really wealthy and I therefore know these people. I've interacted with these people, I've lived next to these people, I've spent time with these people, I know these people and they're not good people and they're not people who we should be in charge, let in charge of our country.

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I admire that perspective and that honesty from him. He's been all over cable news, CNN, had a show on MSNBC, the whole thing. I heard an interview with him a while back and the person said, oh, here we've got Tucker Carlson, number one show on cable news, and Tucker interrupted and said, yeah, well listen, I've also hosted the lowest rated show on cable news. Right now I have the highest rated show. I've also hosted the lowest rated show.

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And he talked about, just, you know, sometimes you're up and sometimes you're down and it's just the timing of it all and who knows. Isn't that wild? I mean, Tucker Carlson used to host the Fox and Friends weekend. Like, I don't know, like, and then he gets the 8 o'clock show, and he's the number one by far. Very interesting.

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But he talked about how you can't be prideful when you're up, or depressed when you're down. You just keep going. Now, even when he's up, I mean, his show, about three million people would watch his show every night, about three million. Number one on cable news by far. A lot of cable news shows are two or one million. That's nothing compared to broadcast news. You know the number one broadcast news?

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I don't even know what time it is, six o'clock? Is it six o'clock news, seven o'clock news? ABC News, David Muir, 7.5 million people. So more than twice as many people who watch Tucker Carlson watch ABC World News tonight I haven't seen a broadcast news In like 20 years. I don't know what time they're on I've never even seen a clip of one like clips from the broadcast news don't even make it Out of the broadcast news. I don't even on Twitter or Facebook. I don't even see like oh, did you see a segment the other day I say nothing I didn't even know they existed. And over two times as many people watch ABC World News Tonight as Tucker Carlson.

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So, again, that speaks to Tucker's like, yeah, I'm number one, but I could get fired any day now. And he did. There's plenty of verses in the Bible about contentment. But I really like this one from Philippians 4.11. I've learned in whatever situation I am to be content. I know how to be brought low and I know how to abound. I like that from Paul. Paul, he didn't just speak about being down, he spoke of abundance.

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He knows contentment in times of abundance. Paul knew how to properly abound. When Tucker was number one, it seems like it didn't get to his head because he knew what it was like to be at the bottom and in the middle and then back at the bottom and then unemployed and then start your own thing, the Daily Caller, and then leave that and then, oh, look, you're number one. And it's like, oh, I could get fired.

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And he did, and he seemed always okay with that. Another thing I valued about Tucker is his connection to nature. He lived in Maine. He did the show from Maine. And I think that changes a person. I think, I've always said I think Fox should be headquartered in Tennessee or Oklahoma. It's got to get out of New York City. It changes you.

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New York City changes you. It changes you when you live there, the producers who live there. It can't not affect the content that comes out of the camera to the TV. And Tucker was in Maine. I think that gave him a disconnect from it all. He also didn't have any social media or anything. So he could just do his own thing. And I valued that. And he seemed content. And it took time to go hunting and spend time outside with his dogs and all that.

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I think that affected, I know that affected his show. It had to have. So that's a little about, anyway, he got fired. So I don't know what he's going to do now. But what's really going on here? Before we get to the broader lesson for all of us, I think there's a bit of a cautionary tale. So why was he fired? We don't know. If I had to guess, it's probably because his boss had to pay $787 million in a settlement with Dominion Voting Machines.

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The billion-dollar settlement probably had something to do with it. So the claim from Dominion Voting Machines is that Fox News defamed the company by saying the election was stolen when the Fox News hosts knew that it wasn't really stolen. And through court order, they were able to get text messages that they say proved that the Fox hosts knew that the election wasn't stolen, but they would keep going on the air and saying it was. And we have all these text messages from Tucker. In one text to a producer, he said, there wasn't enough fraud to change the outcome. And he said, Sidney Powell was lying. This is a private text.

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He said he was done with Trump and his unfounded claims of a rigged election. This is just a little bit before, it was two days before January 6th. We're very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can't wait. At another point he said, I hate him passionately. I can't handle much more of this. He says we're all pretending we've got a lot to show for it, the Trump presidency, because admitting what a disaster it's been is too tough to digest. But come on, there really isn't, there isn't really an upside to Trump. So Tucker then said in a radio interview about this, he says, I think this is in the text, and those were all grabbed completely illegitimately, in my opinion, in this court case, which I guess I'm not allowed to talk about, but I'm enraged that my private texts were pulled. So there's context to all of these. He said one of the context when I was speaking badly about Trump was that some idiot called him an idiot on the Trump team sent Tucker names of dead people who voted in Georgia to prove the voter fraud and turned out not to be true. Tucker says we went and I repeated them on air and it turns out some of them were alive so I felt humiliated. So we felt burned by Trump's team from that.

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He says, there was no doubt that, this is in the text, there's no doubt that there was fraud in the election, but at this point Trump and Lin and Powell have so discredited their own case, discredited their own case, and the rest of us to some extent, that it's infuriating, absolutely enrages me. On November 9th, Carlson was talking about Dominion and said, the software, crap, swear word, is absurd. But then on TV that night, he said, we don't know anything about the software that many say was rigged. We don't know. We ought to find out.

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So you see the claim from Dominion. Like behind the scenes Tucker was saying, it was nonsense, but on air, he's like, oh. There's other text. Laura Ingram wrote to Tucker and Hannity, we are officially working for an organization that hates us. That's my favorite one, I like that too. Anyway, he was probably fired because Rupert Murdoch couldn't have the guy on air who was a part of costing him a billion dollars.

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Even if he was the number one show. I've actually, I've been surprised that Tucker was ever allowed to stay on the air. The fact that he was on at all, and the fact that he was on, I guess made me think that they would never fire him. Like if they haven't fired him already, just because of the provocative things that he says that I've never heard anyone else say on TV. I just thought he was bulletproof, but alas.

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Also in the text messages, Tucker swears a lot, and he says the C word a lot. Having a foul mouth is in the Bible as well. Ephesians 5.4, let there be no filthiness or foolish talk, nor crude joking. Ephesians 4.29, let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. Colossians 3.8, but now you must put them all away, anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth. Last one, 2 Timothy 2.16, I like this line, avoid worldly empty chatter.

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Another version has, avoid irreverent babble. For it will lead people into more and more ungodliness. The context here is to avoid false preachers. But I like the idea that the words you say, other people hear. And the words you say can lead people away from what is good, beautiful, and true. Other people overhear you, and you are responsible for that, for what you say. Not necessarily how people interpret it, that's up to them, but the things you say.

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And that's why David, Psalm 141, three says, "'Set a guard, O Lord, over my mouth. "'Keep watch over the door of my lips.'" Especially when people are gunning for you. When people are looking for ways to take you out, and obviously talk at the number one show, he had a huge, like all of media matters, every day was constantly trying to destroy him, right? So when people are looking to do that, you can't give them more reasons.

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You gotta be above reproach. So anyway, that's probably why he was fired was the Dominion stuff and I bet some of the foul language was like a little cherry on top of they could say, oh he was creating a toxic work environment, something like that they could probably get away with. Alright, let's lament here for a little bit. to tell the truth in, actually, let's take a break here. Let me tell you about Public Square. This is perfect timing.

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Public Square is an app. You can download it for free. And it connects you with people who run businesses that share your values. Did you see the other day the VP at Bud Light who was responsible for the whole Dylan Mulvaney thing is on a leave of absence, should probably get fired, which is great. It's like the first conservative boycott I've actually seen make any real inroads and last for longer than a day.

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So that's awesome. Go well, go broke, man, that doesn't happen as much as I'd like it to. So we need an alternate parallel marketplace where we do business with people who share our values. And that's what Public Square does, it connects you with those people, locally and then also nationwide. And I know Michael, the founder of Public Square, and it's a company of people who tell the truth. That's what I just thought of them right here.

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I lamented how difficult it is to tell the truth, and Michael is a man who tells the truth. And he's created this great app and this great company that's thriving, they're going public, it's awesome. So jump in early on it. PublicSQ.com. You can read the five values that every business owner has to agree with. And you can download the app for free. Public Square.

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And they're the first sponsor of this podcast. I'll never forget that. And I've been a user of theirs. I was at their launch party a couple years ago. They're great. Public Square, free download. So I lament how difficult it can be to tell the truth. In the media world, there is a strong pressure for a host to say what they think the audience wants to hear.

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There's a huge financial incentive. It makes sense, right? If I don't say what my audience wants to hear in an entertaining way, then no one will listen. And then we won't sell advertisements and then I lose my job and I can't pay my mortgage. Like, right now, you're like, well Slater, you just did an advertisement. Yeah, I'm not, I think I don't even know how much, I've never even been paid, I haven't even been paid a penny for this podcast.

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I don't even know what that, what I'm getting paid for that podcast, for that advertisement, I literally don't even know. Maybe, maybe, maybe like a thousand bucks over the year. I really don't even know. But if, the bigger you get, the greater that incentive is to make sure you don't lose your audience. Make sure you don't say something that will destroy the business.

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And then if you are running a big company with employees, now you got those families. Like what you say, you can lose everything. And then all these other families are going to be hurt. Oh, the pressure. I wish people wanted to hear the truth. That's it, right? There's always going to be that pressure to say what your audience, you think they want to say. Here, I want an audience that just wants to hear the truth.

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I wish that's what people wanted to hear, even if they disagreed with it. We don't have that, we just want to hear, people agree with us. That's what I agree. That's just what we gravitate to. So that's that, I also lament being fired. I was talking to someone in this industry that I'm in, and he said the company that he works for has a history of just randomly firing people, for just no rhyme or reason.

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It could be the number one host. It could be the number one host on the number one station in the market and they're gone. And for this company, it's just money, dollars, bottom line and no sense behind it, no justice behind any of it. And that stings. But I was talking to him about it and he said, no, it's good in a way because it's made me learn that every day is gravy, every day is a gift.

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Every day I wake up expecting to be fired and I expect every show to be my last. And I actually think that's a really healthy way to go through life because you don't know if today is literally your last day on earth. This weekend, I happened to listen to a speech that Tucker Carlson gave at the Heritage Foundation's 50th anniversary dinner. And I guess, this must have been like a Friday night or Saturday night I guess the dinner and I don't know if he knew he was getting fired on Monday when he gave this talk or not that'd be interesting if he kind of knew in the back of his head but didn't say anything I don't know but he would this is the last question he was asked when everyone wakes up tomorrow whether they're staying here or they're able to go home what should be top of mind for them to do in their local community.

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Oh well the very first thing you should do every single day is tell all the people you love that you love them for two reasons. Because you do in affirming things out loud makes them real. Words are the most important and most powerful thing that we have. And of course I have an interest in saying that I sold Chrysler's I'd be like cars are the most important thing. But words are. In the beginning was the word. And so articulate it. And that is also simultaneously an acknowledgement of a truth that we don't face, which is we don't know what's going to happen today.

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And we could die. That's the one thing that unites every person, is the certainty of death. And reminding yourself of that every single day will bring you, paradoxically, joy. I love you. That's the most important thing. I think that's a really healthy posture. This could be my last. And then when it is taken away, you're like, well, sounds about right.

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Can't believe it lasted as long as it did. Now let's get to some historical and biblical perspective here. Let's start with historical. So I'm on a Jonathan Edwards kick. Jonathan Edwards led the Great Awakening in America. This was in the 1730s and the 1740s. So it was led by, or sparked and led by Jonathan Edwards. So I've been, I think we need another Great Awakening in America. So I'm reading about Jonathan Edwards because I'd like to see the parallels and maybe how we can replicate similarities and differences. So Jonathan Edwards was fired from his job. A vote by the entire congregation, his congregation. This was in 1950. Only 10% of his congregation voted to keep him on the job. He kicked him out. You're gone.

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One of the most brilliant men in American history. Leader of the Great Awakening. His own congregation fired him. Why? Here's what he wrote. He said, a very great difficulty has arisen between my people relating to qualifications for communion at the Lord's table. My honored grandfather, Stoddard, that's who ran the church before him, my predecessor in the ministry over this church, strenuously maintained the Lord's Supper to be a converting ordinance and urged all to come who were not of scandalous life, though they knew themselves to be unconverted." So he said, anyone who is not a Christian, you can take communion. I formerly conformed to this practice, but I've had difficulties with respect to it, which have been long increasing, till I dared no longer proceed in the former way, which has occasioned great uneasiness among my people and has filled all the country with noise. Everyone's talking about it. Everyone on Twitter is talking about it.

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So again, the guy before him said anyone could take communion. And then Jonathan Edwards finally came to the conviction that no, no, only Christians are allowed to take communion here. I'm going to protect the table. So he took a stand. He took a stand on something. He had a conviction. People don't like that. People rarely like it when someone has a conviction. It's odd. Maybe it's because we're growing up, we're living in this soup of, oh, I don't know, everyone each to each his own, beauty's in the eye of the beholder.

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So it's like if anyone makes a stand, oh, you think you're better than us? It's like, oh, no, I just think this is really important and I think this is true. Jonathan Edwards strived for truth and holiness and purity. He was trying to preserve something of great importance. People didn't like that. Even the people of his own church. I want to read this quote from J. H. Thornwell.

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This was in 1846. He was noticing that churches were becoming more liberal. In 1846. I cannot imagine what these guys would have thought of many churches today. I want to read this quote here, but check out the parallels to cable news. He's talking about the church, but similar theme. He said, our whole system of operations gives an undue influence to money. Where money is the great want, numbers must be sought. And where an ambition for numbers prevails, doctrinal purity must be sacrificed. The root of the evil is in the secular spirit of all of our ecclesiastical institutions.

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What we want is a spiritual body, a church whose power lies in the truth and the presence of the Holy Ghost. To un-secularize the church should be the unceasing aim of all who are anxious that the ways of Zion should flourish. That's true about our political system today. Our whole political system, I'm just going to re-read the quote here, but apologies, our whole political system gives an undue influence to money. Where money is the great want, numbers must be sought. And where ambition for numbers prevails, truth must be sacrificed. Having a conviction about anything.

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I want to be a people, I want to, me personally, I want to have convictions. And I want to be a part of a group of people that have convictions about things. Who feel strongly about important things. Don't you think that's good? But that's all a bit of an aside. The reason I bring up this is because Jonathan Edwards got fired, and I'm sure he felt betrayed. I'm sure Jonathan Edwards, it's like I gave my life to this church, to you, to you, this congregation, you fired me? I gave so much time and energy to this company.

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I feel like this is a common thing when you get fired to this company, and you fire me just like that? I'm the top salesperson here, I'm the top executive here, I've made this company way more money than you've ever paid me, and that's how you repay me now you fire me like that's got that feeling of betrayal must be common if you are laid off. Biblically of course I think of Judas betraying Jesus. One of Jesus's twelve disciples he was in Jesus's inner circle and he went to the Pharisees he said what will you give me if I deliver him over to you?

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And they paid him 30 pieces of silver. That was it, 30 pieces. So how much was that? Don't really know, I've heard as high as 120 days wages. So a third of your salary. So what, 20, 30 grand, that's it? We're gonna betray Jesus for 30K? Matthew 26, 48, now the betrayer had given him a sign saying the one I will kiss is the man, seize him. And he came up to Jesus at once and said, greetings rabbi.

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And he kissed him. And Jesus said to him, friend, do what you came to do. Then they came up and laid hands on Jesus and seized him, betrayed with a kiss. Back then a kiss was a sign of deep respect and honor and brotherly love. There's an intimacy there. Obviously, you need to get close to the person to do it. And this was one of his disciples. This was a student showing his love to his teacher on the outside but on the inside he was betraying him, leading him to the cross.

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Luke 22 3, then Satan entered into Judas who was one of the number of the twelve. Satan entered into and Satan thought he won. Satan thought he won. Let me show this verse. David obviously was betrayed many times. He said, if an enemy were insulting me, I could endure it. This goes back a little bit to what Tucker was talking about about I only care what my friends and family think of me. I don't care what media matters thinks about me. If an enemy were insulting me, I could endure it. If a foe were rising against me, I could hide. But it is you, a man like myself, my companion, my close friend, with whom I once enjoyed sweet fellowship at the house of God as we walked about among the worshippers." Ah, to be betrayed by a friend or family.

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Job said similar, Job 19, 19, those I love have turned against me. It didn't work out for Judas. Later the Bible says, then when Judas, his betrayer, saw that Jesus was condemned, he changed his mind and brought back the 30 pieces of silver to the chief priest and the elders saying I've sinned by betraying innocent blood. So what is that to us? See to it yourself.

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And throwing down the pieces of silver into the temple he departed and he went and hanged himself. Not a biblical thing but Dante's Inferno, the ninth circle of hell, the deepest circle of hell is for betrayers and this circle of hell is called Judaica, named after Judas, who betrayed Jesus. So Judas is, so betrayal is like the worst sin and the worst betrayer of all. The innermost, lowest, deepest, hottest circle of hell is Judas. Actually, no, I got that wrong. It's not hot down there. Anyway, that's just art. But if you've ever been fired, you have this feeling of betrayal from your employer. Maybe you're even feeling it as a Fox News viewer for them firing a host that you like. All I can say is get ready for a lot more of it.

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In our culture, in our media, from brands like Bud Light, in politics and in life. Maybe you experienced some of that during COVID. You're like, oh, wow, like friends and family, what, really? But as you experience it, because part of societal breakdown and civilizational breakdown is going to be more of these sinful things occur. And one of them is, the worst of them is betrayal. So as it happens to you, know that Jesus was betrayed.

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He knew it was going to happen. God knew it was going to happen. And it was to bring about the greater plan. Satan thought he won. So as you're being betrayed, or if you were, or when you are, God knows everything that is happening to you. And he knows what's gonna happen next. And maybe it's to bring about a greater plan, which you could never understand right now in the moment. None of us can.

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That was Monday's morning motivation, was all about the tapestry, about how we can never understand the moment. We can't turn around the tapestry and see what's being built, see what's being created, see what's really going on. Jesus knew he was gonna be betrayed. He knows everything about what's going on with your life right now, but he also knows what it's like to be betrayed, so go to him.

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Tell him about it. He knows. So, Sleater, what's in my control? First, practically don't text or say anything to anyone ever that you would not want posted everywhere always. So just don't do it. You cannot put anything in writing that you would not share, you would not share it everywhere, that you would not want put on the news.

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And the truth is, anything you text, God sees it anyway. That's actually more important than it going in public. So first thing, don't put anything in writing. Second thing that's in your control, tell the truth always. Just tell the truth. We have to try to resist those urges of, but what about my audience? Or what about this? What about that?

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What about the client? What about this? What about, just tell the truth. Third thing, have courage. Here's another moment from that Heritage Foundation speech that Tucker gave just this last weekend. The truth is contagious. Lying is, but the truth is as well. And the second you decide to tell the truth about something, you are filled with this – I don't want to get supernatural on you – but you are filled with this power from somewhere else.

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Try it. Tell the truth about something. You feel it every day. The more you tell the truth, the stronger you become. That's completely real. It's measurable in the way that you feel. And of course, the opposite is also true. The more you lie the weaker and more terrified you become. We all know that feeling. You lie about something and all of a sudden you're a prisoner of that lie. You are diminished by it. You are weak and afraid. Drug and alcohol use is the same way. It makes you weak and afraid. heavy price for telling the truth. And they are cast out of their groups, whatever those groups are, but they do it anyway.

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And I look on at those people with the deepest possible admiration. I am paid to do that. I face no penalty. Someone comes up to me, you're so brave, really? I'm a talk show host. It's like I can have any opinion I want. That's my job, that's why they pay me. It's not brave to tell the truth on a cable news show, and if you're not doing that, you're really an idiot.

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You're really craving. You're lying on television. Why would you do that? You're literally making a living to say what you think, and you can't even do that? Please. But how about if you're a senior vice president at Citibank? I'm serious. Citibank. And you're making, you know, four million a year. And you've got three kids in Bedford and two are in boarding school and one starting at Wesleyan next year. And like, you need this job, honestly. And your whole sector is kind of collapsing and you know that. There is no incentive whatsoever for you to tell the truth about anything. You just go into little re-education meetings and you're like, yeah, diversity is our strength, that's exactly right.

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So if you're the one guy who refuses to say that, you are a hero, in my opinion. And I know some of them. In fact, my job is to interview them. And I sit back and I look at these people and I give them more credit than I do people who display physical courage, which is often impulsive, by the way. And I'm not denigrating physical courage, which I deeply admire. But you interview people who do amazing things, you know, who rush into the proverbial burning building And like every man is kind of trained from birth to fantasize about what he would do when the building catches fire and you hear a baby crying and so you run inside No one is trained to stand up in the middle of a DEI meeting at Citibank and say this is nonsense and the people who do that, oh Oh, they have my deepest admiration.

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And so their example really gives me hope. It thrills me. I talk to them all day long, people like that. That's the first thing. We should, in this sad moment of profound and widespread destruction of the institutions that people who share our views built, by the way, earlier generations that would agree substantially with every person in this room, they built those and now they're being destroyed.

0:34:50
And oh, that's so depressing. But we can also see rising in the distance new things, new institutions led by new people who are every bit as brave as the people who came before us. Amen. And finally, the things that are in your control. So again, be careful what you put on paper or text. Tell the truth always. Have courage and go to God. Make Him your strength, not your job or anything else. May God your strength. Habakkuk 3.17, though the fig tree should not blossom, nor fruit beyond the vines, the produce of the olive fail, and the fields yield no fruit. Sorry, real quick, I'm just thinking of Tucker in Maine today.

0:35:32
I have no idea what Tucker's, I have no insight to Tucker, or whatever, I've never talked to him before. But I just imagine him in Maine just hunting right now. He's just going for a long walk in the woods with his dogs. At least this vision of Tucker I've created, or what I hope I would be, is wouldn't even care at all. Wouldn't, now it's easy to say when you get paid $35 million a year or whatever, hopefully he's stored some of that away, financially he'll be fine, that's different.

0:35:59
But still you hope he'd be like, you'd hope you'd trust in God enough. And as the Bible says, though the fig tree should not blossom and all these bad things, right? The flock be cut off from the fold and there be no herd in the stalls, even all these terrible bad things, yet I will rejoice in the Lord. I will take joy in the God of my salvation.

0:36:24
God the Lord is my strength. Not my bank account. He makes my feet like the deers. He makes me tread on my high places. Amazing. All right, so final thought here. Final thought to think about. Final thing to meditate on. First let me tell you about Patriot Gold Group, one of the sponsors of this podcast. One of the themes of this podcast, as we just talked about, is you can't rely on earthly things. 100% true. You also have to be a good steward. You also have to make good, wise decisions for your family. And for me, financially, I bought gold.

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And I bought it from Patriot Gold Group. Lots of places to buy gold, I assume. I bought it from Patriot Gold Group. They are the consumer affairs top-rated gold IRA dealer six years in a row. group. They are the consumer affairs top rated gold IRA dealer six years in a row. I've only heard Tucker talk about this. Maybe other people on cable news have, I haven't heard anyone other than Tucker talk about the petrodollar, about how Saudi Arabia and China and other countries are talking about trading oil with something other than U.S. currency.

0:37:38
And that would be the downfall of the reserve currency of the U.S. dollar of the world. And that's a major problem for everyone, literally everyone. I haven't heard anyone talk about that except for Tucker. So listen, what's the dollar going to be worth over time? Zero, right? What's gold going to be worth? It's always been worth something. It's been around for thousands of years. 888-617-6122. Consider it.

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See if it makes sense for you and your family. And as you consider it, definitely call Patriot Gold Group. 888-617-6122 for a free investor guide. 888-617-6122 or their website, patriotgoldgroup.com. Final thing to meditate on, I mentioned earlier this idea that you may lose your job at any moment so be grateful for it when you have it. I'm sure there's many people listening right now who have lost a job and thought it was devastating at the time, but then have a great story that ends with, thank goodness I was fired, otherwise I never would have filled the blank.

0:38:41
And that's a wonderful thing. Let me end with this sermon from Jonathan Edwards, who we spoke of earlier. This was his, I don't want to say his first big sermon, but this was a remarkable sermon. It was at a church in Boston, and it was the same weekend as the Harvard commencement. So there are a lot of big wigs in the audience. Jonathan Edwards was not from Boston, so he was an outsider, wasn't a Harvard graduate, he was a Yale grad, an outsider.

0:39:07
He was only 28, he was young, and he gave this wonderful sermon called God Glorified by the greatness of man's dependence upon him. You can get the theme based on the title. God is glorified in the greatness of man's dependence upon him. And this is the final line. Let us endeavor, let us endeavor to obtain and increase in our great dependence on God. To have our eye to him alone, to mortify, to put to death, a self-dependent and self-righteous disposition.

0:39:44
Man is naturally exceedingly prone to exalt himself and depend on his own power or goodness, as though from himself he must expect happiness. He is prone to have respect to enjoyments alien from God and His Spirit, as those in which happiness is to be found. But this doctrine should teach us to exalt God alone as by trust and reliance so by praise. Let him that glorieth glory in the Lord. Let us not find our identity or glory in our job and may we always no matter what difficulty or suffering we're going through, or uncertainty. May we always look to God for our full and complete dependence.

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We were on Fox & Friends talking about all of the train robberies in CA. It's so bad the train company says they may have to ride right THROUGH Los Angeles entirely and never slow down lol. What a joke this state it.

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In short, The rich get richer, the poor get the handouts and the middle class gets out of town.

This causes these progressive politicians to get even more entrenched.

We haven't hit rock bottom yet.

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Isn't that a fascinating era? We got like 1776, like that's great, I love it, I want to know more, I don't know nearly enough. But what about the 1720s? What was going on there? Or the late 1600s? What was going on in America at that time? And you know, we've all heard of the Puritans, but you ...

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Racist Tropes and Pagan Fools
Politics By Faith, February 6, 2026

Don't fall for the left's fake outrages of the day, especially when they are the ones responsible for the genesis of the racism.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. I'm Mike Slater. Thanks for being here. This is where we take the news of the day and we bring it to the Bible so that we can walk away with perspective and peace. There's new headlines every day, but Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun. So thanks for being here so we can get the true story. 

Sole Deo Gloria. Glory to God alone. Here's the story of the day. I'm going to bite on this Trump fake racist video controversy. Dumb made up controversies don't work like this anymore. Not like they used to. 

but we'll take a minute on it anyway. So what really happened? The president at midnight last night on Truth Social, which I don't know who's on Truth Social. I think it's like just this MAGA universe thing that Trump supporters are on and Trump himself. And this is a place for him to speak to his base, I guess. I don't see the point of him being there, but he's there and he posts a ton of stuff there all the time. 

He puts only the important things on Twitter and then he goes on Truth Social and posts dozens of things all night long. That's how that worked. And last night, among other things, he posted a 62 second video. And it's a documentary. I don't know what the documentary is from, but it's a clip of a documentary about voting fraud. And this 60 seconds of the 62 second clip is all about how easy it is to hack into voting machines, which, by the way, well, now is not the episode for that. 

But Before the 2020 election, a week before, PBS NewsHour ran a whole 12 or 17 minute piece about how easy it is to hack into Dominion voting machines. But that's not here. 60 seconds of hacking into voting machines easy it is to commit voter fraud. At the end of the video, whoever made the original screenplay of the documentary, in their screen recording, the next video automatically went to another video, but only two seconds of it before that screen recording cuts off. That two second video or two second capture is of a different 55 second AI made video made by a MAGA troll guy. 

And it's the Lion King meme it's like it's like the lion king and all the animals in the jungle are have democrats faces on them and then trump comes in he's a lion right and they all bow down to the lion but the first six seconds of that original video that that 55 second lion king movie the first six seconds has barack obama and michelle obama's heads on monkeys After those six seconds, and it has a weem away, a weem away. And then after that six seconds, it goes to Hakeem Jeffries as a meerkat. Hillary's a warthog. And then AOC and Newsom are donkeys, which aren't in, like, whatever. And then Pritzker's an elephant. And Adam Schiff is a giraffe. 

And Chuck Schumer's a zebra. And Zoran Mamdani is a hyena. And Joe Biden's a mandrill, which is another kind of monkey, but that's not racist. And then the lion walks in and has Trump's head on. Okay. It's very silly video, whatever. 

But because Trump's election fraud video or whoever recorded that originally, whoever screen captured that, that video auto -scrolled into this Lion King video. And for the two seconds of it before the screen recording ended, all people saw were this as monkeys. That's what happened. Now, what's broken? Two things. 

First one's just an aside. My second one's my main point. First one is this uptight pretend being offended at racist tropes that no one thinks is racist anymore. I'm not going to make the argument that Joe Biden is racist. Remember when he called Barack Obama an articulate, clean black man? I'm not going to make the argument that we should be talking about The important issue, this is just a distraction. 

Okay, sure, fine. I'm not going to make the argument that someone in Maryland, a Maryland man, was just charged with attempted murder trying to murder Russ Vogt, the head of OMB. Let me quote this. Police say they were called to a Virginia residence after a witness reported that a man wearing a surgical mask and rubber gloves, who appeared to be concealing a firearm under his shirt, was on Russ Vogt's porch. No one in the media was outraged at that attempted murder of a Trump cabinet member. Only a dumb one -second video. 

Where you can make the argument, I think is a fair argument, is that this is a dumb Trump self -enforced error. And I'll hear the argument that all boomers need to stay off Facebook and stop engaging in all boomer Facebook slop. And that goes for even the press of the United States. Boomer Facebook slop on Facebook. I'm redundant. Boomer Facebook slop is awful and should just be avoided at all costs. 

That's as far as I'll go there. But stop falling for the communist tricks that everything is racist all the time. All the communists want to do is divide. All they want to do is rip open old rules. of racism for their own power. No one is really offended by this. 

It's all an act. It's all pretend outrage. Again, self -enforced error politically? Sure. 

Racist? 

Give me a break. All right. No, here's the real point I want to make. What's really broken here is evolution. Slater, what do you mean? How could you possibly bring the Bible into this story? 

Glad you asked. That's why we're here. Do you know where this racist idea came from that black people are the same as monkeys were that came from evolution. It came from the idea that we all evolved from monkeys, but that black people just haven't fully evolved as much as white people have. This idea, this is evolution. This is the wicked, from the pit of hell idea of evolution that comes not from Christians, but from pagans. 

It sort of started in the early 1800s. There's a scientist named Gregor Johann Mendel. He's an Austrian fella. And he was a scientist, a researcher on pea plants. And he did all the hereditary breeding of pea plants. And he's the one who coined the terms recessive and dominant genes. 

From his research, the eugenicists came and took all that and applied it to their eugenics movement, which is all anti -Christian pagan wickedness, which led to the abortion movement, which said we should kill black people and all undesirables. Margaret Sanger was a leader of that. And she founded what became Planned Parenthood. These racist eugenicists, not Christians, said that in the process of evolution, there was a separation in Africa. white people and black people became separate species and Africans are closer in evolutionary terms to the monkeys that we all came from than the Europeans are. Talk about slop. 

That is pagan, eugenist slop. There were some scientists back then who thought that, uh, maybe they wanted to, even if they wanted to say that man sort of popped out of nowhere, even not from a Christian perspective, but like man started first. Uh, there are scientists that believe like the ancient Greek was the first man, but then as they moved around the planet, man degenerated. So monkeys are degenerate versions of original man. So it was all kind of messed up. And then Charles Darwin came along and Charles Darwin said, no, no, no. 

We are all evolved from a single organism that came about by spontaneous creation. He never even tried to explain how that came about. But that little amoeba turned into a fish, which turned into a frog, which turned into a monkey, which turned into a human. Stupidest idea I've ever heard in my life. None of that's Christian. The Christian view of creation eliminates racism because God made man. 

End of story. We didn't evolve from anything. God made man. Then also God made animals and gave us dominion over the animals. We are not animals. We did not evolve from animals. 

We're separate from animals. And God made man in his image, in God's image. Here's the Bible, Genesis 126. Then God said, let us make man in our image. according to our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. 

" Genesis 126. There is an unbridgeable gap between human life and animal life. We did not evolve or as some scientists back in the day believe devolved. No, there's no connection. We are distinct. Humans are distinct in our moral, intellectual, and spiritual capabilities. 

And I love it. These evolutionists, they try so hard. 

They'll be like, Oh, well, look, here's a video of a monkey using a tool. 

Remember monkeys made tool. That's it. Monkeys made tools and they broke a stick. off a tree or found a stick and they stuck it in a hole and they eat the ants off the stick. You're like, I don't know. It's not really a tool. 

Show me when monkeys manufacture a miter saw that can challenge the local DeWalt factory. And we'll talk about monkeys can make tools. It's ridiculous. Made in God's image means humans have a soul. Animals don't. We have reason, morality. 

We are a reflection of God's holiness. Now, of course, then Adam sinned. Then we're an enemy of God. But we can be born again and restore that communion. And we all know this. And if you choose not to accept it, then the Bible says you are a fool. 

Romans or worse, Romans 1 .18, actually not worse. We think of a fool is not that bad. We did a segment on this recently, an episode. A fool back in the Bible meant wicked. But Romans 1 .18 says, Invisible attributes, namely his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world and the things that have been made. So they're without excuse. 

For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their foolishness. were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Not the creator. Therefore, God gave them up to their lusts, to their hearts, to impurity, to dishonoring of their bodies among themselves because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worship and served the creature rather than the creator who is blessed forever. Amen. 

It's Romans 1 18. The world today worships the teaching of Charles Darwin and evolution. And if you're an idiot, if you believe in the biblical account of creation, but in reality, the fools are the evolutionists and woe to them. I'll quote here, George Whitfield. I saw a movie trailer. He said there's a movie coming out about him called A Great Awakening about the relationship between him and Ben Franklin. 

I can't wait for that. And he gave a sermon about Nicodemus, asking questions about being born again. And in that sermon, Whitefield says, Being made in the very image of God, undoubtedly before the fall, man had no other will but his makers. God's will and Adam's were like unisons in music. There was not the least disunion and discord among them. Now he hath a will as directly contrary to the will of God, as light is contrary to darkness or heaven to hell. 

We all bring into the world with us a carnal mind, which is not only an enemy to God, but enmity itself. Praise God that we can be born again. That comes from paganism and Darwinism that says that man is nothing but a beast as opposed to something separate and distinct and made in the image of God. So if you want to reject monkey and black people tropes, whatever, great, reject them and reject Darwinism and paganism because it's all connected. If we stayed away from Darwinism in the first place, we'd be much better off today. But politically, don't be fooled by people pretending to be outraged by it. 

especially when they're the pagans who believe in evolution themselves, which gave rise to this trope and gives it any ounce of power, whatever it still has today. Rejected entirely and acknowledge that God made all humans in his image. And you can be saved so that you can go to heaven and be with God forever. And for that, I want to play one last clip here. I, I don't endorse Jesse Lee Peterson. 

I don't know enough about him to one way or the other, but his YouTube page where the shorts that make the short videos are hilarious because no one is funnier at repeating the question multiple times, over and over. 

And his guests, I don't know where he finds these people, they refuse to answer his question and he just asks it over and over and it's just great. 

This isn't necessarily one of those clips, but it's still a funny clip nonetheless that I just saw the other day. 

Is a human being an animal? 

No. 

Oh. 

Are you sure? 

Uh -huh. So human beings aren't animals? No. 

Well, I mean, that's not debatable. That's science. Humans aren't animals. 

No, they act like animals when they fall away from God. 

I know they act like animals, you're right, those in that fallen state, but they're not animals when they are God. 

that fallen state. You gotta agree. You gotta agree. 

No, I mean, there's no debating. 

I mean, like you learned this in elementary school. 

Humans are animals. 

Oh, you believe that humans are animals? 

That's not up for debate or discussion. 

So do you believe that humans are animals? 

It is. 

You believe that? 

100%. 

You should go back and beat that teacher. Which one? 

That lied to you about that. I went to the number one teacher. public school in the country. 

No, they lied to you. They do act like animals in a fallen state. 

You believe human beings are in a fallen state? You're taking this to a spiritual conversation, but just on a scientifical, what is platform? Humans are animals. 

Humans are not animals. Unlike animals, humans are created in the image of God, so they're not animals. They do all kinds of crazy things like animals, but they're not really animals. I don't know if you know that, but she went to the number one public school in the country. It's a very scientifical school. Mike Slater dot locals dot com is where we put the episode without commercials and the transcript. Mike Slater dot locals dot com.

 

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TX Senate Election and The antichrist 
Politics By Faith, February 5, 2026

The Democrats won a TX state senate race in a district Trump won by 17 points. The lame stream said this is a bellwether for the midterms! In reality, there has never been a less consequential election. But don't forget the Democrat's US Senate candidate and how he justified abortion using the Bible. Woe to him.

Welcome to politics by faith. Thanks for taking time today. I want to talk about this Texas Senate race that happened the other day. And then I want to get to this James Tallarico fella and we'll talk about Mary and Gabriel. That's the plan. So there was a Texas state Senate race last week outside of Fort Worth and a Democrat won it. 

Now Trump won this district by 17 points in the last election and a Democrat won. So the media loved him. This is a bellwether of what's to come for the midterms when the Democrats are going to crush it and the Republicans are going to be crushed. And here we see, even in deep red Texas, we have a Democrat winning this seat that Trump won by 17 points. Would you like to know the full story? Would you like to know what really happened? 

This is a state Senate race that couldn't matter any less. There's no way you could conceive of an election that has less significance than this one. This winner, this Democrat, will not even take office until after the November election. So the same two people, the Democrat who won and the Republican, are going to have another election in November. In the meantime, there will not be any meeting of the Texas state legislature. He will not get sworn in. 

He will not vote. nothing will happen from now until November. He was elected to literally nothing. There was no job that he was elected to. And the people knew that. First of all, there was an ice storm as well. 

So that decreased turnout, but the people knew there was nothing to vote for. He won with 54 ,000 votes. I think she had like 43 ,000 or something. So he won with 54 ,000 votes. The last time there was a real election in this seat, 2022, the winner did not have 54 ,000 votes, but 2 .9 million. And the winner had 2 .4 million. 

So 5 million people voted in this race normally. And in this race, the winner had 50 ,000. There's never been an election in the history of America that has mattered less than this one. Now, what we can gather from this story, and this guy is nothing about Pell Weathers or the Trump administration or anything. What you can gather from this story is that the Democrats are trying to run a new kind of Democrat. We'll put them in the category called bearded white guys. 

Fetterman, now they don't necessarily need beards. It's a little, like Fetterman, I don't think he has a beard, but tough guys, like big, strong, tough guys. Like this guy in Texas was a machinist. You have Fetterman, right? The guy in Maine who turned out to maybe be a Nazi, Graham Platner is running for Senate in Maine. They're running a bearded white guy for Senate in Iowa, Nathan Sage. 

Dan Osborne's running for Senate in Nebraska, another bearded white guy. So the Democrats are trying to shore up their working class white guy union vote play here. Now, is it going to work? Clearly a lot of those guys left when the Democratic Party leaned really hard into the trans queer, right? I mean, they lost a lot of that working class base. Now there's another type of Democrat that that party is throwing out there as well. 

They're trying to run not only bearded white guys, but also Christians. I got to do the air quote Christians. One of these guys is James Tallarico. He's a 36 -year -old state senator in Texas who's running for U . S. 

Senate in Texas, which is great because it's either going to be him or Jasmine Crockett as the Democratic candidate. 

candidate. So the Republicans are going to win in the end, but it's still fun. He, at the top of his bio, he says that he is a Presbyterian seminarian, Presbyterian seminarian. He's leading as a Christian. That's his first, that's my identity is I'm the Christian guy running for the Senate in Texas. I don't know. 

where he's going to seminary or what exactly that means to him. I don't know what he's studying. It's not the Bible. Pro -abortion. So we have a big, big red flag there. And this happened on Rogan. 

He was on Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's been going to church lately. So Joe Rogan doesn't need someone like this around him spouting ridiculous things like this. 

Here is James Tallarico. But I say all this in terms of, in context of abortion, because before God comes over Mary, and we have the incarnation, God asks for Mary's consent, which is remarkable. I mean, go back and read this in Luke. I mean, the angel comes down and asks Mary if this is something she wants to do. And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done. Let it be, let it happen. 

So to me, that is an affirmation in one of our most central stories that creation has to be done with consent. You cannot force someone to create. Creation is one of the most sacred acts that we engage in as human beings. But that has to be done with consent. It has to be done with freedom. And to me, that is absolutely consistent with the ministry and life and death of Jesus. 

And so that's how I come down on that side of the issue. 

Wow. Using the birth of Jesus to justify abortion. Well, Matt Walsh says, this is why I say you cannot be Christian and pro -abortion. Maintaining your pro -abortion position requires you to mutilate the Bible and Christian teaching in unspeakably blasphemous ways. 

This is example 1 ,325 ,000 He's trying to make a biblical argument for abortion. 

Yikes. So, let me play this clip here before we go to Luke, which he said to do. He said, if you look at Luke, and we will, our special that we recorded the other day, that we're gonna come out, I think, tomorrow, here, was about the war on empathy. Hillary Clinton wrote this long article about the conservatives and how conservatives are against empathy. And she quoted Ali Bastaki and Dr. Joe Rigney, and we'll talk to Dr. Joe Rigney, it's great. He was awesome. 

We ran through the whole article with Dr. Rigney. But Hillary makes, in this case, in her article, she makes the argument for abortion from the empathy perspective. And she says, well, why do you conservatives have no empathy for the woman who was raped, who now is forced to have the baby from her rapist? That's always what they go to. I mean, that's like, 0 .00001 % of abortions, but okay, fine. That's what they always go to. 

Here is Allie Beth on the Major Garrett podcast, asked about that argument from Hillary. 

And the moral diagramming of the rape victim who traumatized, feels objectified, criminalized by an offender, does not want to bring a child to term because that would extend all of the things she most felt criminally invasive upon her in the original act of rape. Well, I think all of us would agree that we wouldn't kill a child outside of the womb because he or she was the product of rape. And if we are not killing people outside of the womb because of the circumstances surrounding their conception, then I don't see the moral justification for killing a baby inside the womb because of the circumstances surrounding her conception. The only difference there is time. And are we really killing people based on their location and their age? 

Look, a baby inside the womb is a human being, and he or she should have the right not to be murdered no matter how they were conceived. That's great. Ali Beth is wonderful. There's only one minute left. Let me play the rest of her. 

Let's play her last comment here about empathy itself. The article that Hillary Rodham Clinton wrote had the headline, MAGA's war on empathy. 

Do you figure yourself, do you see yourself as someone who is objectively at war with empathy? No, I don't. I want people to see the vulnerability in what I believe sometimes to be emotional propaganda that gets people to not think about both sides of an issue. And I really want people to approach this as a Christian with this dichotomy of the truth and love. The thing about love that we read as Christians in the Bible is that it is inextricably intertwined with the truth. That's first Corinthians 13, six. 

And so I want us to seek the truth in love, loving other people. while still realizing that order is important, that morality exists, that babies in the womb have value, and that we don't want more Lake and Rileys. 

And so all of this has to play into how we decide on policy. Allie Beth is awesome. First Corinthians 13 6 says, love does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. So let's go back to James Tallarico's claim that Mary, excuse me, Gabriel asked Mary if she would be willing to carry to term Jesus Christ. All right, so let's just go. 

Let's see what it says. Luke 1 11. Well, actually, let's go to this. Luke 1 11 is John the Baptist, but let's start here. Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing on the right side of the altar of incense. And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled and fear fell upon him. 

But the angel said to him, Do not be afraid, Zacharias, for your prayer is heard. and your wife, Elizabeth, will bear you a son and you shall call him John and you will have joy and gladness and many will rejoice at his birth for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. " Now, James Tallarico, this maybe doesn't dispute, debunk what Tallarico said because the angel here is saying that we're going to answer your prayer. So maybe there is some consent here, I suppose. But the angel didn't come down and say, are you sure? Let's jump to the main point. This is also in Luke 1. Now, in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee. named Nazareth to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph of the house of David. The virgin's name was Mary. And having come in, the angel said to her, rejoice, highly favored one. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women. But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying and considered what manner of greeting this was." Meaning if an angel came to you and said, rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you. It'd be like, why? So she was taken back. 

Then the angel said to her, do not be afraid, Mary. I'm not skipping any words here. The angel said, Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son and shall call his name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the son of the highest. And the Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever. 

and his kingdom. There will be no end of his kingdom. There will be no end. That's it. There is no asking permission anywhere in this. I don't even know what he's talking about. 

How could he possibly have come anywhere to that conclusion at all? It says, do not be afraid, Mary. He said, do not be afraid, Mary. You found favor with God and behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son. Not will you please pretty please with a question mark. Just says you will conceive in your womb. 

What is he reading? Let me read a little more. Then Mary said to the angel, how can this be since I do not know a man? And the angel answered and said to her, the Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the highest will overshadow you. Therefore also that Holy one who is to be born will be called the son of God. Then Mary said, behold, the maid servant of the Lord, let it be to me according to your word. 

And the angel departed from her. No question marks. The angel didn't say, will you do this? The angel said, you will. She said, let it be. But that wasn't in response to a question. 

That was just her submission. It's really hard to debunk this because that's not what the text said at all. I mean, I guess that's all you have to do. 

He said, well, let me, it's just so crazy. 

God asks for Mary's consent. 

Where? Which is remarkable. 

I mean, go back and read this in Luke. 

We just did. 

I mean, the angel comes down and asks Mary if this is something she wants to do. 

No, where, when, how, in what way? And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done. Let it be. let it happen. So to me, that is a an affirmation in one of our most 

central stories that creation has to be done with consent. Wow. 

Wow. 

Okay. 

All right. This is interesting. Creation has to be done with consent. 

That's not real because what he's talking about is rape. 

Okay. Now, even if, let's go here. Even if the angel did ask for permission, which didn't happen, just want to be very clear that did not happen, but let's just go with it. That was before Jesus was conceived. What he's talking about is killing God. a baby after it's conceived, after the creation has already taken place. 

Or in Mary's case, she would have the right to kill Jesus after he was conceived, like three months in the womb or something. That is so crazy. 

Listen, all we're asking is for you to stop murdering babies. 

Okay? That's all we want is for you to stop murdering babies. And you really want to do it. and you want to do it so badly you will just make up stuff out of the Bible and that is a dangerous game to play. Woe to you! Now we shouldn't be surprised at this blasphemy at all. 

This Presbyterian seminarian was asked in the New York Times, do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions? Now the answer is not that it's more true than other religions, it is the only true religion. The proper answer is yes. John 14, six, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth, the life. No one comes to the father except through me. I'll never forget this guy who called in my show the other day, like a week or so ago. And he's like a, like a white guy from, he's from California. 

He's like a, like a white guy and he's a Muslim. He said, he's a Muslim. And I said, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. I've never talked to him. 

It's just a guy, like a white guy converted to Islam. 

Right. And, and he said he did it because he couldn't. accept that there was only one way to heaven, as the Bible says. So he went with Islam, I guess. I guess they think there's many ways. I don't know. 

They behead a lot of people who aren't Muslims. I don't know what they... I don't know who told him what that made him think Muslim, Islam is then therefore the way to go. But okay, here's... But I'll tell you, that's what the Bible says. The Bible says there's one way and that's it. 

You may not like it, but I'll tell you this, you cannot reject God's commands. and then expect to go to heaven because that wouldn't be just of God. God says, do this and you'll get to heaven. And then we don't do it and expect that we'll go to heaven anyway. No way. Can't happen. 

Hebrews 10, 26, for if we go now, you may not like what I said so far, but again, I'm not telling you Hebrews 10, Hebrews 10, 26, for if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, this is not just, um, you know, you commit a sin. This is like deliberate. I know what the truth is and I'm going to not do it. After receiving the knowledge of truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, Jesus, but a fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse judgment do you think will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified? 

and has outraged the spirit of grace. For we know him who said, vengeance is mine, I will repay. And again, the Lord will judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Do you think that Jesus can die for your sins? You then blaspheme his word like you just heard from James Tallarico. 

Not not misunderstand or miss or oh you know I oh I misread that no no no I'm a Presbyterian seminarian and I'm gonna blaspheme his word like that. You are spitting in God's face and you're saying nah I don't I don't have to do what you want. I don't have to read your your word accurately. I'm good. So here's that New York Times that I was just talking about. 

Here he is asked by Ezra Klein. How do you think about the competing claims of different religions? Do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions? 

Do you believe there to be exclusivity in these beliefs, that they're incompatible with each other? I believe Christianity points to the truth. I also think other religions of love point to the same truth. I think of different religious traditions as different languages. So you and I could sit here and debate. what to call this cup, and you could call it a cup in English, you'd call it something else in Spanish and French, but we are all talking about the same reality. 

I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us, but I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways, with their own symbol structures. And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism. And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos. And that truth is inherently a mystery. And I think the most destructive thing is when religion becomes an end in and of itself. That's when religion implodes. 

My pastor always told me growing up that religious symbols are like aspirin. In order to work, they have to dissolve. They point beyond themselves. 

If you get lost in the symbols, If you get lost in the words, you're missing the reality that we're all trying to describe and talk about. Yikes. Anti here, it can mean opposite of, but it can also mean instead of. It's very important. It can mean opposite of, it can also mean instead of. So there's the Antichrist, but then there's small a Antichrist. 

There's capital A Antichrist and there's small a Antichrists who present themselves and they present themselves as, as Christians, as Christ followers, as Presbyterian seminarians, perhaps as Christian Senate candidates. They're not. People who would distort scripture in such a way, such a way. that they would make up text like Gabriel asking Mary for permission which to therefore come to the conclusion that abortion is biblical and acceptable and good that is antichrist stuff and we should run from people like this or boldly call them out for exactly who they are mike slater . locals . com transcript commercial free on the website mike slater .

 

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Politics By Faith, February 2, 2026

Jason DeFord, aka Jelly Roll, won a few Grammys this weekend. And then he got in front of a group of pagans and talked about Jesus. Jason seems to be an example of the fruit of righteousness that Hebrews 12 writes about.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. I saw the Grammys. I didn't see the Grammys yesterday. I saw that the Grammys took place yesterday and that a one performer known as Jelly Roll won three Grammys, Best Country Duo, Best Contemporary Christian Music Performance, and Best Contemporary Country Album for Beautifully Broken. Here he is during his acceptance speech in front of a bunch of pagans. 

I know they're going to try to kick me off here, so just let me try to get this out. First of all, Jesus, I hear you, and I'm listening, Lord. I am listening, Lord. Second of all, I want to thank my beautiful wife. I would have never changed my life without you. I'd have ended up dead or in jail. 

I'd have killed myself if it wasn't for you and Jesus. I thank you for that. I thank you for my label, Broken Bow. Country radio, baby! What's up, dawg? Oh, Republic, John McNeely, we did it, baby. 

There was a time in my life, y 'all, that I was broken. That's why I wrote this album. I didn't think I had a chance, y 'all. There was days that I thought the darkest things. I was a horrible human. There was a moment in my life that all I had was a Bible this big and a radio the same size and a six -by -eight -foot cell, and I believed that those two things could change my life. 

I believed that music had the power to change my life, and God had the power to change my life. And I want to tell y 'all right now, Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is not owned by one political party. Jesus is not owned by no music label. Jesus is Jesus, and anybody can have him. have a relationship with him. 

I love you, Lord. 

" Read Hebrews 12 this morning. For consider him, consider Jesus, who endured such hostility from sinners against himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. " You think you have it bad? Let me tell you the story of Jesus. The Bible says, you have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. Jelly Roll, Jason DeFord, this is his real name. 

I don't like calling people by their silly nicknames, but Jason was in prison from a very young age, 16. Jail for aggravated robbery, drug charges, in and out a couple of different times. We were just, maybe an episode or two ago, We talked about Proverbs 27 .6. Faithful are the wounds of a friend. We just did an episode about Alex Preddy in Minnesota, how if he was arrested the first time he got involved in law enforcement, like he should have been, then it could have saved his life. It could have prevented him from being involved in with ICE either a second or a third time, which was the final time before he was killed. 

And we talked about how punishment is good. Discipline is good. And I just read this morning. Hebrews 12. First of all, every sermon I've ever heard about Hebrews 12, it's always on the first part about how Jesus is the author and perfecter of our faith. And that's a great part. 

But I've never heard a sermon go a little further down in the text. Hebrews 12 .5. And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons. My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by him. For whom the Lord loves. He chastens and scourges every son whom he receives. 

When you're going through tough times, here's the authors of Hebrew saying, have you forgotten? Have you forgotten? Don't forget that God is in control of everything. Proverbs 3 11 says, my son, do not despise the Lord your God. or be weary of his reproof for the Lord reproves him whom he loves as a father, the son in whom he delights. Chastening from the Lord is love. 

Webster's dictionary, 1828. I looked at the word chastening because we don't use that in our normal language. Chastening means to correct by punishing, to inflict pain by stripes or in other manner for the purpose of punishing an offender and recalling him to his duty. to reduce to order or obedience, to restrain, to repress, to correct, to purify by expunging faults, as to chastise a poem. So I imagine you write a poem and then you chastise it by making it better, improving it, cutting out words, purifying it. But to people too, the Lord does that, God does that to us. 

Why? 

Because he loves us. Back to Hebrews 12 verse seven, if you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons, for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. " Let's jump to verse 11. Now, no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful. Nevertheless, afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. 

Wow. Jelly Roll, I don't know his entire biography, but clearly he made, he grew up in a terrible home and made bad choices as a youngin, and he paid for it. He was punished properly. And I bet he would say, thank you, God, for the punishment. Thank you for sending me to prison. And Jesus turned his life around. 

We all will experience hard times. We will be punished. God is in control. and it's not pleasant in the moment, but it can yield the fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Spurgeon said, many believers are deeply grieved because they do not at once feel that they have been profited by their afflictions. Right? 

So we had something terrible happen. I've been, I've been chastened by the Lord. Great. Or I mean, terrible, but okay. I get it. Hebrews 12. 

Okay, great. Where's my fruit? I'm ready. Ready for the fruit. Ready for the, uh, where are the good times? Imagine if Jason DeFord was like, all right, God, I went to jail a couple of times, but now I'm out. 

Where's my Grammy? It's like, nah, it's not. And Spurgeon said, well, you do not expect to see apples or plums on a tree, which you have planted, but a weak, only little children put their seeds into the garden and then expect to see them grow into plants in an hour. But you must trust God that the fruit of righteousness will come. If, if you follow Jesus and have been trained by it, if you learn your lesson, and if you do that, everyone can experience the joy of redemption. Just as Jason DeFord said there, Jesus is for everyone. 

And you can experience that joy of redemption. Everyone can the same way that Jason DeFord not only feels it, but knows it. And is so grateful for it that he will go in front of a group of pagans and proclaim the name of Jesus. Mike Slater . locals . com.  Transcript and commercial free on the website. Mike Slater . locals .

 

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