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Zooming Out and then Zoom Back In
Politics by Faith, June 3, 2024
June 03, 2024

This morning on the radio I talked about the importance of zooming out when you are feeling anxious or overwhelmed or in despair. Zoom out to find perspective and peace. But it was William, at the end of the show, while telling us the story of how he was withdrawing from Methadone, who properly finished the process. You have to zoom out, but then, don't forget to zoom back in.

Please pray for William in Pennsylvania.

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Welcome to Politics by Faith brought to you by the Patriot Gold Group. I had a thing planned for this morning, but we'll call it an audible right now. At the end of the show, someone called in William from Pennsylvania and said sometime last week, I think he said he was having methadone withdrawals. He was a heroin addict. Now he's on methadone.

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And something happened where he couldn't get any more methadone and he was going through a major withdrawal. Do you have any experience going through like opium withdrawals or any withdrawals like that? I don't, even alcohol withdrawals. But I have some second hand experience and it sounds absolutely horrific.

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and he's telling the story how something happened and somehow turned on the TV and was on the show. And I don't know what I possibly could have said or what he possibly could have, and I don't even know,

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I don't know if it was my weekly TV show that we do on The First TV or is it the Breitbart News Daily that's on the TV? I don't know what it was even. But whatever he saw helped him get through this withdrawal period. And he wanted to call in and thank me for it. You know, like, pfft.

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You can't, like, what in the world? This was right after, literally the call before this. I think they were late, like, well, it took like two or three phone calls today. The call right before this, someone called in and said she loves the show so much, she's putting me in her will. And I was just joking, but I'd rather,

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I'd rather have helped William in that time than be in this woman's will. But how about those for two phone calls right in a row? But here's why I bring it up here. William in Pennsylvania mentioned two insightful things, at least two that stood out I'm sure there were

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more he said something along the lines of nothing is within our power only God can do it and that's right I mean Jesus said with man what is impossible but with the earth with man that is impossible we got all things are possible I mean maybe that's a little different but I don't think we can do anything like I'm up to school if I don't think we can do anything. Micro or macro. On a micro level, go ahead and make your heart beat. Go ahead and make

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it beat. Right now, make sure it beats. Make the capillaries in your lungs work. Divide your cells. Make sure, remember to divide your cells in your body today. We don't do any of this stuff. You can't do any of it. It's all God. God's in control of all of it. And this really hits home when a baby is growing inside of your wife's womb. Go ahead, man. Make sure that works properly.

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You can't do any of this stuff. It's all God. And I know people take that as like, oh, so we should just sit back and do nothing. Of course not. We all have our roles to play beyond that. But I mean, we're not capable of anything and I'm I'm not the half a step

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away from being a heroin addict like William I'm the different like we did a segment through the day about how I'm I'm showing lack of willpower with ice cream okay you give me some Aldean's vanilla ice cream and just forget it maybe maybe once I get bored of the vanilla I go I really up the anti-anti-anti-gateway drug, then I get into the cookies and cream. But that's why I don't drink alcohol,

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because I know that as soon as I have a sip of alcohol, it's over, it's done. I'd be so addicted to it, I'd be drinking it all the time. And somehow William started doing it and that's it. It's just a super powerful force. And I don't know how much man can get over, but with God, all things are possible.

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I think once you realize that, then you can start to take some steps that move you in the right direction. The second insight that William had is that we can all glorify God. He had a nice line about how he was watching the TV and he could tell that the Spirit was working through me, and it's a beautiful line. But William, you're the one who called in and shared your story,

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shared some of your testimony from what happened to you in your life just the other day and showed incredible vulnerability and humility and in doing, and then gave credit to God in the process. You just glorified God in an incredible way. And we can all do that today.

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And that's the question, when things feel hopeless, what can I do today that can glorify God? I'm just gonna focus on this one thing that I have control over. This morning, every Monday at six o'clock, we have the gratitude segment.

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And people call and share what they're grateful for. And we shared a couple stories, and all the stories had a theme of zooming out. I'm doing this with my fingers. I'm doing the zoom out like on your phone. I think anxiety, a lot of anxiety comes from

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zooming in too much. You just zoom in and then get all in your head. And we just gotta zoom out. Zoom out, zoom out, zoom out, get a broader perspective. We shared the story, D-Day story, and we shared a Ronald Reagan story,

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and then we shared D-Day 80th anniversary's coming up in just a couple days on the 6th. What day is that? That's Thursday. And then we shared a story of the seven-year war from George Washington's perspective back in 1753. So we zoomed out and once you zoom

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out then you get some perspective. And we didn't really finish the story now that I think about it because of William. Now you got to zoom back in. So you're in your head, you're all overwhelmed and things feel hopeless. Okay zoom out, zoom out, zoom out, zoom out. Okay so you zoom out now you get a 30,000 point perspective, okay, I feel some peace now. And okay, now, zoom back in.

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Okay, zoom back in and then focus on what you can do today to glorify God. Thank you God for giving us the opportunity to do that. Man, people are going through some hard things in their lives right now. Some people are going through some hard things. Maybe the only good news in the midst of those is that you can glorify God in the process. If you could pray for William in Pennsylvania, I know he'd appreciate it. Mike Slater dot locals dot com. Commercial free and the transcripts on the website. Commercial free and the transcripts on the website. Mike Slater dot locals dot com.

 

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This is a state Senate race that couldn't matter any less. There's no way you could conceive of an election that has less significance than this one. This winner, this Democrat, will not even take office until after the November election. So the same two people, the Democrat who won and the Republican, are going to have another election in November. In the meantime, there will not be any meeting of the Texas state legislature. He will not get sworn in. 

He will not vote. nothing will happen from now until November. He was elected to literally nothing. There was no job that he was elected to. And the people knew that. First of all, there was an ice storm as well. 

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So 5 million people voted in this race normally. And in this race, the winner had 50 ,000. There's never been an election in the history of America that has mattered less than this one. Now, what we can gather from this story, and this guy is nothing about Pell Weathers or the Trump administration or anything. What you can gather from this story is that the Democrats are trying to run a new kind of Democrat. We'll put them in the category called bearded white guys. 

Fetterman, now they don't necessarily need beards. It's a little, like Fetterman, I don't think he has a beard, but tough guys, like big, strong, tough guys. Like this guy in Texas was a machinist. You have Fetterman, right? The guy in Maine who turned out to maybe be a Nazi, Graham Platner is running for Senate in Maine. They're running a bearded white guy for Senate in Iowa, Nathan Sage. 

Dan Osborne's running for Senate in Nebraska, another bearded white guy. So the Democrats are trying to shore up their working class white guy union vote play here. Now, is it going to work? Clearly a lot of those guys left when the Democratic Party leaned really hard into the trans queer, right? I mean, they lost a lot of that working class base. Now there's another type of Democrat that that party is throwing out there as well. 

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Senate in Texas, which is great because it's either going to be him or Jasmine Crockett as the Democratic candidate. 

candidate. So the Republicans are going to win in the end, but it's still fun. He, at the top of his bio, he says that he is a Presbyterian seminarian, Presbyterian seminarian. He's leading as a Christian. That's his first, that's my identity is I'm the Christian guy running for the Senate in Texas. I don't know. 

where he's going to seminary or what exactly that means to him. I don't know what he's studying. It's not the Bible. Pro -abortion. So we have a big, big red flag there. And this happened on Rogan. 

He was on Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's been going to church lately. So Joe Rogan doesn't need someone like this around him spouting ridiculous things like this. 

Here is James Tallarico. But I say all this in terms of, in context of abortion, because before God comes over Mary, and we have the incarnation, God asks for Mary's consent, which is remarkable. I mean, go back and read this in Luke. I mean, the angel comes down and asks Mary if this is something she wants to do. And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done. Let it be, let it happen. 

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And so that's how I come down on that side of the issue. 

Wow. Using the birth of Jesus to justify abortion. Well, Matt Walsh says, this is why I say you cannot be Christian and pro -abortion. Maintaining your pro -abortion position requires you to mutilate the Bible and Christian teaching in unspeakably blasphemous ways. 

This is example 1 ,325 ,000 He's trying to make a biblical argument for abortion. 

Yikes. So, let me play this clip here before we go to Luke, which he said to do. He said, if you look at Luke, and we will, our special that we recorded the other day, that we're gonna come out, I think, tomorrow, here, was about the war on empathy. Hillary Clinton wrote this long article about the conservatives and how conservatives are against empathy. And she quoted Ali Bastaki and Dr. Joe Rigney, and we'll talk to Dr. Joe Rigney, it's great. He was awesome. 

We ran through the whole article with Dr. Rigney. But Hillary makes, in this case, in her article, she makes the argument for abortion from the empathy perspective. And she says, well, why do you conservatives have no empathy for the woman who was raped, who now is forced to have the baby from her rapist? That's always what they go to. I mean, that's like, 0 .00001 % of abortions, but okay, fine. That's what they always go to. 

Here is Allie Beth on the Major Garrett podcast, asked about that argument from Hillary. 

And the moral diagramming of the rape victim who traumatized, feels objectified, criminalized by an offender, does not want to bring a child to term because that would extend all of the things she most felt criminally invasive upon her in the original act of rape. Well, I think all of us would agree that we wouldn't kill a child outside of the womb because he or she was the product of rape. And if we are not killing people outside of the womb because of the circumstances surrounding their conception, then I don't see the moral justification for killing a baby inside the womb because of the circumstances surrounding her conception. The only difference there is time. And are we really killing people based on their location and their age? 

Look, a baby inside the womb is a human being, and he or she should have the right not to be murdered no matter how they were conceived. That's great. Ali Beth is wonderful. There's only one minute left. Let me play the rest of her. 

Let's play her last comment here about empathy itself. The article that Hillary Rodham Clinton wrote had the headline, MAGA's war on empathy. 

Do you figure yourself, do you see yourself as someone who is objectively at war with empathy? No, I don't. I want people to see the vulnerability in what I believe sometimes to be emotional propaganda that gets people to not think about both sides of an issue. And I really want people to approach this as a Christian with this dichotomy of the truth and love. The thing about love that we read as Christians in the Bible is that it is inextricably intertwined with the truth. That's first Corinthians 13, six. 

And so I want us to seek the truth in love, loving other people. while still realizing that order is important, that morality exists, that babies in the womb have value, and that we don't want more Lake and Rileys. 

And so all of this has to play into how we decide on policy. Allie Beth is awesome. First Corinthians 13 6 says, love does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. So let's go back to James Tallarico's claim that Mary, excuse me, Gabriel asked Mary if she would be willing to carry to term Jesus Christ. All right, so let's just go. 

Let's see what it says. Luke 1 11. Well, actually, let's go to this. Luke 1 11 is John the Baptist, but let's start here. Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing on the right side of the altar of incense. And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled and fear fell upon him. 

But the angel said to him, Do not be afraid, Zacharias, for your prayer is heard. and your wife, Elizabeth, will bear you a son and you shall call him John and you will have joy and gladness and many will rejoice at his birth for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. " Now, James Tallarico, this maybe doesn't dispute, debunk what Tallarico said because the angel here is saying that we're going to answer your prayer. So maybe there is some consent here, I suppose. But the angel didn't come down and say, are you sure? Let's jump to the main point. This is also in Luke 1. Now, in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee. named Nazareth to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph of the house of David. The virgin's name was Mary. And having come in, the angel said to her, rejoice, highly favored one. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women. But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying and considered what manner of greeting this was." Meaning if an angel came to you and said, rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you. It'd be like, why? So she was taken back. 

Then the angel said to her, do not be afraid, Mary. I'm not skipping any words here. The angel said, Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son and shall call his name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the son of the highest. And the Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever. 

and his kingdom. There will be no end of his kingdom. There will be no end. That's it. There is no asking permission anywhere in this. I don't even know what he's talking about. 

How could he possibly have come anywhere to that conclusion at all? It says, do not be afraid, Mary. He said, do not be afraid, Mary. You found favor with God and behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son. Not will you please pretty please with a question mark. Just says you will conceive in your womb. 

What is he reading? Let me read a little more. Then Mary said to the angel, how can this be since I do not know a man? And the angel answered and said to her, the Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the highest will overshadow you. Therefore also that Holy one who is to be born will be called the son of God. Then Mary said, behold, the maid servant of the Lord, let it be to me according to your word. 

And the angel departed from her. No question marks. The angel didn't say, will you do this? The angel said, you will. She said, let it be. But that wasn't in response to a question. 

That was just her submission. It's really hard to debunk this because that's not what the text said at all. I mean, I guess that's all you have to do. 

He said, well, let me, it's just so crazy. 

God asks for Mary's consent. 

Where? Which is remarkable. 

I mean, go back and read this in Luke. 

We just did. 

I mean, the angel comes down and asks Mary if this is something she wants to do. 

No, where, when, how, in what way? And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done. Let it be. let it happen. So to me, that is a an affirmation in one of our most 

central stories that creation has to be done with consent. Wow. 

Wow. 

Okay. 

All right. This is interesting. Creation has to be done with consent. 

That's not real because what he's talking about is rape. 

Okay. Now, even if, let's go here. Even if the angel did ask for permission, which didn't happen, just want to be very clear that did not happen, but let's just go with it. That was before Jesus was conceived. What he's talking about is killing God. a baby after it's conceived, after the creation has already taken place. 

Or in Mary's case, she would have the right to kill Jesus after he was conceived, like three months in the womb or something. That is so crazy. 

Listen, all we're asking is for you to stop murdering babies. 

Okay? That's all we want is for you to stop murdering babies. And you really want to do it. and you want to do it so badly you will just make up stuff out of the Bible and that is a dangerous game to play. Woe to you! Now we shouldn't be surprised at this blasphemy at all. 

This Presbyterian seminarian was asked in the New York Times, do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions? Now the answer is not that it's more true than other religions, it is the only true religion. The proper answer is yes. John 14, six, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth, the life. No one comes to the father except through me. I'll never forget this guy who called in my show the other day, like a week or so ago. And he's like a, like a white guy from, he's from California. 

He's like a, like a white guy and he's a Muslim. He said, he's a Muslim. And I said, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. I've never talked to him. 

It's just a guy, like a white guy converted to Islam. 

Right. And, and he said he did it because he couldn't. accept that there was only one way to heaven, as the Bible says. So he went with Islam, I guess. I guess they think there's many ways. I don't know. 

They behead a lot of people who aren't Muslims. I don't know what they... I don't know who told him what that made him think Muslim, Islam is then therefore the way to go. But okay, here's... But I'll tell you, that's what the Bible says. The Bible says there's one way and that's it. 

You may not like it, but I'll tell you this, you cannot reject God's commands. and then expect to go to heaven because that wouldn't be just of God. God says, do this and you'll get to heaven. And then we don't do it and expect that we'll go to heaven anyway. No way. Can't happen. 

Hebrews 10, 26, for if we go now, you may not like what I said so far, but again, I'm not telling you Hebrews 10, Hebrews 10, 26, for if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, this is not just, um, you know, you commit a sin. This is like deliberate. I know what the truth is and I'm going to not do it. After receiving the knowledge of truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, Jesus, but a fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse judgment do you think will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified? 

and has outraged the spirit of grace. For we know him who said, vengeance is mine, I will repay. And again, the Lord will judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Do you think that Jesus can die for your sins? You then blaspheme his word like you just heard from James Tallarico. 

Not not misunderstand or miss or oh you know I oh I misread that no no no I'm a Presbyterian seminarian and I'm gonna blaspheme his word like that. You are spitting in God's face and you're saying nah I don't I don't have to do what you want. I don't have to read your your word accurately. I'm good. So here's that New York Times that I was just talking about. 

Here he is asked by Ezra Klein. How do you think about the competing claims of different religions? Do you believe Christianity to be more true than other religions? 

Do you believe there to be exclusivity in these beliefs, that they're incompatible with each other? I believe Christianity points to the truth. I also think other religions of love point to the same truth. I think of different religious traditions as different languages. So you and I could sit here and debate. what to call this cup, and you could call it a cup in English, you'd call it something else in Spanish and French, but we are all talking about the same reality. 

I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us, but I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways, with their own symbol structures. And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism. And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos. And that truth is inherently a mystery. And I think the most destructive thing is when religion becomes an end in and of itself. That's when religion implodes. 

My pastor always told me growing up that religious symbols are like aspirin. In order to work, they have to dissolve. They point beyond themselves. 

If you get lost in the symbols, If you get lost in the words, you're missing the reality that we're all trying to describe and talk about. Yikes. Anti here, it can mean opposite of, but it can also mean instead of. It's very important. It can mean opposite of, it can also mean instead of. So there's the Antichrist, but then there's small a Antichrist. 

There's capital A Antichrist and there's small a Antichrists who present themselves and they present themselves as, as Christians, as Christ followers, as Presbyterian seminarians, perhaps as Christian Senate candidates. They're not. People who would distort scripture in such a way, such a way. that they would make up text like Gabriel asking Mary for permission which to therefore come to the conclusion that abortion is biblical and acceptable and good that is antichrist stuff and we should run from people like this or boldly call them out for exactly who they are mike slater . locals . com transcript commercial free on the website mike slater .

 

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Jason DeFord, aka Jelly Roll, won a few Grammys this weekend. And then he got in front of a group of pagans and talked about Jesus. Jason seems to be an example of the fruit of righteousness that Hebrews 12 writes about.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. I saw the Grammys. I didn't see the Grammys yesterday. I saw that the Grammys took place yesterday and that a one performer known as Jelly Roll won three Grammys, Best Country Duo, Best Contemporary Christian Music Performance, and Best Contemporary Country Album for Beautifully Broken. Here he is during his acceptance speech in front of a bunch of pagans. 

I know they're going to try to kick me off here, so just let me try to get this out. First of all, Jesus, I hear you, and I'm listening, Lord. I am listening, Lord. Second of all, I want to thank my beautiful wife. I would have never changed my life without you. I'd have ended up dead or in jail. 

I'd have killed myself if it wasn't for you and Jesus. I thank you for that. I thank you for my label, Broken Bow. Country radio, baby! What's up, dawg? Oh, Republic, John McNeely, we did it, baby. 

There was a time in my life, y 'all, that I was broken. That's why I wrote this album. I didn't think I had a chance, y 'all. There was days that I thought the darkest things. I was a horrible human. There was a moment in my life that all I had was a Bible this big and a radio the same size and a six -by -eight -foot cell, and I believed that those two things could change my life. 

I believed that music had the power to change my life, and God had the power to change my life. And I want to tell y 'all right now, Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is not owned by one political party. Jesus is not owned by no music label. Jesus is Jesus, and anybody can have him. have a relationship with him. 

I love you, Lord. 

" Read Hebrews 12 this morning. For consider him, consider Jesus, who endured such hostility from sinners against himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. " You think you have it bad? Let me tell you the story of Jesus. The Bible says, you have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. Jelly Roll, Jason DeFord, this is his real name. 

I don't like calling people by their silly nicknames, but Jason was in prison from a very young age, 16. Jail for aggravated robbery, drug charges, in and out a couple of different times. We were just, maybe an episode or two ago, We talked about Proverbs 27 .6. Faithful are the wounds of a friend. We just did an episode about Alex Preddy in Minnesota, how if he was arrested the first time he got involved in law enforcement, like he should have been, then it could have saved his life. It could have prevented him from being involved in with ICE either a second or a third time, which was the final time before he was killed. 

And we talked about how punishment is good. Discipline is good. And I just read this morning. Hebrews 12. First of all, every sermon I've ever heard about Hebrews 12, it's always on the first part about how Jesus is the author and perfecter of our faith. And that's a great part. 

But I've never heard a sermon go a little further down in the text. Hebrews 12 .5. And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons. My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by him. For whom the Lord loves. He chastens and scourges every son whom he receives. 

When you're going through tough times, here's the authors of Hebrew saying, have you forgotten? Have you forgotten? Don't forget that God is in control of everything. Proverbs 3 11 says, my son, do not despise the Lord your God. or be weary of his reproof for the Lord reproves him whom he loves as a father, the son in whom he delights. Chastening from the Lord is love. 

Webster's dictionary, 1828. I looked at the word chastening because we don't use that in our normal language. Chastening means to correct by punishing, to inflict pain by stripes or in other manner for the purpose of punishing an offender and recalling him to his duty. to reduce to order or obedience, to restrain, to repress, to correct, to purify by expunging faults, as to chastise a poem. So I imagine you write a poem and then you chastise it by making it better, improving it, cutting out words, purifying it. But to people too, the Lord does that, God does that to us. 

Why? 

Because he loves us. Back to Hebrews 12 verse seven, if you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons, for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. " Let's jump to verse 11. Now, no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful. Nevertheless, afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. 

Wow. Jelly Roll, I don't know his entire biography, but clearly he made, he grew up in a terrible home and made bad choices as a youngin, and he paid for it. He was punished properly. And I bet he would say, thank you, God, for the punishment. Thank you for sending me to prison. And Jesus turned his life around. 

We all will experience hard times. We will be punished. God is in control. and it's not pleasant in the moment, but it can yield the fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Spurgeon said, many believers are deeply grieved because they do not at once feel that they have been profited by their afflictions. Right? 

So we had something terrible happen. I've been, I've been chastened by the Lord. Great. Or I mean, terrible, but okay. I get it. Hebrews 12. 

Okay, great. Where's my fruit? I'm ready. Ready for the fruit. Ready for the, uh, where are the good times? Imagine if Jason DeFord was like, all right, God, I went to jail a couple of times, but now I'm out. 

Where's my Grammy? It's like, nah, it's not. And Spurgeon said, well, you do not expect to see apples or plums on a tree, which you have planted, but a weak, only little children put their seeds into the garden and then expect to see them grow into plants in an hour. But you must trust God that the fruit of righteousness will come. If, if you follow Jesus and have been trained by it, if you learn your lesson, and if you do that, everyone can experience the joy of redemption. Just as Jason DeFord said there, Jesus is for everyone. 

And you can experience that joy of redemption. Everyone can the same way that Jason DeFord not only feels it, but knows it. And is so grateful for it that he will go in front of a group of pagans and proclaim the name of Jesus. Mike Slater . locals . com.  Transcript and commercial free on the website. Mike Slater . locals .

 

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Don Lemon and the Brood of Vipers
Politics By Faith, January 30, 2026

Don Lemon, along with other rioters, was arrested yesterday. He'll play the victim card and tell you that freedom of speech and freedom of the press are under assault. Don't fall for the lies from vipers.

I can't tell the kids not to practice the piano. I can't all day to practice the piano, kids. And then all of a sudden, hey, can you not practice the piano? So he will have to serenade us as this episode goes on. Don Lemon was arrested among other rioters from attacking that church a couple of weeks ago in Minneapolis. You may remember just to jog your memory here. 

Here is one of the rioters who was arrested as well. He's standing right in front of the pastor. 

You get the idea. 

There's a couple dozen people in there. This is the second service of the day. They were just in there pretending to be like a brood of vipers. Pretending to be visitors. And then they all stood up at the same time and did this whole thing. So I don't exactly know what Don Lemon is charged with, but there was talk of charging with the FACE Act. 

And I think we've talked about this before, how just beautifully poetic this is, because the FACE Act passed in 1994 was used as a weapon by the Biden administration against pro -life Christians. And part of the FACE Act, I thought it was the entirety of the FACE Act, but only part. It prohibits the use of force, threat of force, or physical obstruction to injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone obtaining or providing reproductive health services. So you can't get in the way of anyone getting an abortion. I thought that's what it was, but there's another part of the FACE Act. Also still same thing past 1984 that says this all the same stuff, but you can't prevent anyone from exercising their right to religious freedom at a place of worship. 

Bridges. what they did there. get it out of the public square, and you can just have it in your church. And enough Christians are like, I'm okay. Thanks for letting us have it in our church. They don't want it in your church either. 

This may be a good moment to play this video here. There's a little comedic relief as we continue on here. 

Yeah, Don Lemon knew better than to go to a black church. He would have never tried that. It would have been a totally different scenario that would have happened. Totally different outcome. Because we don't play about stuff like that. You're not going to come in and you think he would have got an interview? 

Are you kidding me? He wouldn't have got past the aunties at the front. They would have shut that down. He's not even getting in through the front door. Yeah, we don't play the in the name of Jesus. He wouldn't have got in. 

We're talking about dudes reformed from the streets, given the testimony aunties never gave up on them. You're going to assert yourself into that situation, but I'll be I'm scared to have my phone on ring when I when I'm at church. This is a different it's a different atmosphere. You know, I don't even want to say what would have happened that day, but a lot of righteous indignation would have went down. We would have righteously indignated that whole situation, shut it all down. 

That is very funny. I want to talk on this episode today about Brood of Vipers. A lot of snake imagery in the Bible from the very beginning. One of my favorites is Acts 28, when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks and put them on the fire. A viper came out because of the heat and fastened on his hand. Didn't just give a quick little bite, but it stuck on his hand. 

He just shook it off. And the people said, oh, you must be a God. The snakes in the Bible, just like snakes in real life, hiding. John called the Pharisees a brood of vipers, John the Baptist, which is a very, a brood. A brood is just a group of people. just means family of but it sounds very evil doesn't a brood just have to say it like that you know no one's ever like oh there's a brood of chickens over there it's always a brood and our broods always vipers a brood of vipers jesus and john 844 said unbelieving jews belong to their father the devil let me read this here you brood of vipers how are you to escape being sentenced to hell that's what jesus said Here's an analysis. 

being consumed. Snakes fleeing the fire was a common sight, and Jesus's words to the Pharisees would likely have been called into mind. How could they think they would escape the fire of God's judgment by relying on their own works, which were not at all honest or good? John's and Jesus's calling them a brood of vipers was meant to make them aware of their own wickedness and to call them to repent. A viper in this context is someone who's hypocritical, self -righteous, unrepentant sin. This is Don Lemon doing an interview a couple days after he rioted in the church. 

And there's a certain degree of entitlement. 

I think people who are, you know, in religious groups like that, it's not the type of Christianity that I practice. Tell me more about the type of Christianity you practice, Don Lemon, you and your husband. But I think that they're entitled and that that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy. And they think that this country was built for them, that it is a Christian country when actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom. It's religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male. Does anyone really think that the founding father, not the founding father, the founding grandfather, the pilgrims, does anyone think the pilgrims came to America so that one day Somalis could be free to worship Allah? 

Is that what this is? I got a book right here. I don't even know how this book got here. The kids must have put it on the desk. It's called The American Puritans. It's a great book. 

Highlights five different great of our founding grandfather. No more than that. Ten nine. William Bradford, John Winthrop, John Cotton, Thomas Hooker, Thomas Shepard and Bradstreet, John Elliott, Samuel Willard and Cotton Mather. These guys came over here so that one day people could be free to worship Allah. 

Not ridiculous. 

But that's where this whole freedom from religion. That's where it all that's what it turns into. It's freedom, freedom, separation of church and state, which is totally backwards. And then freedom of religion turns into freedom from religion turns into, I'm going to riot and say, of your church so you can't practice your religion, turns into our founding fathers were here because they wanted everyone to be Islam. 

Pretty much. And so, yeah, I absolutely 100%, but it's an intimidation tactic. And, you know, I said, I don't understand how I've become the face of it when I was a journalist. I do understand that I'm the biggest name there. And I'm also, as I was on with my producers this morning, you know, you and Kylie talk all the time. My producers were saying, I said, how did I become the face of this? 

And my producers said, Don, you're a gay black man in America. 

Oh, yeah. Always a victim. Always a victim. Here's a good example of it. This is Don Lemon in the middle of the riot inside the church. It's a riot. 

It can be a protest outside the church. The second you cross into the church with this intention, it becomes a riot. Here he is interviewing the pastor in the middle of the chaos. Keep in mind, just a couple of weeks before this happened, a couple of months, I believe it was, I think it was like July. There was a transgender murderer who killed two children and injured dozens more and traumatized hundreds more in a church in Minneapolis. Surely this was on their minds. 

So we have these rioters blocking the doors so parents couldn't get to their kids in the other part of the building, screaming in their faces, you're a Nazi, your pastor's a Nazi, screaming at the kids. So it's a satanic stuff. And here's Don Lemon interviewing the pastor. 

What do you think of this? 

I mean, this is unacceptable. 

It's shameful. It's shameful to, to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. 

But there were folks who will say, I have to take care of my flock. 

Listen, we live in a, there's a constitution in the first amendment to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble and protest. 

We're here to worship. 

Obviously not inside of a church, the church in the middle of the service, Don. 

We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities. That's the hope of the world is Jesus Christ. 

I want to be very respectful, but please don't push me though. 

We're here to worship Jesus. That's why we're here. That's why we're here. That's what we're about. Don't you think Jesus would be understanding and love these folks? We're about spreading the love of Jesus. 

But did you try to talk to them as a Christian? 

No one is willing to talk. 

Okay. 

I have to take care of my church and my family, so I ask that you actually would also leave this building. 

You don't want us to chronicle whatever? 

Unless you're here to worship. 

Unless you're here to worship. 

I'm always worship. 

I'm a Christian. 

Well, we're here to worship. 

We're here to worship. 

Okay. 

Thank you very much. So in the interview, Don Lemon's leaning into this guy and the pastor here, I can't even express it, lightly places his fingertips on Don Lemon's arm. 

And that's when Don Lemon says, don't touch me. Because that's the hope of these cities. 

That's the hope of the world is Jesus Christ. 

I want to be very respectful. 

Please don't push me though. 

Don't push me. The pastor's leaning backwards because Don Lemon's in his face. So Don Lemon's in his face, the pastor's leaning backwards, he puts his hand ever so lightly, it's fingertips. Don't push me, always a victim. Breaks into his church, false pretenses, gets in his face while there's danger, it's a very dangerous situation. Don't touch me, don't push me, don't push me. 

The woman who organized this all, the Black Lives Matter rioter, she was arrested too and she was handcuffed and she later said she felt like a slave, always a victim. And this is the problem with this too. This is part of their, I'm not touching. I'm not touching. Every little kid does this to their brother or sister, right? I'm not touching. 

I'm not touching to get a rise out of you. This is part of their trick. They want you to react and then they're instantly the victim. Don Lemon, when he gets out of prison or whatever, he's going to come out and just talk about what a victim he is. Oh, it's so terrible. So they got you coming and going. 

It's part of the trick. So you're just supposed to do the right thing. The solution for you if you're in this position is just to do the right thing. Don't worry about what they want you to do or don't want you to do, or you're trying to think, no, just do the right thing. All right, back to the Bible. He said, therefore, to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him, John the Baptist, you brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come, bear fruits that befit repentance, and do not begin to say to yourselves, we have Abraham as our father. 

For I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham. Even now, the axe is laid to the roots, to the root of the trees. Every tree, therefore, that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Brood of vipers, son of the devil, John says, wrath is on the way. His winnowing fork is in his hand to clear his threshing floor and to gather the wheat into his granary. But the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire. 

You cannot escape the wrath unless you repent. That's it. It's the only way to escape. God will forgive your sins and remove his wrath. The Bible says there's no more condemnation for those who repent and receive forgiveness. Being a Brutiviper in the Brutivipers, son of the devil, your father is the devil, Jesus and John the Baptist all saying the same thing here. 

You must repent. 

You must make Jesus Lord of your life. We'll end with that pastor in a more calm setting, claiming the only solution to all the problems in the world. Yeah, you know, my message for Don Lemon, my message for the agitators is that one thing I think that we have in common with at least some of the people who came into our building is that we're heartbroken over what's happening in our cities right now. There's a lot of pain in our cities, and we need healing. We're asking for God to send healing. and we believe that healing comes ultimately in Jesus Christ. 

And so what I preach, what we preach, is that God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life. And so my message to those agitators, my message to the governor of our state, to the state attorney general, my message to both mayors of our cities is to turn from your sin, Trust in Jesus Christ and be safe. 

He is our only hope. MikeSlater . Locals . com. Transcripts commercial free on the website MikeSlater .

 

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