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The Differences Between Trump and Biden Voters
Politics By Faith, June 11, 2024
June 11, 2024

Pew Research released a study on the drastic difference in the worldviews of Trump and Biden voters. Two questions in particular showed the root of our problems in America. And it all goes back to Genesis 11.


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You can just email me personally too. Some numbers came out from Pew Research and the media took it all in one direction. I want to take it in a totally different direction because that's what we do here. But real quick, just so you know

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how other people are talking about it. It's framed as here are these social issues. Here's where Biden voters stand on them. Here's where Trump voters stand on them. There's a huge difference between the two, and we're two different countries living on two different planets.

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That's fine, and I think that's right. Let me go over just one of the issues. Gun ownership is one of the questions. Gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves. That's one of the questions.

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Only 23% of Biden voters agree with that. 86% of Trump voters agree with that. So we have a very different view on the Second Amendment. Pretty important was number two, our founders put it as number two on the list. It wasn't like an add-on, tack-on at the end. Number two in the original list of ten and 23% of Biden voters like no, gun ownership bad, and 86% of Trump supporters say it's good.

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Weird that the 14% don't, but alas. There were about eight questions like that that I would classify as some sort of social issue. But there are two that have gotten no attention that I think were the most important two questions and I think get to the root of all these other issues

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that are addressed here. The other questions are about symptoms. I want to get to the diagnosis of the actual illness. Henry David Thoreau, thousands hacking at the branches of evil for one who's striking the root. Now, two of these questions get to the root, but no one's talking about.

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One of the question is, religion should be kept separate from government policies. 86% of Biden voters say yes, religion should be kept separate from government policies. They fell for the whole separation of church and state lie. Now, by religion, of course, they mean Christianity. That's what people are interpreting that as okay so 86% of Biden voters say religion should be kept

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separate from government policy okay 56% of Trump voters agree with that okay so that's actually pretty close those two people that's not going to work but Let's get to just the question itself. If you don't fill this space that we call government, society, our culture, our country, if you don't fill this space with the religion, it will be filled with a religion. Do you know what I mean?

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It was filled with Christianity and then we left it. We just left the space and it's been filled with progressivism and really secular humanism, which I'll explain in just a second. And it was all done with this whole separation of church and state hoax. Like Christians had this space and then progressives came in, atheists came in, secular humanists came in and said, you know, this is a public space. Religion's not allowed in here. Look, separation of church and state. And a

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bunch of weak Christians were like, oh wow, I guess you're right. Sorry about that. And the pagans were like I can't believe that worked that's all we had to do we to show them a completely out of context letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to some guy and they all the

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Christians just walked away and they just just waltz straight in the program the the pagan secular humanists just walked for a while and took over every part of our culture and then of course we see all the problems that have

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come from that which we'll get to in a second. But I mentioned secular humanism. What is this? Actually, someone called into the show and mentioned that. I was just mentioning, I just said progressivism, but someone called in and said it's secular humanism.

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So what is secular humanism? Okay, here's 10 worldview beliefs of a secular humanist pagan. James Fowler came up with this list. Number one, man is autonomous and independent. It's me. I'm autonomous.

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I do what I want. I'm independent and free. Number two, man is his own center of reference. Number three, man is self-generative and self-sufficient. Number four, man has the potential to do anything he sets his mind to. Number five, man is the cause of his own effects.

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Number six, man is the source of his own activity. Number seven, man has a free will to choose anything he desires. Number eight, man is innately good. Number nine, man is the subject and object of his own world. Number ten, man is the solution to his own problems. I lied, I got two more.

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Number 11, man deserves to indulge in personal aspirations, personal gratifications, and personal reputation, which is 1 John 2.16. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life is not of the Father, but is of this world. And finally, man is his own God. You see this everywhere.

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This is the culture we live in today. Christians left the cultural spaces and the secular humanists walked right in. That's why you have entire sections of bookstores called self-help. This is why you have a self-esteem movement. This is why you have the transgender movement. This is why you have the gay marriage. It all comes down to this. So I don't just on this again this religion question.

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Religion should be kept separate from government policies. It's one thing for the pagans to say yes to that. I'm more concerned about the 56% of Trump voters. Come on, people.

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Let's get it together.

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Let's see the importance of this. But it's a secular humanist world, which is, oh, you know, everyone, who am I to say everyone can do whatever works best for them. Okay well should we be allowed to kill people? Christianity says no. Islam says well are they gay? Is it a girl who dishonored her family? If so then you should be able to murder. In China you can't murder unless it's a girl. If it's a baby girl then you

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can. But our country has always said no to murder except for if you don't want the baby, then it's not really murder. Yes, we need religion back in politics, back in government, back in our culture, first and foremost, and then the politics will follow. Alright, now check out this question. voters who say, so the question is, is society better off if people make marriage and having children a priority? Is society better off if people make marriage and having children a priority?

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Now, to be clear, the question isn't, is it a priority for you? You may not want kids. You may not have kids. You may not want to get married. Like Paul, you don't want to get married.

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That's fine.

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No problem. But the question wasn't, are you better off, which may be up to different circumstances, sure. Is society better off? Just in general, should we generally, culturally, big picture, have, make marriage and having children a priority? And 81% of Biden voters say no. Like, just, just like, definitionally, you can't have a society if you don't have children.

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Society, the word society literally means fellowship with others. You can't, this is such a sign that we're so far off, we're just not, we're in a really, really bad place when such a vast, vast majority of Biden voters don't think that marriage and having children is good. I guess the next step is they'll say it's bad, you shouldn't. For a while, monogamy was important, and then it turned into, monogamy is not for everyone. And now I guess it's, monogamy should be for no one. Outlaw marriage. So those are the Biden voters. What about the Trump supporters? 59%.

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Sorry, did we understand the question? Is society better off if people make marriage and having children a priority? And only 59% of Trump voters said yes. Wow. We're in a bad place here. So the point I made on the radio is it's one thing to have some chipped paint in your house. Maybe I do some grout work. Okay. Maybe vacuum the carpets, do a little Marie Kondo in the closet, something like that. That's fine. But when you got termites or you got some major structural damage, or your well water is full of lead, it's causing brain damage.

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We got some big problems here, and I think that's where we are right now, where even Trump voters, or conservatives, are, eh, marriage, kids, I don't know, I don't think it's that important. Whoa, whoa, whoa, there may be lead in the water that's causing us, it's like we're being poisoned. And we have been poisoned, we've been poisoned by Marxism.

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Linda Gordon, I could share many, many quotes, but Linda Gordon was an intellectual from Yale. She said, the nuclear family must be destroyed. The breakup of families is now an objectively revolutionary process. She was a feminist, so she came up from that perspective.

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No woman should have to deny herself any opportunities because of her special responsibility to children. So this was, well, we talked about the radio and I just happened, so I prepared a segment about this yesterday afternoon, I just so happened this morning, before the show to read this sermon

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from Martin Lloyd-Jones about the Tower of Babel which of course ties in perfectly because it's the Bible and Genesis is all about life. I love this, this is such a great line I'm just going to share a bunch of lines from this. I love this.

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Far from being remote from life, Genesis is the only book that really does deal with life as it is.

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It's so good.

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What a great perhaps the opposite is true. That's one of the mottos of the show is perhaps the opposite is true. People will be like, oh, they'll say the Bible in general, but Genesis, that has nothing to do with us. That's a long time ago and irrelevant, just a bunch of made up silly stories and here's Martin Lloyd-Jones saying, no, no, far from being like having nothing to do with life, there's no book that has more to do with life and can more explain

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why the world is the way it is than this book right here. So we had a caller call and he said, you know, Slater, we're dealing with the symptoms and not getting to the root of these issues. And I agree. And here's what Martin Lloyd-Jones says. He says I'm assuming that no one is foolish enough to say that diagnosis does not

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matter like the root that all we need is a little relief. It's nothing but sheer lunacy to medicate symptoms only to give temporary passing relief and yet ignore the disease that is causing the symptoms. That is a thoroughly dishonest thing to do. There are people who say oh I can't be bothered about causes and explanations all I know is that I'm in trouble and want relief. Those who say that are the kind of people who make the complete round of all the cults and all the rival philosophies

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and teachings, only to be disappointed by one after the other. The butterfly attitude towards life is always fatal. No, no, the essence of wisdom is to discover the cause of the problems. And whether we like it or not, the Bible always emphasizes that. The cause, what's the root? So we're talking about the Tower of Babel, Genesis 11, 3, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar.

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So back in Israel they had stones, but where they were now, they did not. So they had to make bricks. And they made bricks by observing. Observing. They saw what happened with the clay and when the clay got wet and then it hit the Sun and it got hard. So they figured out, they learned how to make bricks. It's amazing

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what humans are capable of when we observe. This is true with the invention of vaccinations. There was a guy, Edward Jenner, he noticed that people who milked cows did not get smallpox as frequently as other people got smallpox. He's like, huh, that's weird. What's going on with that? And he observed that the people who are milking cows, they, from their hands, would get cowpox. And he's like, I wonder if because they got this small amount of cowpox, if this is helping them prevent, preventing them from getting a full-blown infection of smallpox.

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So he found a bunch of people that have never had smallpox and he gave them a little bit of cowpox in their hands and those people sure enough did not get smallpox. That was the beginning of vaccination. And these men did the same thing when they were looking at what happens when the sun hardens clay. And they're like, oh, we can make our own stones. We don't just naturally have stones, if we used to, we'd just make them our own. Let me quote from Lloyd-Jones,

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This ought to be a perfect world, what a wonderful creature man is! Nothing should ever go wrong in a world inhabited by such people, people who are capable of such tremendous observations, inductions, experiments, and inventions. Such creatures ought to know how to manage their world and themselves to perfection. They should have a world entirely free from trouble.

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And that is what the secular humanists truly believe. That's why you have these people who believe in technology. They think technology will save us. They think technology can help us live forever. They believe in utopia. And this is a technology.

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Making bricks is just a technology. Just like the technologies today. People think that that will save us. But it won't. It never does. Sure, maybe we can observe certain things and come up with different inventions,

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but this doesn't help us figure out how to live with ourselves or with others. Because the problem is we're living apart from God. And that was the root of the problem with these people right here. I mean, look, this was right after the flood. Here's what the Bible says, And God blessed...

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They disobeyed God right from the beginning, these people. And God blessed Noah and his sons and said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth. That's in Genesis 9.1. So God wanted these people to replenish the earth and to fill it, but they didn't do that.

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They didn't scatter around. They said, We're going to build a city. Go, let us build a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name, let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth." God told them to go and replenish the earth.

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And they said, we don't want to. They wanted to live a self-sufficient life, one without God. They didn't need it. They were the secular humanists of their day. We don't need God. We can build a tower to heaven ourselves.

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They believed in the development of man, and they thought it would bring glory to them. Let me quote from Lloyd-Jones. Oh, here's the line that I love so much. Then they, because this is just today, this is in, then they said, come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves.

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Lloyd-Jones says, marvelous, isn't it? Here is your city and the latest propaganda and advertising and it's all absolutely perfect. Do it, build it, advertise it, get the headlines and the signs so that everybody will see and stand in admiration and wonder. Man, there is no limit to him. He can build a tower to heaven if there is a God in heaven. While man can put a ladder that will take him there, he will build his city in such a way that it will not only encompass the earth, but also the heavens.

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Nothing is impossible. No longer glory to God in the highest, but glory to man in the highest. No height is too great for him. He has it in him to get anywhere. Nothing can stop him. Inventions, discoveries, progress, harnessing the forces of nature, splitting the atom, nothing can ever frustrate human beings or put a limit or a ceiling on their greatness, and they know it. There's no doubt about it. They said, very well, let's prove that we can do it. And we'll write our names all over it.

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We'll bow down and worship ourselves and our greatness and uniqueness. That is secular humanism. That is the people who built the Tower of Babel. That is us today in the United States of America. You want to know why we have all these problems today in America? There's the root of it right there.

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We can stop here.

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We'll do more of this tomorrow. But what's our, we're going to conclude, what do we do instead? I always want to end on a good note, like, all right, this is bad. Secular humanism bad. What do we do now? I think the mission for today is to be aware of these secular humanist thoughts that you

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and I have today that are sort of running in the background. We may not even know it, and to see it all coming at us from every other direction as well. The idea that you're the center of the universe, you're the center of what is good, you have the potential to do anything you set your mind to,

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you are the source of all things, you are, man is innately good, you're the solution to all the problems that you deserve to indulge in whatever personal gratification that you want, and that man is his own God.

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You'll see it everywhere. When you find an example that you didn't expect, I'd love to know what it is. You can find my email on the website, MikeSlater.Locals.com. It's where we put all of these episodes with the transcript and commercial free as well. MikeSlater.Locals.com is my website. MikeSlater.Locals.com is my website. Please, my email is on the SlaterRadio at gmail.com.

 

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I love our Pilgrims. I love their story, their courage, their virtue. We need to have a constant connection with these amazing people more than just once a year. Today, let's celebrate the historic document "The Mayflower Compact".

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And I don't either. My wife doesn't like it. So everyone's like, no turkey this year. Dad was like, I finally do ham. I thought about it. Well, that's not American of me. 

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Oh, but Slater, if you inject it with butter and you pour spices over it and you deep fry it... and then smoke it for 20 hours. You're like, okay, I guess maybe then it's edible. But no one eats turkey any other time of the year. I don't mean turkey sandwiches, I mean like a turkey. No one's, what's the big of turkey, honey? 

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Absolutely brilliant. Can my children make it 24 hours before the meal? Tastes delicious then. Because our pilgrims went 66 days on the boat and six more months hanging offshore. And then when they got off the boat, they still had all the work to do, but everyone was so sick. There were only six men who were able to do any work and they had to do all the work and all the work needed to be done. 

But I want to, my first main point here is I want to talk about the Mayflower Compact because we had this problem here with the 61 strangers. with the 41 pilgrims. So they're supposed to land in Virginia. That's where their legal authority was to set up, but they got blown off course and they landed in Cape Cod. So the patent they had, the permission was null and void and the strangers are going to kill the pilgrims. So William Bradford wrote up this Mayflower Compact. 

It was the first document ever creating a consensual government between individuals without a king. So all the other declarations in the past were in agreement with the king and the people like the Magna Carta. The Magna Carta was the king saying, all right, fine, I won't do these things to you people. But this was just people coming up with their own separate agreement. John Quincy Adams says it was the first example. in modern times of a social compact or system of government instituted by voluntary agreement conformable to the laws of nature by men of equal rights, so no king, and about to establish their community in a new country. 

And this was the beginning of Thomas Jefferson when he wrote in the Declaration of Independence that governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the government. This is the Mayflower Compact. So I want to read it to you here. Again, my first point is how secular this document was. Just more evidence that, of course, we were founded as a Christian nation. Let's go back to the very beginning. 

The Mayflower Compact. It said, this is the whole thing, I'm going to read the whole thing. In the name of God, Amen. That's a great opening. The Constitution has a great opening too. We the people. 

That's a good opening. The Declaration opens with when in the course of human events. That's a good opening too, but this is a strong opening. You can't get better. In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, having undertaken for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian faith. 

Oh, they were deists and not, they didn't really believe. In honor of our king and country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia. Due by these presents, these present, solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, covenant and combine ourselves into a civil body politic for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends of Forset. The ends are the glory of God and the advancement of the Christian faith. And by virtue hereof, to enact, constitute, and frame such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, and constitutions, and offices from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof, we have here under subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our sovereign Lord, King James, Anno Dominio Lievre Lord, 1620. 

This is our heritage. This is our country. This is where we come from. And I'll leave you with this, Anne Bradstreet. We're going to talk more about her next week. Anne Bradstreet came over to New World with her dad and her husband in 1630, first to Salem Mass. 

And then two years later, they settled in what's now Cambridge, Mass. She had eight kids, incredible life. She was our first poet. She's a wonderful poet. I've read a couple of things of hers in the past, and she's a fantastic poet. Our very first. 

I just want to share this again, more evidence of where we came from is who we are. And I hope this inspires you to reconnect to this. This is, uh, the church covenant 1630 and a bunch of men. And also Anne Bradstreet signed this in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and in obedience to his holy will and divine ordinance. We, whose names are here underwritten. being by his most wise and good providence brought together into this part of America, in the Bay of Massachusetts, and desirous to unite ourselves into one congregation or church, under the Lord Jesus Christ our head, in such sort as becometh all those whom he hath redeemed and sanctified to himself, to hereby solemnly and religiously, as in his most holy presence, promise and bind ourselves to walk in all our ways according to the rule of the gospel, and in all sincere conformity to the 

ordinances, and in mutual love and respect each to other. So near as God shall give us grace. 

" The beginning of the church is now known as the First Church of Boston. 

Still around. I'm so inspired by these amazing people. It's so important for us to reconnect to them. We know their courage. We know their bravery. We know their virtues. 

We know what mattered most to them. And the more we can reconnect to that, the better off we'll all be. I was going to say, better off we'll all be even today. Better off we'll all be especially. A few more Thanksgiving points we'll make next week. But I hope you have a wonderful weekend thinking about that. MikeSlater . Locals . com for the transcript and commercial free.

 

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More People Are Curious Than Ever Before
Politics By Faith, November 20, 2025

I love the reaction Jillian Michaels has to the truth of Jesus' existence. So many people think that Jesus didn't even exist, that he was like the Tooth Fairy. But when people hear the truth, what a joy to see the scales fall from their eyes.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being here. Someone asked me yesterday or two days ago. So what are you doing for Thanksgiving? And I said, Oh, I don't know. 

What are you like? 

What are you doing for the Fourth of July Thanksgiving? It's like forever away. You're talking about it's a week away. 

So I say that here because in the next couple of days, our episodes, we will have a celebration of the Puritans and our pilgrims, my favorite people. Oh, love the pilgrims. I can't speak enough about the Pilgrims. They're the best. They're just the best. And I will prove it over the next few days when we do a humble attempt to celebrate these amazing people. 

This is our heritage. These Pilgrims are our heritage. It is a crime, purposeful, to disconnect us from these people who founded this country. These are our true founders. We talk about our founding fathers. These are our founding grandfathers. 

They did incredible things and for all the right reasons. So we'll talk about them in the days to come. I want to share this here, including the preacher, the main preacher of the church, these Puritans, because the Puritans, they started in England, of course, but then they went to Amsterdam for 12 years and things didn't go well there. We'll talk about why next time. And when they went to England, or when they went to New England, there was a sermon that the preacher gave from the boat about Ezra 821. 

So we'll talk about that. 

But I want to play this instead, and maybe this can be encouraging to you before we go into Thanksgiving gatherings. This is a video of Jillian Michaels and Victor Davis Hanson. That's a fun video, and I don't know how much you can tell it from listening to it. But Jillian Michaels, who, by the way, is married, married to a woman, she's been going out with him. conservative kind of awakening. How shocked she is as VDH goes into the historical confirmation of Jesus outside of the Bible itself. 

And Jillian Michaels is blown away. She's never heard this stuff before, can't believe that this was true, but also loves it at the same time. 

Jesus the Magician was written by a scholar at Columbia that showed that, I don't necessarily agree with his thesis, but there were a lot of people that were traveling magicians, and Christ was the best one, and that also bothered the Romans, and he was able to create mass populist Sermon on the Mount stuff. And then the message, you've got to remember that the message... 

I thought we didn't even know this guy. This is going to infuriate people, and I'm so sorry, and I stay out of it. But I thought we weren't even really sure whether or not Jesus existed, and the apostles wrote this stuff hundreds of years later. 

No, no, the Romans knew. We have Roman documents completely separate from religion that he was a magnetic, he was a romantic, wonderful person to the people who knew him and he had staged a revolution and that that presented a problem in this troublesome Province and how the Romans ran Judea as they ran everything they had client Kings Herod So they would go to the Jews or the Gaul anybody and say you're going to be the regent here This is the protocol. We have Roman legions to keep you in line, but we want this and it's basically a question of taxes control and in exchange for that we give you roads and aqueducts and habeas corpus and Civilization and that was a deal. 

So the way by the way that we go into the developing world. 

Yes, and so there were Regent Kings and then you always had a provincial Roman official, like Pilate, who had a temporary, you know, assignment, and he was the ultimate judge. So, his whole point was, I don't want to get into this stuff between this new offshoot of Judaism called Christianity, and this guy Jesus and the Orthodox, but I do know, I don't know what he did, but I know that it's troublesome. Both, he's got a new religion, and unfortunately it's turned the other cheek. Brotherhood of man, blessed are the meek, blessed are the poor. That's not Roman. 

We have a Roman military ethos, that the strong inherit the earth, and if an enemy offends you, you hit him twice. And this guy is preaching something very different. And oh, by the way, the local Orthodoxy doesn't like him either. So we'll just wash my hands of it and say, how do we kill two birds with one stone, i . e. not have them angry at us so that and not have this revolutionary new sect, so what we'll do is, we'll get Pilate and he'll say, well, I washed my hands of it, but since these guys think he's guilty, I'll let him kill him, and then we'll blame them. 

But at the same time, with the Apostles and the next two generations, they were being killed systematically in Rome by Romans that had nothing to do with Jews. 

Right, right. 

Yeah, so when anybody says that the Jews killed kill Jesus, it's more like the Romans wanted a quiet province and they did not like Jesus and what he represented was anti -Roman. It was a popular revolt they thought could happen. And there was an orthodoxy that they had come to terms with and used them to keep the peace. So they said basically, well, in Judaism, in Judea, the Jewish establishment, the religious establishment doesn't like him any more than we do. So we can get rid of him and then say the Pharisees basically did it. 

This is so wild. I'm sorry, I know it's not wild for people who know this information, but I genuinely thought, okay, the Jews had the Old Testament, the Torah, and then maybe there was this guy Jesus. The apostles wrote stuff, but the first guy who wrote something was like, you know, 90 or so years later. We think maybe there's some Dead Sea Scrolls, kind of mentioned this guy Jesus, but then constantly had a, what, the Council of Nicaea or something like that? 

He had a vision of the Milliman Bridge that all of a sudden he saw crossing the sky and he flipped the entire empire. So under Diocletian and other recent emperors, they were completely banned and they were executed because they were too revolutionary. Christianity because they could deal with the Jews because the Jews Judaism was localized in a particular area at that time and It was a particular group of people but Christianity said that anybody could get to heaven Through the combination of what would become the New Testament in the Old Testament And so the Romans said you know what this has an ability to be it's kind of like what Islam would do later This can infect everybody because it's not it's not ethnic or anything It's very dangerous and then all of a sudden Constantine was flipped 300 years after the death of Christ. And then they took all of the Roman rituals that had been used to oppress Christianity and turned them upside down. So when you see a cardinal with a purple and the pointed hat, that's all from the Roman legate and provincial system. And when you look even today, the organization of the Roman Catholic Church, it mimics the divisions in the empire. 

They took the whole administrative system that the empire had, and they flipped it over to advance and institutionalize Christianity. 

Okay. 

It's a fun clip, isn't it? So Jillian Michaels is, again, married to a woman. She's been on the left her whole life, but I think just through default. And she's going in this process of awakening. I say default because again, the opening comment she said was, wait, wait, I thought we weren't even sure that Jesus existed. It's one thing to say that Jesus wasn't actually the son of God. 

It's another to deny that he was even a person who walked around. So Jillian Michaels is going through a bit of an awakening on her own. By the way, I want to take back the word woke, or I shouldn't say take it back because we never made it up the word woke, but I want woke to be a word. us because it's actually a biblical concept first. Ephesians 5 .14 says, for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says, awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead and Christ will shine on you. 

Awake, awake, O sleeper. What's a sleeper? The Greek word here for sleeper is someone who yields to sloth and sin or someone who is indifferent to their salvation. So wake up, you who are indifferent to your salvation. Arise from the dead and Christ will shine on you. Wake up. 

Romans 13 11. Besides this, you know the time that the time has come for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed. Let us then lay aside the works of darkness and put on the armor of light. " Isaiah 52, 1 says, Awake, awake, put on your strength, O Zion, put on your beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city, for there shall no more come into you the uncircumcised and the unclean. But awake, awake, wake up. 

This is the original wake. Be awakened from your spiritual sleep. Be awakened from the darkness that you live on. Get the scales off your eyes and see the truth. It's time to be woke. Anyway, that's why I want to take back the word woke. 

So just about the history of Jesus, that Jesus actually was a real person. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, they wrote their gospels after Jesus died, rose, and ascended. Mark was 40 years later. Matthew was 50 years later. John was 65 years later. Matthew and John knew Jesus personally. 

Mark was close with Peter. Luke was close with Paul. They all based their writings on witness testimony. Of course, it was all the work of the Holy Spirit. But I love Jillian Michaels being aghast at Jesus even being a real person. I distinctly remember, this was before I was a Christian, I was in a seminar in college, and I remember this room, I don't even know how we got up because it was about the Vietnam War or something, but everyone in this seminar, so like 15 people, were talking about how Jesus wasn't real. 

Now, I wasn't a Christian at the time at all, but everyone was talking about how he wasn't real, like he was like the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus, like straight up not real. never existed, not a real person, figment of our imagination. 

All of it. 

All of him. I remember thinking, hey, I'm not a Christian, but he was definitely like a guy. He was definitely like a real person that walked around. Liar, lunatic, or lord. These people in college say he didn't even exist. But there were a lot of historians who admitted that Jesus existed. 

And they were contemporaries of Jesus Tacitus. Roman historian wrote about Jesus in 116 AD, wrote about the persecution of Christians. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus wrote just within a few decades of Jesus's death, he talked about Jesus. Pliny the Younger mentioned Jesus as well in his writings. He wrote about how Christians would meet regularly and sing songs to Christ as to a God. Actually, I'm going to quote this, just so you don't think I'm making this up. 

This is Pliny the Younger writing to the Emperor Trajan, 112, 112 AD. Pliny said, It is my custom, sir, to refer to you in all cases where I do not feel sure for who can better direct my doubts or inform my ignorance. I have never been present at any legal examination of the Christians, and I do not know, therefore, what are the usual penalties passed upon them, or the limits of those penalties, or how searching and inquiry should be made. I have hesitated a great deal in considering whether any distraction should be made. according to the ages of the accused, whether the weak should be punished as severely as the more robust, whether if they renounce their faith they should be pardoned." " So he's like, hmm, we've got these Christian people, how should we punish them? And what's too far? Does it matter if they're old or young? What if they're weak or strong? What if they renounce their faith, should we pardon them? Or whether the man who has once been a Christian should gain nothing by recanting. So if they, if they recant, should we let them go? Or nah, anytime you even mention, you know, say that Jesus is Lord, that's it for you, no matter what. Whether the name itself, even though otherwise innocent of crime, should be punished or only the crimes that gather around it. So should you get them for worshiping Jesus or should you get them for all these other crimes? In the meantime, this is the plan which I have adopted in the case of those Christians who have been brought before me. I ask them whether they are Christians. If they say yes, then I repeat the question a second and a third time, warning them of the penalties it entails, and if they still persist, I order them to be taken away to prison until the Roman governor has arrived." 

He goes on and says, "...but they declared that the sum of their guilt or their error only amounted to this, that on a stated day they had been accustomed to meet before daybreak and to recite a hymn among themselves to Christ, as though he were a God, and that so far from binding themselves by oath to commit any crime, their oath was to abstain." from theft, robbery, adultery, and from breach of faith. " So he's like far from this being like a criminal group. Their oath was to not break the law and not to deny trust, money placed in the keeping when called upon to deliver it. When the ceremony was concluded, it had been their custom to depart and meet again to take food. Same thing we do now after church, after church lunch. But it was no special character and quite harmless. 

And they had ceased this practice after the edict in which in accordance with your orders, I had forbidden all secret societies. It's great. That was only like year 112, he wrote that letter. Jesus was real. The Christians who knew him were willing to go to their death. I'm very encouraged by the spreading of the gospel and the truth of Jesus and God to many people. 

There'll be many new people who are gonna hear the truth for really the first time, even though they've grown up in a so -called Christian country. And I'm encouraged when I hear stories like Jillian Michaels here who are amazed by what they've never heard before and curious to know more. 

It's great. 

Let me give you one of my favorite facts about Jesus that when, when I was not a Christian, I was reading my first apologetics book, Frank Turk, not enough faith to be an atheist. It makes the point that all the new Testament documents were written just within a few decades of Jesus's crucifixion. And there are 5 ,300 Greek manuscripts of the new Testament, 5 ,300. And still people are like, I don't know if he existed. Does anyone question if Plato existed? Anyone like, I don't know about that Plato guy. 

I don't think he was real. There are only 250 known manuscripts of Plato's works that survive. And those date back, even though he was alive in about 400 BC, those date back to the year 900. So you've got like 1300 years between the actual Plato, like Plato the guy. 1 ,300 years before Plato the god. and the earliest documents we have of his. 

1 ,300 years and no one questions Plato's existence. Yet for Jesus, these are contemporaries who wrote of him and people are like, I don't think so. And again, it's one thing to say you don't think he's Lord or God and all, like that's fine. The son of God, but it's another bit like, I don't think he exists. 

It's great. 

So super grateful, more people being woke, the good woke, the biblical woke. And let's just pray for more. I may have read Titus 3 the other day. I don't know if I did, but even if I did, it's worth it again. I love this section. He says, remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities. 

Talking to Titus and his church. Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, to show perfect courtesy towards all people. And that's what Pliny was talking about. He's like, ah, man, these guys are like really good people. I don't even know what to get them on. But here's the best part. 

For we ourselves, were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to His own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace, we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people. " We can't be boastful about those things. who are not Christians yet, or who are new and working through it. 

We can't be boastful because that was us not long ago. And also don't be discouraged by those who scoff, who don't believe in the truth of Jesus in the Bible. The fools will scoff. 

That's fine. 

But you also never know whose eyes you can help open, just like yours were. Praise God. Hopefully that's encouraging as we go into this Thanksgiving season. Maybe have some more interactions and encounters with people. You never know. Mike Slater, diallocals .  com, transcript. and no commercials over there. Mike Slater out, Locals .

 

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TDS Violence: The Degenerates
Politics By Faith, November 17, 2025

Some details about the would-be Trump assassin came out, and it's too predictable. There is too much degeneracy in our culture today. It all has to be rooted out. 

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thank you for being here. I just picked up this book, The Existence and Attributes of God, by Stephen Charnock, written in the 1600s by this wonderful Puritan preacher. Like, just a couple pages in. But I got a lot of underlines already. I'll just start off with this line. 

When men deny the God of purity, they must be polluted in soul and body and grow brutish in their actions. When the sense of religion is shaken off, all kinds of wickedness are eagerly rushed into, whereby they become as loathsome to God as putrefied carcasses are to men. " He didn't hold back, didn't hold back. There's a section about this scripture right here, Psalm 14 1. The fool has said in his heart there is no God. It's a fool. 

It's what a fool says. They are corrupt. They have done abominable works. There is none who does good. That's my intro to any topic we could possibly imagine in the realm of politics. It's like, spin around, put a blindfold on, spin around, throw a dart in any direction. 

We're like, great, we'll go that way and go anywhere we want. Let's go this way. New York Post has a story about the guy who was a millimeter away from murdering the president in Butler, Pennsylvania. And it's about how the FBI committed a live omission, saying, oh, we know nothing about this guy's political political motivations from online. Kids warning, if there's any kids listening right now. On one of his accounts, he went by they them. 

So there's some transgender stuff. He also was a furry into this furry stuff. So furry is so wicked and deviant. Actually, the online community is called deviant art. It's like that one website online, it's like his feminist website, it's called Jezebel. They're like, oh man, they literally actively on their own chose to name their website after the most wicked woman ever to have lived. 

And here we have a website where they went out, they called themselves deviant art. Like the pride parade calls themselves pride. It's like they're not even hiding any of this. It's all in the open. Furries are people who dress up like animals as a fetish. So he was engaging in some of this online. 

So total degenerate. The word degenerate, It's interesting, we have to have a pretty firm understanding of this word. On my radio show, this was one of the school shooters, I forget even know what, and a woman called in and said, because we're talking about demons, and she made the point that the demons, demons see weakness, they see prey, and they went after it. And you think of someone who has grown up their whole life with broken family and a school system that she's accommodates every violence or antisocial degenerate whim for 13 years, K through 12. 13 years of no accountability, no masculinity, no discipline, no guardrails, pure poison poured into their brains constantly. Throw in maybe some other horrors and abuse in there, just wicked depraved evil for their entire childhood. 

Of course, that person's soul is going to be ripe for the picking. The word degenerate, the original dictionary definition from Noah Webster, 1828, is to become worse, to decay in good qualities, to pass from a good to a bad or worse state. In the natural world, plants and animals degenerate when they grow to a less size than usual or lose a part of the valuable qualities which belong to the species. In the moral world, men degenerate when they decline in virtue or other good qualities. Manners degenerate when they become corrupt. A coward is a man of degenerate spirit. 

" Isn't that great? And because the original dictionary, Noah Webster, was such a strong Christian, one of our founding fathers, almost every dictionary word has a Bible verse. And he quotes Jeremiah 221. And this is about Israel pursuing false gods, as usual. And Jeremiah says, I had planted you a noble vine, a seed of highest quality. How then have you turned before me into the degenerate plant of an alien vine, degenerate. 

One could say the same about America. Once a shining city upon a hill, how we have turned into a degenerate plant. Now a little added spin to this. The Latin root of the word means birth or descent. So there's a connotation of falling away from the quality of your ancestors. Genius is birth or descent and de means off or away from. 

So genius, degenerate. So you're falling away from your birth. Isn't that interesting? Now I don't know if this stood out to you in the Noah Webster's dictionary definition. The plant. They used the word degenerate to describe a plant. 

It was one of the definitions. And then Jeremiah was also about a plant. 

That's interesting. 

isn't it? So in this book, The Existence and Attributes of God by Stephen Charnock, here's what he says about the word, about the fool. He says the fool, a term in scripture signifying a wicked man. Isn't that interesting? So a fool is not someone who's aloof. A fool is someone who's wicked. 

Also used by the heathen philosophers to signify a vicious person. And then it has a Hebrew word that's coming from a different Hebrew word, signifies the extinction, of life in men, animals and plants. So the word and the Hebrew word is taken a plant that hath lost all that juice, which made it lovely and useful. So a fool is one that had lost his wisdom and right notion of God and divine things, which were communicated to man by creation, one dead in sin, degeneracy. And there's all types of degenerate behavior and it's all wicked. And it has every culture, every group of people. 

It knows no race. There's no bounds of race or income bracket. There's all types. of degeneracy and degenerate behavior. None of it's good. You know, we all know for God to love the world, that he gave his only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 

We know that. Everyone knows that line. But how many people quote the next line? Let me just jump a few lines down. We'll go to verse 19. And this is the judgment. 

The light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. People love for everyone who does wicked things, hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his work should be exposed. But whoever whoever what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God." " Darkness, light, degeneracy, virtue. I don't know when this will hit fully the way it needs to. 

I pray we're in the beginnings of it because this isn't enough wherever we're at right now. We need such a proper revolution in this country. We did a great show today on SiriusXM. Three hours of the economy, basically. It was great. But make America great again cannot be GDP. 

And I want the economy to do great and all that, but that cannot be it. We need to root out degeneracy in this country. We need to get out and get rid of the darkness. We need to turn the lights on. Scales need to fall from people's eyes. We need to not only make America great again, but we need to aspire to something bigger again. 

I think this is a place here on this podcast where we can talk it out, figure it out. and hopefully spread the word. Mikeslater . locals . com is my website. We just put the transcript up there and no commercials as well.

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