Pastor John MacArthur Interview

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Politics By Faith, April 2, 2024

July 02, 2024

What an honor to talk to Pastor MacArthur. We talked about his new book "The War On Children" and also got into Joe Biden, Donald Trump, the only way we can save this country, and his choice words for Gavin Newsom.

Welcome to Politics by Faith, brought to you by the Patriot Gold Kurukwa. An honor it was to talk to the great Pastor John McArthur on the show this morning. That's on Breitbart News Daily. He doesn't do a lot of interviews, and the fact that he agreed to chat with us is just fantastic. So I wanted to put it over here for you so you can enjoy the entire interview. Pastor McArthur.

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All right, let's get to the important stuff now. A man who has had an incredible influence in my life and my family's life. He's the pastor of Grace Community Church in Los Angeles, author of 150 books. Gty.org, grace2u.org is an incredible resource. Chancellor of the Masters University and Seminary, the MacArthur Study Bible, over a million sold his newest book the war on children providing refuge for your children hostile world pastor john mccarthur passes an honor to talk to you sir good morning

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in my view mike my privilege

and and thank you for waking up early force what you know the wake-up time pastor

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it's not five o'clock

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Well, thank you. Thank you for doing it for us close, but close, but you missed it by about an hour. That's

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Got a ton of questions for you, sir, but let's start with the book of course You've you've been through a lot of decades Which is a nice way of saying you're old sir, but you see you've seen a lot was as you look back Was there something that you can you can point to and you're like, ah, yes, yes, that, that was a turning point. Or that, I don't want to say the start of it all, because that goes back a long time, but that was a major acceleration of dissent at that time.

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Yeah, it's a really perceptive question. I don't want to get wrapped up in too long an answer. But in the first chapter of Romans, the Apostle Paul writes that the wrath of God is revealed against the society when there's a sequence. And the first sequence is a sexual revolution. And three times the Bible says God gave them over. When there's a sexual revolution, and this is repeated through history, nation after nation after nation. When there's

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a sexual revolution, it says God gave them up to immorality, followed by a homosexual revolution and God gave them up to the consequences of that behavior. And then it's followed by a third part that's basically a reprobate mind, a homosexual revolution, and a reprobate mind, meaning they don't think right. I used to wonder, what is that? Well, it might be when you try to turn a boy into a girl, or a girl into a boy.

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I can't think of anything more insane than that. And you might mutilate them in the process. There's an insanity loose in our culture that is the exact sequence going from a sexual revolution, go back to the playboy era, the homosexual revolution which we all know very much about, which has taken over leading into the transgender, which is the insanity. And it's at that point that you can say, at least in Romans 1, God gave them over.

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God gave them over. God takes his hand off at that point. And so there's a forfeiture by that culture of divine blessing. And they put themselves in a serious position before God. So I look at those kind of three sequential steps as the most defining, from a biblical standpoint, the most defining things as to why this culture is where it is.

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Do you ever think that we would see a drag queen story hour for children in schools?

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No, and that's part of that third insanity, the reprobate mind, when people don't even think straight. And then when your government and your president says his priority is to make sure that he elevates and honors and protects those people engaged in that kind of thing, the insanity has reached the highest level and they are the levers of power and from a civil standpoint there's no way back.

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You mentioned Playboy a second ago. Hugh Hefner is such a fascinating study to me in our society. When he passed away how many years ago? Just heralded as this hero, this man among men and he's living every man's dream, but you actually look at his life and he was just miserable. Everything about his life was disgusting and the people around him, and even the mansion was filthy and wretched on the inside in every, even like physical way.

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How did we get so wrapped up in all Hugh Hefner and the glamour of it all?

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Well, because every human being is born in sin. Everyone who is born is born into the kingdom of darkness. Everyone who is born is basically a part of the family of Satan. And so when you sell the lust of the flesh, you're tracking with fallenness. I mean, that's... Why is it so hard to break pornography?

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pornography. Why do I talk to a guy on his deathbed who's 80 years old who says to me, my greatest regret is that I hate the word pornography? What was that about? What was that about? I mean, that's powerful and that's in an unregenerate heart, transformed by the gospel. So, yeah, as it can possibly be, because there's an appetite for that.

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Yeah. Talking with John MacArthur, pastor of Grace Community Church in LA. The new book is called The War on Children, Providing Refuge for Your Children in a Hostile World. Let me read this quote here, just on the point you just made. Our culture today is the product of centuries of vile and horrific sins.

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It's been shaped by the wretched desires and wicked intentions of hell-bent hearts. It is a universal reality that each generation passes on to the next a more corrupt world than the one they inherited. In my lifetime alone, the world has rapidly grown more comfortable with sin and more eager to celebrate its pervasive influence. I shudder to think, should the Lord tarry, how future generations will sink further into

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sin." is you go into important detail on the history of child sacrifice. And to me, that's always been my sort of made up rock bottom. I'll know we hit rock bottom when we do actual satanic ritualistic sacrifice. A million aborted babies is a horrific number. But like putting in front of the altars of Baal.

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And it turns out the other day the president of el salvador talked about how ms thirteen gang members of the satanic rituals on children in anything well like we're here and you're going to really important detail on on the history of that why do you go into the detail of that and and is that rock bottom to you

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you're absolutely right mike that i mean that's rock bottom you take basically the most defenseless, the most innocent, the most helpless of all humanity, and you murder them, or you maim them, or you mutilate them, or you pervert them. I mean, this is the worst of...

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I mean, I guess the only thing worse than that is lying about things that are biblical, lying about the Bible. Maybe it's the very worst thing, but not too far off from that is being a phony healer who takes people who are sick, diseased, broken, handicapped, and promising them healing if they send you their money. But that's pretty close to low, but it doesn't reach the level of just outright using children as, yeah, as sacrifices to the God of self.

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You're right, that's just sad.

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It's been common, it's been common through all of human history.

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Yes.

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And I have a chapter in the book that basically delineates that. I mean, that even Israel got involved in sacrificing their children to Molech. And God said to them, even the pagans who sacrificed their children to Baal or Molech, those are my children. And Jesus said the same thing when he picked up a little child in his arms and said, allow this child to come to me for of such is the kingdom of heaven. There's a sense in which children belong to God

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And, yes, society can't get more base than to take the most helpless, the most innocent, and the ones who are at that point under divine protection, even a part of the kingdom of God, and destroys them.

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Yes.

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Tell me, John MacArthur, new book, The War on Children, Providing Refuge for Your Children in a Hostile World. I think the most haunting part of all that other than it. He wrote, Mothers, according to Plutarch, as they would physically take this born child and put him in the fire, stood by without tears or sobs.

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If they wept or sobbed, they lost the honor of the act, and their children were sacrificed nonwithstanding. That's such a haunting story about how profoundly the human soul can be seared and seared by culture or what? I don't even know what, like what is that? What causes that type of, that's not stoicism, that seared conscience.

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Well, it goes back to that Romans 1 thing.

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It's a descent. It starts out with immorality and then it becomes perverse sexuality in some form or another. You can see that in ancient history as well. And then you, there's only one more step and that's to insanity. And that's where you wind up mutilating children,

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killing children, using children. You know when the gay lobby says, we're coming after your children. That's a warning from hell.

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Yeah.

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Or they're not your children.

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Um, you talk about, yeah, they belong to the nation or they belong to the village.

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Yeah.

Here's Joe Biden. Um, there's no such thing as someone else's child.

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Our nation's children are all our children and Kamala, maybe our next president. That's from a man, that's from a man who obviously didn't know how to raise children. We all believe that when we talk about the children of our community they are children of the community says Kamala, which is funny but also because it's non-sequitur but hilarious but sad too. But that's what these people think, that's what these progressives have always thought. They're not yours,

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Pastor MacArthur. Children are not ours, children are not a private

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Now they're to be offered up for whatever purposes the culture wants if it's blood sacrifice. So be it if it's to change the nature of Society to change culture. I mean if you want to change the culture you go for the kids I mean we all have seen the literature that's come out on the arrival of the cell phone in 2010 and between 2010 and 2015 teenage suicides begin

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to go up. Teenage girls become victims of discontent at a level they've never been at and now we're still reaping the suicidal effects of all of that. And that's all orchestrated, You know, your teenage, 14-year-old girl draws something down out of the internet, and the next thing you know, it's just a barrage of that coming at her, coming at her, until her whole approach to life is altered dramatically and powerfully by the instrument she holds in her hand.

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How do you protect children from the worst in a society if they've got it in their hand? And the purveyors of all of that are after them.

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Yes, yes, yes. And it's your book. We need to provide a refuge for our children. But you always hear this, Pastor, of, oh, we don't want to shield our children, or, you know, we don't want them to be weirdos and not acclimate, or not, what's the right word they use, assimilate to society or whatever. You know, we don't want to protect them too. We don't want to over protect them, Pastor.

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Well, I have a fear of parents who often make their own choices. You know, that's a real, a big disaster. Parents don't prepare for the purpose of training children where they should go. They're not prepared. They're not going to depart from it. That's obvious. Child is a product of training. Some kind of training, even if it's minimal training or even it's training in bad things, the child is a product

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of parental influence and the societal power. And in this society, the parents are left to really to fight the battle alone. And I think that's where the church has to step in and provide the social structure and the larger family to aid parents, because the culture is bent on the destruction of children.

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Yes, that's right.

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I mean, they're literally bent on it. It's a target. It's not incidental. It's a target. They want to sell everything that they have, economically and morally or immorally to the children. They're the least able to resist the impact. So parents have to take on a defense mode. You can go back 50 years in American culture, and the society would be helpful to parents

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because there was honor in the society and integrity. And things were right, were clearly right. And things that were wrong were clearly wrong that's all been turned upside down inside out uh... to say uh... you know i will let my kid make his own decision in this environment

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basically the most irresponsible thing a parent could do

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uh... so much of your body moment ago uh... how do you in this political season and every political season how do you think about politics and Christianity and anxiety for the future and what's next and this is the most important election of our lifetime. How do you think about this stuff?

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Well, I think about it two ways. Number one, I think about everything biblically. And God is sovereign and he is in charge and he controls everything. And that means that what's going on in our country, as bad as it is, and as satanic as it is, we have to remember that the devil is God's devil. And he's got limits and he's got boundaries.

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So why is what's happening happening? Because when a society, again, turns to sexual immorality, homosexual immorality, and a reprobate mind, God gives them up. There's a sense in which God takes his hand of blessing off that society. And when he gives them up, it means he gives them up to the consequences of their choices. If you follow that pattern, what you get is Joe Biden, who is the epitome of all of those things that I just talked about. Immorality, rampant in his own family at an epic level, and in his own life, now that's been part of his life.

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That's part of it. And then advocating for homosexuality, and then saying he supports all the transgender nonsense. get when you go down the Romans one path because this is in itself is a kind of divine judgment. Is there a way back? There is a way back if we return to the Word of God, if we proclaim the Gospel, if people

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turn to Christ. You can't change a culture any other way than to change hearts, change hearts from the inside out. And that's where the church has to step in. And as a man who's been in the pastures virtually my whole adult life, I have to say the church has miserably failed. The church has worked so hard to look and sound like what people outside the church

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want that it's lost its impact. It's virtually impossible to tell, I think, to a non-believing person, when he goes to a typical mega church service, the difference between that and a rock concert. Where is the church pointing out the sins of... The scripture makes so clear that bring about divine judgment. But the solution is not going to be Donald Trump. That's a huge move in the right direction.

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And, you know, I think if God allows that to happen, that Trump becomes president, you could say that the Lord has kind of put the brakes on a little bit. But the train is moving so fast down the direction of having been abandoned by God that unless there's a huge spiritual turnaround, there's no way to stop this. And that falls to the church and Christian people. And that means that you... Obviously, we care about politics because we care about sin and righteousness, and we want to uphold righteousness, but Christian people also have to care a whole lot more about the gospel that alone can transform people's hearts.

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We can be concerned about temporal things like politics, but the reason we're in this world is to proclaim the saving gospel of Christ, the transformation that he brings can change a family and change a community and change a nation. Amen. I wonder, I have

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to do another study on this, about Jonathan Edwards and what what the soil was like in the early 1700s in America where a revival or an awakening could take place and could that could something like that happen again? It has to, right? That's all I hope. But could something like that happen in the soil that we have today that is our culture? Yeah, if there's a

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return to the Word of God. It falls to pastors. If we start preaching the Bible...

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Yeah, it's a big if. Pastor, my last question for you before i uh... courage everyone to buy your fantastic book again if you were walking down the streets today pastor in the city streets of los angeles where you live and have called home for many many decades and you bumped into uh... one gavin newsom

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used smacked right into him uh... the pastor what would you say to gavin newsom

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well i did an interview with him and Larry King a few years back. You can check that out. It's pretty interesting. He told me he was a Christian. He was serious about that. And we were discussing the fact that he had basically opened San Francisco to gay marriage.

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And I took issue with that. And he said, well, you know, I'm a Christian also. I said, oh, well, you must believe the Bible." And he stumbled and stammered and said, well, yes, I do. Well, if you believe the Bible, you couldn't possibly advocate same sex marriage. I would say to Gavin Newsom, you don't have the, you don't have, you don't, you put

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yourself in a satanic position to represent the kingdom of darkness rather than the kingdom of God, you know better than this. You were taught better than this. You know what the Bible teaches about morality, even what it teaches about society, family, marriage, culture, even what the Bible teaches about economics. You know all of that, and you are blatantly fighting against God. And I'm concerned about your own soul to start with and the impact you're having on people that is disastrous.

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My last question is, how do you, can you encourage us to speak... By the way, I wrote him a letter to that effect. Was that after the billboard that he put up quoting scripture to encourage people to get abortions? Yep I wrote him a letter. Have you heard back? No. I wonder if you read it. I didn't expect to hear back. I

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wonder if you read it. I felt like I had a responsibility to tell him the truth. Yeah. Can you encourage us to speak with such boldness there because some are scared of confrontation Well that's if you're a Christian that's the reason you're here I

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Mean that that's the reason you're here And if you if you made no enemies you look at your life and said you know I've made no enemies Then you've lived a coward's life If you've never stopped lying if you've never stopped lying, someone from lying, if you've never halted a

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sinner in the path of his sin and therefore made at least initially an enemy, then you've lived a coward's life. You know, you've got to be bold and brave. Yeah, there's a price to pay. I mean, they crucified Jesus. They basically, So basically the religious culture killed all the Apostles if they weren't killed they were exiled Christians have been persecuted through all of human history. That's part of it but when

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Right you Fish reward would be great Hmm indeed it will and I know yours will sir... the book the war on children providing refuge for your children and hostile world pastor john mccarthur pastor and on our sir thank you for so much time this morning and for your your lifetime of service to the lord what pleasure they haven't passed on the car they're my slated on locals dot com website, transcript no commercial myself no commercial myself dot locals

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And hopefully this can be helpful in some way. This guy called in, he's a volunteer firefighter in his town in Texas. It's about two hours away from Kerrville where the worst of this flooding happened. And he was on his way with 15 guys

to go and help the local fire department there in whatever way they could be of assistance. And he was gonna spend the night, or spend the week, the week at a friend's house. All the guys were gonna spend a week at a friend's house. So I think we made appropriate honor given to him,

the 15 guys taking a week out of their lives I think of we made appropriate honor given to him, the 15 guys taking a week out of their lives, away from their families, and then this friend putting up all these guys for a week so they could all help out and search for many of these girls who are still missing. So we took that phone call from that wonderful gentleman.

Then we took a Breitbart reporter from Texas who described the scene and what happened. The background of this is there was this massive thunderstorm, 15 inches of rain in just a few hours, very slow moving. And it just happened to be in this one area where all the water drained into this one river.

And our Breitbart reporter said that if this storm was a mile in a different direction, then the water would have drained into multiple different rivers and it wouldn't have been as dramatic of an effect. And then it happened to be 4th of July.

So there were a lot of people camping along the river. If it happened any other day, there wouldn't have been as many people in there. So we talked to our Breitbart reporter who was there, told the whole backstory. And I made some point, because how do we talk about this and then pivot into any other news story that I did? So I was like, I got to try to make some point here. So the point

I decided to make was if you're 99% in on something, life is really hard. If you're 99% in on something, life is really hard.

If you're 100% in, then life is really easy.

And I use the example of working out. I think that's the clearest example. If you're 99% in on running, that sounds pretty good, right? I'm 99% in, but that 1% of not in is a total drag.

Pulling you down, pulling you back, But that 1% of not in is a total drag.

Pulling you down, pulling you back, whining and complaining all the time. Every morning you wake up, ugh, I don't want, ugh, I hate running, ugh. That 1% is brutal. Being 99% in is not good. And you may go still run, but it's just difficult.

But if you're 100% in, life is simple. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's simple. You wake up, get out of bed, go run. That's it, there's no debate, there's no question, you're not questioning, you just get up and do it. There's no other way.

And that's what that caller was, I believe his name was Clint. And he called in, he's telling him what he's going to go do. And I said, well, why are you doing this? What's in it for you? And he said, well, this is what life is all about. And this is what God teaches us to do.

So he's 100% in. He's a volunteer firefighters. He made that decision to be 100% in a long time ago. So there was no question about what he should do. Like, I don't know, should I go to the Kerrville? It's like two hours away. I don't know, I got a lot of stuff going on this week.

This wasn't really in the plan. I don't know. And I'll kind of just be a bother to people. I better just stay back and not do it. Right, so there you go, it's out. That 1%, if he was 99% in it, that 1% would have won. But it was 100% easy, so it was a simple decision. Should I get up and drive and spend a week

camping at my friend's house? Sure, and not only will I do it, of coursepool up and do it together. Cause he's a hundred percent in. So I shared that thought. And then Lee called in from North Carolina and I want to play her comments in full. And then I'll come back with a biblical point.

She makes many, but I'll come back with my own after Lee's phone call. Let's go to Lee over in North Carolina, who can relate a little bit. Lee, good morning.

Good morning. How are you?

Really good. Tell me your story, Lee.

Well, I run a nonprofit called Patriot Relief that started after Helene hit Western North Carolina. And I'm actually headed to a long-term recovery group meeting this morning because we're still trying to get people back home. And your 99% comment, I just had to call in because after police hit North Carolina

and we are trying desperately to find our people and then to get them in cover, we started building shelters. And there's this fellow named Scott from Tennessee who had lost his wife. And when I put out the call for volunteers to come help build shelters, buddy, he got in his car and drove to North Carolina, slept in his car for three days to help me build shelters.

And he never once just said I shouldn't have been here. He found a way to plug in. And so all I can say is that if anybody's listening to this, and your heart is pulled to Texas, you pray first. You donate whatever you can to local orgs like the Kerrville Foundation.

Get your money as local as you can. But if you show up at the right time, the organizations there will plug you in, and it means everything to the people. I just, I can't stress enough, we understand it in North Carolina in a very visceral way

and there is no reason to stop hoping and to stop working. And so everything you said in that segment and everything Clint said, all I could say over here in Dakar was, amen.

What did Scott want and what did he get for his three days of efforts?

Well, what he wanted was to be helpful, right? And he didn't know what he would be able to contribute, but he drove over because we were on the wing in a prayer trying to figure out how to provide shelter because we were dealing with the lack of response from the state and from the feds. We were dealing with the geographical challenge that Clint wasn't trying to explain that for all these politicized people. Understanding the geography is very challenging.

But when Scott got here, it was how do you use me? And then we didn't even know he was sleeping in his car, Mike. We found that out on about day three when we spotted him in the back of his Suburban. Well, the community college had raised their hand, and their kids were helping us build shelters, too. And Dern is the guy that runs the construction program,

didn't carry Scott home and let him sleep at his house. And they became best buddies because Scott told me at the end of that weekend that he had been looking for purpose after his wife passed and being able to help somebody else helped him get his mind back to a place of good and looking forward.

And he didn't know what he needed, except he knew he had to say yes. And that's what a calling looks like. And he answered it, and he came, and then he winds up with a new best friend, and then he's volunteering with the community college kids.

And I mean, my mother's heart was just exploded to watch all the goodness happen. And there's no way to put a dollar value on that. And I'll tell you that the phrase I was told a long time ago was at a point in your life, you learn, then you earn, and then you return and Scott had found his way to return on behalf of everything he knew for somebody he'd never see again.

Okay, hold on. I'm not going to let that gem go away one more time. What, what are the three say it again first you

learn then you earn then you return what's the return explain the return for me yes okay you have a chance to give back and it's not about being a big philanthropist I think some people think about giving back as, oh, I've got to be Rockefeller kind of money, but you don't. You just have to find a way to be helpful

at some point in some way. And I mean, when I started doing relief work because it's my state, it's my people, I had to put my business on hold to do this. And my poor husband says he's married to a whirlwind and I guess he is, but we have the abilities because we've earned and put back money that we said

you know what now's the time to give back and we'll worry about the finances later and I'm grateful for that hundred percent at mindset and I just think that segment just got to me so hard because When you surrender to the Lord, you wind up in places you didn't expect doing work you didn't ask for and the outcome is bigger than you've ever expected.

Oh, there you go. You hit it right there. I'm on the patriotrelieffund.com website and I'm looking at a picture of you, Lee, and a bunch of people behind you. Who are these people, these young people behind you?

Oh, Lord, I don't know which picture it is, but we've been working with high school groups that helped us with supplies. We had community college kids, church groups, homeschoolers, you name it. We've had people of every age and category that have helped us in Western North Carolina. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, that picture you have was one of our supply drives on about day three of the Helene aftermath when we were having to go around

the FEMA roadblocks to get to people. And there's just a certain moment in your life when you realize you take care of people first and you worry about the rules later. And we did not put anybody's safety at risk, but we weren't willing to let anybody suffer while we had a chance to help.

Sure.

Let me, let me selfishly ask you one more question, Lee. So my TV producer said, Hey Slater, you should do a politics by faith on the flooding. And it might one of my podcasts it's like well geez like I know what to say like what the heck what what honey I can tell you so many miracles

I've watched happen in these mountains oh lord we can talk about that for days

give me give me one send me in a direction what good what good what and what God how about this what God would allow this to happen, Lee?

It's not that God allows it to happen. It happens and God shows us what to do through it. We can't be blaming God for everything but then demand that we have our own agency. I mean, you have to pick a lane. God does not protect us from storms, but He brings us through them. And so you look at what happens on the other side, all right, so get this. We did this program at Christmas called Winter Wonderland. It was the brainchild of my girlfriend, Michelle, and some of her schoolteacher friends.

And they said, we're going to put together Winter Wonderland for children in one of the schools who had a great loss of family members and lost everything. But her brainchild, and she's so smart, Michelle Clark, I just got to give her a shout out, she said the children have received a lot, they need to remember how to give as well. And so she put together this program with gifts for moms and dads and grandparents, and the kids could come to the school, pick out gifts for their loved ones,

instead of just getting Santa for themselves. So she was talking to me in the car, and she said, we don't have enough dad gifts, and we've got a bilingual area, actually it's their Spanish speaking area, because you have a lot of agricultural visa workers

in the mountains during apple season and tree season. So we're riding down the road and I said, well, how many do you need? She said, I need 200. Not two seconds later, my phone rings and it's a lady I've never met. She follows me online. She was out of Georgia and she said, I volunteer with Dr. Stanley's ministry.

And I said, like the Dr. Stanley, like Charles Stanley, like the king of the pastor, you're gonna watch at home when you have the flu?" And she said, yes. And I said, all right. And so she said, I work in this ministry, we have, get this, 200 Spanish and English Bibles that are solar operated.

They're little recorded Bibles, like a little iPod. And I said, you got how many? And she said 600, and Michelle's sitting over here in the car looking just white as a sheet. She couldn't believe this was happening. So this lady sent them to us, and then we include them for this program.

Well, then another lady reached out and she said, I finally got access to this one trailer park where some Hondurans live, and they had some trust issues, but they needed to be served. And so we gave her a whole pile of those English and Spanish solar power Bibles and tears come running down their face because all they wanted was to hear God's Word in their language and to allow

to be served. And so that's just one example, but it's that perfect provision what you need, when you need it, so that the people can be served. It's amazing.

All right, Leigh, I'm gonna be one more hard question. What is your prayer for the parents and the families of the kids who have been killed by this flooding? What are you praying for for them? Well, I pray that

they will have a hedge of protection against all of the negative and evil faults that they will be encountering because Satan is the master of chaos and the master of division and God is the God of order. And so they need to be protected to have peace, be protected to have comfort. Those that will get their baby girls back need to have protection against survivor guilt because that's a real thing.

And they're going to feel like there's something that they did wrong that they got their baby girls back, even though they're grateful. And so I just, I pray that they are protected. And one of the prayers that we have to always pray is that they are able to continue saying the names of their baby girls, that the ones that have are able to continue saying the names of their baby girls, that the ones that have gone home to be with the Lord, because

they know the Lord takes children home, and that they not be treated like the social media world treats grief. And I think it's a challenge that we have in today's world. Your timeline moves really quickly in social media, but you're sitting over here buried in grief and the rest of the world has moved on. And I watch it in Western North Carolina every day. There's people that are still suffering and they feel forgotten. So we have to make sure those families don't feel forgotten and

they don't stop feeling protection. This is not why you called in, but are you still doing work and Patriot Relief Fund still need money?

Oh, we can't stop and we won't stop.

And in fact, we were having a meeting last week with about four of the non-profits that

sprang up out of this.

And we were just discussing how obviously we weren't the grifters because we're still here. And there were a lot who came in and made money and moved on. But the need for housing is great. Obviously, we weren't the grifters because we're still here and there were a lot who came in and made money and moved home. But the need for housing is great. The need for trauma support is still here.

Because you remember every time it rains, our people feel a sense of panic and they hear the wind and they feel a panic. And the same things will happen in Texas. And so we are still serving. We are still getting people back in houses and still figuring out how to help them put their lives together so that they will not feel forgotten.

And eventually, over the next 12 months, we'll have our structure in place at Patriot Relief to have chapters around the country. So we've already served Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, and we're figuring out how to make this thing scale. Because as it turns out, if you are the boots on the ground,

which is what they're discovering in Kerrville right now, there's a power they have that the big organizations have lost touch with. And so that's why I tell people, give as locally as you can to take care of people where their needs are.

Okay, you didn't call for this reason, but I will give it out, Patriotrelieffund.com. Patriotrelieffund.com. Lee, you are wonderful. Thank you for calling in.

Well, thank you for taking my call and thank you for what you're doing. And I'm just so grateful and thank you. You're the best. Thank you, Lee.

How wonderful is all that? So what are we to do in a tragedy like this? I don't think anything I say here would be of any comfort to the families who lost little girls, daughters, and loved ones in this tragedy. I believe you need to know the truth well before tragedy hits in order to be able to weather the unimaginable pain that losing a child like this would bring. A couple of things that are true.

This is a fallen world. God remains sovereign and good. It is also true that the natural state in this fallen world is not to have anything. Not to have a house, not to have clothes, not to have food, not to have beautiful children. The natural state in a fallen world is nothing but suffering and toil and pain. That's the natural state. We are spoiled. We are spoiled. We think, especially pagans, think that the natural

world is health and perfection and wonder all the time. Whatever I want, all the time. That's not it. That's not the natural state. Similar idea, pagans think that people are born good. Same idea. And they believe that the world is good, naturally. But Christians know that human nature is not born good and should also know that the natural state of existence is not roses. We've been spoiled with so many blessings that God has given us. Every second that we have a good thing is a blessing from God. It is also true that suffering is a blessing too. Romans 8 17. And if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with

Christ. If indeed we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified together. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time, the sufferings of this present time, horrible flooding, little girls killed, are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. So I read a couple commentaries on this verse that I think are noteworthy. If indeed we suffer with him, we will suffer. If we want the inheritance, we will suffer. We will share in the sufferings that exist in this life before we go to heaven. And we suffer with him. Part of being in error with Christ is suffering with Him,

like He suffered on the earth on the cross. I want to quote at length here Alexander McLaren. He was a Bible, a Scottish minister in the mid-1800s. He wrote a commentary. He said, Brethren, you and I have, each of of us one in one way, one another, all in some way, all in the right way, none in too severe a way, none in too slight a way to tread the path of sorrow. He says, is it not a blessed thing that we go along that dark valley of the shadow of death down into which the sunniest paths

go sometimes, to come amidst the twilight and the gathering clouds. Is it not a blessing to come upon tokens that Jesus has been on the road before us? They tell us that in some trackless lands, when one friend passes through the pathless forests, he breaks a twig ever and anon as he goes, that those who come after may see the traces of his having been there, and may know that they are not out of the road. Oh, when we are journeying through the murky night and the dark woods of

affliction and sorrow, it is something to find here and there a spray broken or a leafy stem bent down with the tread of his foot and the brush of his hand as he passed, and to remember that the path he trod he has hallowed, and thus to find lingering fragrances and hidden strengths in the remembrance of him as in all points tempted like as we are, bearing grief for us, bearing grief with us, bearing grief like us." We are called to suffer with Jesus. He says, trials have no meaning unless they are means to an end.

The end is the inheritance and sorrows here, as well as the spirits work here, are the earnest is the inheritance. And sorrows here, as well as the spirit's work here, are the earnest of the inheritance. Measure the greatness of the glory by what has preceded it." Ooh, check this out. God takes all these years of life and all the sore trials and afflictions that belong inevitably to an earthly career and work them, into the blessedness that shall come. If a fair measure of the greatness of any result of productive power be the length of time that is taken for getting it ready, we can dimly conceive what that joy must be,

for which seventy years of strife and pain and sorrow are but a momentary preparation, and what must be the weight of that glory which is the counterpoise and consequence to the afflictions of this lower world." I think the point here is that the struggles we go through in our life, it's just a down payment on the inheritance of the glory that is to come. And every year of hardship that we live through on earth,

it's just, it's preparation. Like if you judge the value of something by how long it took to prepare, I mean, you've lived a whole life with so much suffering in it, but what does that mean for the joy that is to come? And this isn't some like self-help,

mamsy-pamsy, this is Romans 8 we're talking about here. This mid-1800s Scottish preacher goes on, the further the pendulum swings on the one side, the further it goes up on the other. The deeper God plunges the comet into the darkness out yonder, the closer does it come to the sun at its nearest distance, and the longer does it stand basking and glowing in the full blaze of the glory from the central orb.

So in our revolution, the measure of the distance from the farthest point of our darkest earthly sorrow to the throne may help us to measure of the closeness of the bright, perfect, perpetual glory above when we are on the throne. For if so be that we are sons, we must suffer with him. If so be that we suffer, we must be glorified together." Joseph Benson wrote a commentary, like 1810 or so, he said of this scripture that we may be also glorified together.

He said, "...with him, which we cannot be in any other way than by suffering with him. He was glorified in this way. And so must we be. Well, how about that? If Jesus is glorified through suffering, then we must as well. Here, the apostle passes to a new proposition on which he enlarges in the

following verses, opening a source of consolation to the children of God in every age, that's what we need, by drinking at which they may not only refresh themselves under the severe sufferings, but derive new strength to bear them with fortitude. This promise is what we're drinking to refresh ourselves from these severe sufferings. But not only that, but also to get new strength so we can bear it with fortitude. Amazing. And here's the encouragement. It comes from Peter, 1 Peter

4 to 13. To the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing so that also at the revelation of his glory you may rejoice with exaltation. What kind of suffering? All the kinds. Disease, death, natural disasters, losing a child, any hardship that may destroy your faith and lead you away from God, that's suffering. But don't let it lead you away from God. Let it bring you closer to him.

If or when something like this happens to me, I'm going to be an absolute mess. And I would have to remind myself over and over, over and over constantly,

every second of the day, the truth of the Bible about the suffering of this world,

about how children go to heaven and the promise of seeing them again.

I had to remind myself of things that are true that still be a mess. All of this is so easy to say, so easy to even know, not easy to live. I want the confidence of Lee, and I wanna be 100% in like Clint from Texas. All I can suggest is whatever suffering you're going through

is to keep going. There's a famous story that was first told by John Newton, early 1700s. He said, suppose a man was going to New York to take possession of a large estate. John Newton was in England.

So New York was very far away in the 1700s. So very long journey. So you're going to, it's a huge journey to go to New York and you're gonna get this huge estate, it's gonna be amazing. Just imagine giant house, swimming pool, the whole thing that works. And his carriage should break down a mile before he got to the city.

Oh, and it obliged him to walk the rest of the way. What a fool we should think him. If we saw him wringing his hands, blubbering out all the remaining mile, my carriage is broken. My carriage is broken. You're one mile away from the estate. You are so close to heaven.

Keep going.

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June 30, 2025

Zohran Mamdani and Masquerading Light

Politics By Faith, june 30, 2025

Be careful of people and ideas who look like The Light, but it's all an act.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thank you for being here. One big beautiful bill. That is the main news of the day. I want to take a bit of that and also highlight something a bit different before I forget it.

We'll bring it all together.

Zoran Memdani may be the next mayor of New York City. This is the 33-year year old Muslim communist from Uganda. The latest mini controversy is that his team made a video of him talking about something where he's eating some rice dish with his hands. Like an animal.

Like they do in a foreign, perhaps third world country.

And it's all performative. like they do in a foreign, perhaps third world country.

And it's all performative. He's got the microphone on a shirt. Like he could have waited to eat and answer the question without, but he did on purpose. And also he knows how to use a fork and knife. There's other campaign pictures of him eating a burrito with a fork and knife, which is a food item

that you're supposed to eat with your hands. So he's doing them both backwards. But the point is, eating with the hands, it's all performative gesture. It's a game, it's an act to appeal to certain people to get attention as well.

And they knew what they were doing. They're like, here, eat this with your hands. They knew. Someone on Twitter said, His mother is a world famous Academy Award nominated Bollywood director worth tens of millions of dollars. His father is a chaired professor at Columbia. He is a perpetual theater kid who's pretending to be third world.

The great Rob Henderson said, rich kid eats rice with his hands. More performative modesty aimed at manipulating you into thinking he's just a regular guy like Castro and his fatigues or Mao and his peasant tunic always the same playbook with rich kid socialists It's also funny. It's a funny place that we're at in politics where we used to mock politicians because they were eating pizza the wrong way or are they they would look awkward when eating a hot dog at the State Fair and

Now we have politicians running for office who are eating rice with their hands. All right, but here's my main point here. I want to steal this from Cernovich. He said, in our inverted society, and indeed everything's backwards,

the demons look soft and non-threatening, and the angels look scary, which is biblical. Mamdani is on the cover of the New Yorker and he looks great. It's a nice photo shoot and smiling and it's all, it's all nice. Communism, but with a nice happy smile on it, soft and non-threatening. The demons look soft and non-threatening.

The angels look scary, which is biblical. And he's right. Satan is not what our pop culture portrays him to look like. I think it's actually an act of the devil to have him portrayed the way he is with red horns and a pitchfork and all that. But the Bible says that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Second Corinthians 11, 14. He's also the father of lies, John 8, 44. So of course he's going to approach us as something good and beautiful

and safe and easy and full of light. Now, to be clear, the Bible doesn't say that Satan is an angel of light, only that he masquerades as one. So that is how we will see Satan and his deeds as light. Light is good in the Bible. John 8, 44 says,

"'Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. Whoever loves his brother abides in the light, and in him there is no cause for stumbling." God created the light, 2nd Corinthians 6, 4, for God who said, let light shine out of darkness has shown in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. It was Moses, wasn't

it? Who after he spoke with God on Mount Sinai, he came back down and his face was shining. Just light pouring off of his face. So light is good. So of course Satan is going to appear as the angel of light. Of course Satan is gonna say, come to me! I am the light! Which is why we have to be very careful. We have to stay close to God, stay close to his word. Psalm 119 says, your word God is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. So how do you stay close to God and know that it's his light? You read the Bible. Your word, the Bible, is a lamp to our feet, lights our path.

Now on the flip side, which is also pretty interesting, God's angels are so terrifying that people fall to their knees. And every time the angel has to say, fear not. Now you've maybe seen this before on the internet. Some artists made biblically accurate angels Now, you may have seen this before on the internet.

Some artists made biblically accurate angels. You can search for that at your own caution here. These are artist composites of Ezekiel. Ezekiel 1, his vision of God and his throne. And Ezekiel goes into detail here. Let's see here. Each had four faces and each had four wings. Their hands of a man were under the wings on their four sides. Each had four faces and wings.

Their wings touched one another. Let's see. There's more craziness here. Each of the four had the face of a lion on the right side. Each of the four had the face of an ox on the left side. Each of the four had the face of an eagle. A little further down on Ezekiel. Here it is. This is about wheels. Here we go. The appearance of their workings was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. When they moved, they went towards any one of four directions. They did not turn aside when they went. As for the rims, they

were so high. They were awesome. And the rims were full of eyes all around the four of them. So it's a circle full of eyes. When the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them. Goodness me. So, if you saw one of those, you wouldn't be like, oh, yay, look an angel. You would fall on your face and the angel would have to say, don't be afraid. Now, I don't know if that's what all angels look like. There's certain angels, I'm not an angel expert here, but the point is the inversion,

where Satan and demonic influences in this world come as light, and people are attracted to that, just like people are attracted to socialism, because it always looks good. I don't think it sounds good even. A lot of people say that, they'll be like,

oh, maybe communism sounds good, but it never works. I don't even think it sounds good. But some people still think that it is a light. Now, if I have to tie in the one big beautiful bill, which we'll do more on tomorrow, surely, it's just the deceitfulness of all of it.

The accounting, how they measure this, calculate that, move this around, change a word here or there. We'll do more on the radio show tomorrow of the Inflation Reduction Act, the green new scam stuff that's in it and taken out of it and then put back in it

and then a couple words changed here and there. So again, we'll do more of this tomorrow, but the house had in there that you will remove your solar subsidy if, unless something is in construction by a certain date. So this new wind or energy or solar project

has to be in construction by next year. But in construction only means 5% of the project. That's it. And that's in construction. So people are just gonna throw 5% into a project and then, oh, we're in, we're good.

And then they get four more years of subsidies. And the Senate did change it to, no, no, it's gotta be placed in service, which means it has to be done by the end of the year 2028. So a couple slight word changes here changes the whole game.

And the Senate's going back and forth on that whole thing. So we'll give you an update on what the Senate does with that tomorrow. But there's so much deceit in politics and that is one of the reasons why it's so chaotic and of course one of the reasons why there's so much anxiety around it as well. So much lying, so much deceit, so much ignorance, trying to control an entire country of 330 million Americans. Our founding fathers knew better. But free and

easy and entitlements and all this stuff, all these, this, this fake light seems so appealing and we've fallen for it for so long. Now people can't even imagine another way. We'll see how the one big beautiful bill does tonight. But my point is here, stay close to God so that we know when it is actually Satan masquerading as the angel of light and be aware of ideas and policies and philosophies that masquerade as truth as well. and be aware of ideas and policies and philosophies that masquerade as truth as well.

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