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Pastor John MacArthur Interview
Politics By Faith, April 2, 2024
July 02, 2024

What an honor to talk to Pastor MacArthur. We talked about his new book "The War On Children" and also got into Joe Biden, Donald Trump, the only way we can save this country, and his choice words for Gavin Newsom.


Welcome to Politics by Faith, brought to you by the Patriot Gold Kurukwa. An honor it was to talk to the great Pastor John McArthur on the show this morning. That's on Breitbart News Daily. He doesn't do a lot of interviews, and the fact that he agreed to chat with us is just fantastic. So I wanted to put it over here for you so you can enjoy the entire interview. Pastor McArthur.

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All right, let's get to the important stuff now. A man who has had an incredible influence in my life and my family's life. He's the pastor of Grace Community Church in Los Angeles, author of 150 books. Gty.org, grace2u.org is an incredible resource. Chancellor of the Masters University and Seminary, the MacArthur Study Bible, over a million sold his newest book the war on children providing refuge for your children hostile world pastor john mccarthur passes an honor to talk to you sir good morning

0:01:02
in my view mike my privilege

and and thank you for waking up early force what you know the wake-up time pastor

0:01:08
it's not five o'clock

0:01:12
Well, thank you. Thank you for doing it for us close, but close, but you missed it by about an hour. That's

0:01:17
Got a ton of questions for you, sir, but let's start with the book of course You've you've been through a lot of decades Which is a nice way of saying you're old sir, but you see you've seen a lot was as you look back Was there something that you can you can point to and you're like, ah, yes, yes, that, that was a turning point. Or that, I don't want to say the start of it all, because that goes back a long time, but that was a major acceleration of dissent at that time.

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Yeah, it's a really perceptive question. I don't want to get wrapped up in too long an answer. But in the first chapter of Romans, the Apostle Paul writes that the wrath of God is revealed against the society when there's a sequence. And the first sequence is a sexual revolution. And three times the Bible says God gave them over. When there's a sexual revolution, and this is repeated through history, nation after nation after nation. When there's

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a sexual revolution, it says God gave them up to immorality, followed by a homosexual revolution and God gave them up to the consequences of that behavior. And then it's followed by a third part that's basically a reprobate mind, a homosexual revolution, and a reprobate mind, meaning they don't think right. I used to wonder, what is that? Well, it might be when you try to turn a boy into a girl, or a girl into a boy.

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I can't think of anything more insane than that. And you might mutilate them in the process. There's an insanity loose in our culture that is the exact sequence going from a sexual revolution, go back to the playboy era, the homosexual revolution which we all know very much about, which has taken over leading into the transgender, which is the insanity. And it's at that point that you can say, at least in Romans 1, God gave them over.

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God gave them over. God takes his hand off at that point. And so there's a forfeiture by that culture of divine blessing. And they put themselves in a serious position before God. So I look at those kind of three sequential steps as the most defining, from a biblical standpoint, the most defining things as to why this culture is where it is.

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Do you ever think that we would see a drag queen story hour for children in schools?

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No, and that's part of that third insanity, the reprobate mind, when people don't even think straight. And then when your government and your president says his priority is to make sure that he elevates and honors and protects those people engaged in that kind of thing, the insanity has reached the highest level and they are the levers of power and from a civil standpoint there's no way back.

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You mentioned Playboy a second ago. Hugh Hefner is such a fascinating study to me in our society. When he passed away how many years ago? Just heralded as this hero, this man among men and he's living every man's dream, but you actually look at his life and he was just miserable. Everything about his life was disgusting and the people around him, and even the mansion was filthy and wretched on the inside in every, even like physical way.

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How did we get so wrapped up in all Hugh Hefner and the glamour of it all?

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Well, because every human being is born in sin. Everyone who is born is born into the kingdom of darkness. Everyone who is born is basically a part of the family of Satan. And so when you sell the lust of the flesh, you're tracking with fallenness. I mean, that's... Why is it so hard to break pornography?

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pornography. Why do I talk to a guy on his deathbed who's 80 years old who says to me, my greatest regret is that I hate the word pornography? What was that about? What was that about? I mean, that's powerful and that's in an unregenerate heart, transformed by the gospel. So, yeah, as it can possibly be, because there's an appetite for that.

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Yeah. Talking with John MacArthur, pastor of Grace Community Church in LA. The new book is called The War on Children, Providing Refuge for Your Children in a Hostile World. Let me read this quote here, just on the point you just made. Our culture today is the product of centuries of vile and horrific sins.

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It's been shaped by the wretched desires and wicked intentions of hell-bent hearts. It is a universal reality that each generation passes on to the next a more corrupt world than the one they inherited. In my lifetime alone, the world has rapidly grown more comfortable with sin and more eager to celebrate its pervasive influence. I shudder to think, should the Lord tarry, how future generations will sink further into

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sin." is you go into important detail on the history of child sacrifice. And to me, that's always been my sort of made up rock bottom. I'll know we hit rock bottom when we do actual satanic ritualistic sacrifice. A million aborted babies is a horrific number. But like putting in front of the altars of Baal.

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And it turns out the other day the president of el salvador talked about how ms thirteen gang members of the satanic rituals on children in anything well like we're here and you're going to really important detail on on the history of that why do you go into the detail of that and and is that rock bottom to you

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you're absolutely right mike that i mean that's rock bottom you take basically the most defenseless, the most innocent, the most helpless of all humanity, and you murder them, or you maim them, or you mutilate them, or you pervert them. I mean, this is the worst of...

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I mean, I guess the only thing worse than that is lying about things that are biblical, lying about the Bible. Maybe it's the very worst thing, but not too far off from that is being a phony healer who takes people who are sick, diseased, broken, handicapped, and promising them healing if they send you their money. But that's pretty close to low, but it doesn't reach the level of just outright using children as, yeah, as sacrifices to the God of self.

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You're right, that's just sad.

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It's been common, it's been common through all of human history.

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Yes.

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And I have a chapter in the book that basically delineates that. I mean, that even Israel got involved in sacrificing their children to Molech. And God said to them, even the pagans who sacrificed their children to Baal or Molech, those are my children. And Jesus said the same thing when he picked up a little child in his arms and said, allow this child to come to me for of such is the kingdom of heaven. There's a sense in which children belong to God

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And, yes, society can't get more base than to take the most helpless, the most innocent, and the ones who are at that point under divine protection, even a part of the kingdom of God, and destroys them.

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Yes.

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Tell me, John MacArthur, new book, The War on Children, Providing Refuge for Your Children in a Hostile World. I think the most haunting part of all that other than it. He wrote, Mothers, according to Plutarch, as they would physically take this born child and put him in the fire, stood by without tears or sobs.

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If they wept or sobbed, they lost the honor of the act, and their children were sacrificed nonwithstanding. That's such a haunting story about how profoundly the human soul can be seared and seared by culture or what? I don't even know what, like what is that? What causes that type of, that's not stoicism, that seared conscience.

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Well, it goes back to that Romans 1 thing.

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It's a descent. It starts out with immorality and then it becomes perverse sexuality in some form or another. You can see that in ancient history as well. And then you, there's only one more step and that's to insanity. And that's where you wind up mutilating children,

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killing children, using children. You know when the gay lobby says, we're coming after your children. That's a warning from hell.

0:11:14
Yeah.

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Or they're not your children.

0:11:16
Um, you talk about, yeah, they belong to the nation or they belong to the village.

0:11:21
Yeah.

Here's Joe Biden. Um, there's no such thing as someone else's child.

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Our nation's children are all our children and Kamala, maybe our next president. That's from a man, that's from a man who obviously didn't know how to raise children. We all believe that when we talk about the children of our community they are children of the community says Kamala, which is funny but also because it's non-sequitur but hilarious but sad too. But that's what these people think, that's what these progressives have always thought. They're not yours,

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Pastor MacArthur. Children are not ours, children are not a private

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Now they're to be offered up for whatever purposes the culture wants if it's blood sacrifice. So be it if it's to change the nature of Society to change culture. I mean if you want to change the culture you go for the kids I mean we all have seen the literature that's come out on the arrival of the cell phone in 2010 and between 2010 and 2015 teenage suicides begin

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to go up. Teenage girls become victims of discontent at a level they've never been at and now we're still reaping the suicidal effects of all of that. And that's all orchestrated, You know, your teenage, 14-year-old girl draws something down out of the internet, and the next thing you know, it's just a barrage of that coming at her, coming at her, until her whole approach to life is altered dramatically and powerfully by the instrument she holds in her hand.

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How do you protect children from the worst in a society if they've got it in their hand? And the purveyors of all of that are after them.

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Yes, yes, yes. And it's your book. We need to provide a refuge for our children. But you always hear this, Pastor, of, oh, we don't want to shield our children, or, you know, we don't want them to be weirdos and not acclimate, or not, what's the right word they use, assimilate to society or whatever. You know, we don't want to protect them too. We don't want to over protect them, Pastor.

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Well, I have a fear of parents who often make their own choices. You know, that's a real, a big disaster. Parents don't prepare for the purpose of training children where they should go. They're not prepared. They're not going to depart from it. That's obvious. Child is a product of training. Some kind of training, even if it's minimal training or even it's training in bad things, the child is a product

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of parental influence and the societal power. And in this society, the parents are left to really to fight the battle alone. And I think that's where the church has to step in and provide the social structure and the larger family to aid parents, because the culture is bent on the destruction of children.

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Yes, that's right.

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I mean, they're literally bent on it. It's a target. It's not incidental. It's a target. They want to sell everything that they have, economically and morally or immorally to the children. They're the least able to resist the impact. So parents have to take on a defense mode. You can go back 50 years in American culture, and the society would be helpful to parents

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because there was honor in the society and integrity. And things were right, were clearly right. And things that were wrong were clearly wrong that's all been turned upside down inside out uh... to say uh... you know i will let my kid make his own decision in this environment

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basically the most irresponsible thing a parent could do

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uh... so much of your body moment ago uh... how do you in this political season and every political season how do you think about politics and Christianity and anxiety for the future and what's next and this is the most important election of our lifetime. How do you think about this stuff?

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Well, I think about it two ways. Number one, I think about everything biblically. And God is sovereign and he is in charge and he controls everything. And that means that what's going on in our country, as bad as it is, and as satanic as it is, we have to remember that the devil is God's devil. And he's got limits and he's got boundaries.

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So why is what's happening happening? Because when a society, again, turns to sexual immorality, homosexual immorality, and a reprobate mind, God gives them up. There's a sense in which God takes his hand of blessing off that society. And when he gives them up, it means he gives them up to the consequences of their choices. If you follow that pattern, what you get is Joe Biden, who is the epitome of all of those things that I just talked about. Immorality, rampant in his own family at an epic level, and in his own life, now that's been part of his life.

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That's part of it. And then advocating for homosexuality, and then saying he supports all the transgender nonsense. get when you go down the Romans one path because this is in itself is a kind of divine judgment. Is there a way back? There is a way back if we return to the Word of God, if we proclaim the Gospel, if people

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turn to Christ. You can't change a culture any other way than to change hearts, change hearts from the inside out. And that's where the church has to step in. And as a man who's been in the pastures virtually my whole adult life, I have to say the church has miserably failed. The church has worked so hard to look and sound like what people outside the church

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want that it's lost its impact. It's virtually impossible to tell, I think, to a non-believing person, when he goes to a typical mega church service, the difference between that and a rock concert. Where is the church pointing out the sins of... The scripture makes so clear that bring about divine judgment. But the solution is not going to be Donald Trump. That's a huge move in the right direction.

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And, you know, I think if God allows that to happen, that Trump becomes president, you could say that the Lord has kind of put the brakes on a little bit. But the train is moving so fast down the direction of having been abandoned by God that unless there's a huge spiritual turnaround, there's no way to stop this. And that falls to the church and Christian people. And that means that you... Obviously, we care about politics because we care about sin and righteousness, and we want to uphold righteousness, but Christian people also have to care a whole lot more about the gospel that alone can transform people's hearts.

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We can be concerned about temporal things like politics, but the reason we're in this world is to proclaim the saving gospel of Christ, the transformation that he brings can change a family and change a community and change a nation. Amen. I wonder, I have

0:19:48
to do another study on this, about Jonathan Edwards and what what the soil was like in the early 1700s in America where a revival or an awakening could take place and could that could something like that happen again? It has to, right? That's all I hope. But could something like that happen in the soil that we have today that is our culture? Yeah, if there's a

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return to the Word of God. It falls to pastors. If we start preaching the Bible...

0:20:23
Yeah, it's a big if. Pastor, my last question for you before i uh... courage everyone to buy your fantastic book again if you were walking down the streets today pastor in the city streets of los angeles where you live and have called home for many many decades and you bumped into uh... one gavin newsom

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used smacked right into him uh... the pastor what would you say to gavin newsom

0:20:48
well i did an interview with him and Larry King a few years back. You can check that out. It's pretty interesting. He told me he was a Christian. He was serious about that. And we were discussing the fact that he had basically opened San Francisco to gay marriage.

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And I took issue with that. And he said, well, you know, I'm a Christian also. I said, oh, well, you must believe the Bible." And he stumbled and stammered and said, well, yes, I do. Well, if you believe the Bible, you couldn't possibly advocate same sex marriage. I would say to Gavin Newsom, you don't have the, you don't have, you don't, you put

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yourself in a satanic position to represent the kingdom of darkness rather than the kingdom of God, you know better than this. You were taught better than this. You know what the Bible teaches about morality, even what it teaches about society, family, marriage, culture, even what the Bible teaches about economics. You know all of that, and you are blatantly fighting against God. And I'm concerned about your own soul to start with and the impact you're having on people that is disastrous.

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My last question is, how do you, can you encourage us to speak... By the way, I wrote him a letter to that effect. Was that after the billboard that he put up quoting scripture to encourage people to get abortions? Yep I wrote him a letter. Have you heard back? No. I wonder if you read it. I didn't expect to hear back. I

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wonder if you read it. I felt like I had a responsibility to tell him the truth. Yeah. Can you encourage us to speak with such boldness there because some are scared of confrontation Well that's if you're a Christian that's the reason you're here I

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Mean that that's the reason you're here And if you if you made no enemies you look at your life and said you know I've made no enemies Then you've lived a coward's life If you've never stopped lying if you've never stopped lying, someone from lying, if you've never halted a

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sinner in the path of his sin and therefore made at least initially an enemy, then you've lived a coward's life. You know, you've got to be bold and brave. Yeah, there's a price to pay. I mean, they crucified Jesus. They basically, So basically the religious culture killed all the Apostles if they weren't killed they were exiled Christians have been persecuted through all of human history. That's part of it but when

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Right you Fish reward would be great Hmm indeed it will and I know yours will sir... the book the war on children providing refuge for your children and hostile world pastor john mccarthur pastor and on our sir thank you for so much time this morning and for your your lifetime of service to the lord what pleasure they haven't passed on the car they're my slated on locals dot com website, transcript no commercial myself no commercial myself dot locals

 

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She said they're making the process too hard, Flower says, as she waited with a friend now navigating that system in a benefits office in Phoenix. So the Washington Post doesn't go into any details about Flowers, this woman's life or decisions or any details about anything at all. It sounds like she's a mom who had a lot of kids and doesn't have a job. And there's no dad around. I don't know how many dads, but there's no dad around. So she's got to do something. 

She's got to find it. And now the kids are over 14. So she's got to find a job. She's got to volunteer. She's got to do something already. get food stamps. 

That's it. That's the story. That's the end of their sob. There are no other sob stories. The one thing that was it. The Bible is very clear about this. 

Second Thessalonians 310. If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. End of story. There it is. I don't know if we've ever done anything more like clearly relevant, like a story that where the Bible is like right there. If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. Eat. 

That's the end. That's it. Now again, unwilling to work. There are some people who are unable to work. That's who food stamps should be there to help. We're talking about the unwilling to work. 

And that's what the Bible says to able bodied adults. When this is being debated about, you know, being put in the one big beautiful bill, the left is freaking out about all the disabled people who are on food stamps are getting kicked off. That's not what that was all lie. Like they're fine. This is for able bodied adults. All right, let's go to the Bible here. 

So what do we do with this? So you're so cruel. That's what the Bible says, I don't know what you want me to do. We are also commanded in the Bible, Deuteronomy 15, 11, for there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore, I command you, you shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor in your land. And Paul in Colossians 2 .10 says they desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do. 

Now, again, obvious distinction between the widow and the unwilling. Also, there are some people who are poor because of circumstances out of their control. And we need to have that discernment. And that's where church and charity come in and provide that discernment. The government can't. They can't provide discernment. 

And they've never even really tried. It's like, Trump is like the first attempt at being like, all right, let's tighten this up a bit. What would a church do? What standard would a charity have? As opposed to just the government handing out money to illegal aliens and everyone else that just asks. We used to also have a society with shame, where people were ashamed to get welfare. 

In the movie, it was a Cinderella man where the boxer goes after he wins a fight, he goes back to the welfare office and gives the money back to the welfare office. Not only have we made efforts to de -stigmatize, I think that should be stigmatized, but we, you know, we call it, instead of calling it food stamps, we called it WIC and now we call it SNAP. Sounds fun. And we've replaced the actual physical stamps. There used to be actual stamps with this digital card, so no one knows, but there should be some stigma on it actually. Here's what I want to talk about though, in light of this story. 

Sermon on the Mount. We are often told to Not judge. Don't judge. Can't judge. Judge not. Jesus said. 

Jesus says don't judge. I love when non -Christians tell you they'll do something horrific. And we're like, that's not a good idea. They'll say, oh, that guy in that book that I don't believe in says you can't judge me. Not allowed to judge anyone. Can't judge people for their behavior, for their actions, for their lifestyles. 

No judging ever. Jesus said judge not. But of course he did not mean to never have discernment. And we know that's not what he meant because the very next section says do not give dogs what is holy and do not throw your pearls before pigs lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you how do i know who the dogs are if i can't judge how can i watch out for people in sheep's clothing, for wolves in sheep's clothing who appear to be harmless and honest, but I can't judge if they're wolves or not. Jesus said, don't judge. 

Jesus said, you shall know them by their fruits, but I can't judge fruit, good or bad, not allowed to do anything. Of course, that's not what Jesus meant. Of course, we're supposed to have discernment. I like this insight from Mart Lloyd -Jones. This is a section he wrote about passing judgment, or I should say passing. It's like a different term. 

Having discernment within the church, among church members. He said, they show clearly that judgment is to be exercised in the realm of the church. This is worthy of an entire study on its own because owing to our flabby ideas and notions, it is almost true to say that such a thing as discipline in the Christian church is non -existent today. He wrote this in the fifties, maybe. He said, when did you last hear of a person being excommunicated? When did you last hear of a person being kept back from the communion table? 

Go back to the history of Protestantism, and you'll find that the Protestant definition of the church is that the church is a place in which the word is preached, the sacraments are administered, and discipline is exercised. Discipline to the Protestant fathers was as much a mark of the church as the preaching of the word and the administration of the sacraments. But we know very little about discipline, and it's the result of this flabby, sentimental notion that you must not judge, and which asks, who are you to express judgment? But the scripture exhorts us to do so. We're also told to be on the lookout for false doctrine, but we're not allowed to judge. So clearly that's not what it means. 

It doesn't mean you're supposed to turn off your brain. So what does judge not mean? Jesus says, judge not. What is he talking about? Quite simply, it means we should exercise discernment, judgment, but not assume the role of ultimate judge as in condemnation for eternity. We've been told don't judge. 

It doesn't mean turn your brain off from being able to think. No, we're supposed to think critically and carefully and distinguish right from wrong. And we could critique beliefs and teaching and conduct. But we can't pass a final judgment on a person's soul or their worth before God. That final verdict is for God alone. We also have to judge properly with humility and realize that you're no better. 

I'm no better than that person on welfare. It's easy for me to say, oh, you shouldn't do it. And maybe they shouldn't. But you have to say that with the humility of knowing that my entire ability to work, the situations that I've had in my life are all a blessing from God. So you can make a discernment and say that person has no work ethic. It's true. 

You can make a discernment, a judgment and say that person made terrible life decisions about having kids when they shouldn't have had kids, shouldn't have had relations with that guy again, right? Like you can make, you could say that, but also say with the humility of, oh gosh, God, I am so grateful that you gave me parents who had a work ethic to show me what it looks like. And God, I'm so grateful that you gave me an amazing wife and a wonderful family, right? So true criticism is thoughtful and fair and constructive. to them and to others listening. That's fine. 

It's good. I like this summary. Biblical judgment is discerning but humble, principled but charitable, careful but not cynical, and honest about error but hopeful about people. It is right and proper and biblical to say, no, you're able -bodied. You have to work if you want money for food from the government. That's not judgmental. 

We leave the final judgment, however, to God.

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Bryan Johnson Will Die
Politics By Faith, July 8, 2026

Bryan Johnson is a super-rich tech bro who thinks he can biohack his way to immortality. He was just diagnosed with an incurable disease. We can criticize his foolishness, but the truth is, we aren't much different from him.

Welcome to Politics by Faith. This is where we take the news of the day and we bring it to the Bible so you can walk away with peace and perspective. There's new headlines every day. That can be, make me anxious. But Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun. So thanks for being here to get the true story. 

And if you could subscribe to our YouTube page, that'd be great. YouTube . com slash at politics by faith. The story of the day today, Brian Johnson is going to die. Here's what really happened. Have you ever come across this guy before? 

Is that name ring a bell? Brian Johnson. He's a super rich Silicon Valley man. venture capitalist guy. He's not a Christian, so he worships the self. That's what happens when you're not a Christian, you worship yourself. And his form of self -worship is to see if he can live forever. 

That's his goal. His goal, his life goal is to live forever. Now, different tech bros have different ways of doing this. One way is through AI. So the idea here is you upload your entire life and your writings and your emails and all your thoughts up into this AI server so that when you die, you live forever in a computer, right? So people can communicate with you. 

And, and, and you're like, imagine like emailing or texting a deceased parent or child or loved one. That's just, it's just terrifying to me. And so the idea of it is how much, this is the question, like how much of our lives are we going to be living in AI so that when you die, you don't even know you're dead. Like you're still living on in AI. That's what the technology people today, a lot of these tech guys want to try to figure out and make it so that you don't even know you're dead. Like you really think you are living forever. 

It's very matrix sounding, but that's one terrifying thing that some tech guys are doing right now. basically like they want AI to replace the soul so that your soul can live on. Your soul, your AI soul can live on forever here on earth. The other way that this, I want to live forever idea is being implemented is with this guy. Brian Johnson decided that the way he's going to live forever is to literally live forever. like his body he wants his body so i guess a good way of putting this is the the first version i brought up is that's this like fake soul to live on forever brian johnson wants his body to live forever so he's done everything he can to like hack his body. 

He goes to bed at 8 .30 every night, wakes up at 4 .30 precisely every single morning. Goes immediately underneath these lights to set his circadian rhythms. He does, I don't know, his electrode heart rate variability therapy. He does this precise workout regime, eats a precise number of calories every day. He only eats from 6 a . m. 

to 11 a . m. every day, takes like 100 pills a day. Every you know, zinc, all the vitamins and stuff you could possibly imagine, spends millions of dollars a year. He built this home laboratory with this dedicated medical staff to track every aspect of his health, constantly taking blood panels, red light therapy, gene therapies, tried this plasma stuff. One of the creepy ones that got a lot of attention a couple years ago is he would take plasma from his son and inject it into himself, right? 

He claims He has the body of an 18 year old, but he puts every aspect of life into like a checklist, like a box. So one of his aspects of health is he wants to meet with one in -person, he has to have one in -person friendship contact a week to support his social health. And you're like, yeah, that's a good thing to do, but checking a box, that's not really in the spirit of friendship or life. His philosophy, and this is so sad, his philosophy, this is the name of his documentary that he made, like this is his, If you go to his Twitter page or his Facebook page, like this is what it says up at the top is don't die. It's like he's gamified his body for maximum longevity, but he was just diagnosed with an incurable stomach disease. 

He says his stomach is eating itself. So he is going to die. Now we're all going to die. Not sure when exactly. Some people have a better idea of when, as you get closer to the end, kind of a better idea of when the end will be. But even then, you don't know for sure. 

But I can assure you, you will die. We don't like to think about this. I don't know why. I like to think about it. We should think about it. We used to live in a society where you couldn't not think about it. 

People were dying all the time. You probably had six kids who died in child when they were born. Probably had a wife or two who died giving birth. Like you were surrounded by death all the time. Today we're not. We've sanitized it from pretty much every aspect of our life. 

But death was a pretty normal thing. Like most people saw many people die in their life. Have you seen anyone die? Really? And even maybe you think you have in the hospital. or something, like my dad in the hospital, it was also sanitized and hospital -like. 

And you know, then even then the body's whisked away and that's, that's the end, right? So we don't really have any associations with death like we used to. So we kind of forget that we're going to die. So I'm just here to tell you, you will. Now, not everyone has died. True. 

Enoch and Elijah, those are the only two. They were taken by God. Actually, I think the Bible is pretty funny on this. I don't, I don't think the intention here was to be funny, but in Genesis five, uh, it says the days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years and he had other sons and daughters. Thus, all the days that Adam lived were 930 years and he died. When Seth lived 105 years, he fathered Enosh. 

Seth lived after he fathered Enosh 807 years and had other sons and daughters. Thus, all the days of Seth were 912 years and he died. That's the genealogy of Genesis 5. It keeps going on and on and on and it always ends with, and he died. But Enoch was taken by God and Elijah and Elisha were walking together and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. Those are the two. 

And, uh, Brian Johnson's never going to join that list because you cannot hack your way to immortality. And God, so the first thing is you will die. Second thing, God already knows how long you're going to live. He knows when you're going to die and how. Job 14, 5, our days are fixed. The number of our months with you, you set a statute, a statute, and we can't exceed it. 

Our days are fixed. Psalm 139, 16, your eyes saw my unformed substance and your book were written. Every one of them, the days that were formed for me. when as yet there was none of them. So God knows even before you were born, how long you would live. God's outside of time and he knows everything. 

So you can't biohack your way past God's control and power and like take the right number of vitamins. Now, I don't want to totally dismiss all of this. Like some people take that to mean like, well, I can just do whatever. And like, there are things that are still in your control within the days that you have. So God may know that you're going to die when you're 82 years and six days. Oh, but it's not that close to your birthday. 

Although it'd be pretty cool to make it to 82. It's something to celebrate. Whatever the day is, he may have those numbered, but there are things in your control that you can do to make those 82 years and six days better than they otherwise would. Right. Does that make sense? So the amount you move, exercise, all that stuff. 

Right. So there are some things that are within your control, but the days are not. And it's sad that someone could be so deluded into thinking that they can live forever in their earthly body. Maybe it's even worse that someone would want to live forever in their earthly body. So let's go to the Bible. Um, because here's the truth. 

We can talk about how sad it is Brian Johnson for him to live his life in this way, but we all kind of live like it. Not with the doctors and the constant blood panels and all that stuff. We don't, no one lives like that, but we live with the same mentality. We all live like we're going to live forever. or we live like this is all there is. We live like we're going to live forever because we don't. 

do what we need to do now. We don't take care of the things we need to take care of now. We don't do the things we need to do now as if we have forever to do them. And we live like this. We live like this is all there is when we don't consider all the actions, all of our actions based on eternity. This one short blip that we call life. 

We live like this short blip of existence. Is this the end of it? But in reality, eternity is forever. It's sad because Brian Johnson dedicating his life to keeping this forever. But this isn't forever, and it's not meant to be forever, and it's not forever, and it shouldn't be forever, and I don't even want it to be forever, but eternity is. We just can't comprehend it. 

We can't comprehend eternity. Our heads can't wrap our head around it. There's no end to it. We just can't think that way. So we live our life in a way that says, you know, YOLO, you only live once. Who cares what I do here? 

And we live in this fallen atheist society that doesn't even think heaven exists or hell. So we don't think that there's an eternity after it. So as delusional and sad as you think Brian Johnson is, we, for the most part, are much better. We spend so much time on the things of this world and planning for things that we think are coming. And there's prudence, of course. Proverbs talks all about it, but we don't think about eternity. 

I mean, Jesus is so clear. Treasure and set your treasure in heaven. What about my 401k now? It's like, yeah, okay. 401k now, but also treasure in heaven. Like that's where it needs to be. 

And life is a vapor. The Bible says life is a vapor. So how should we live our life? Well, with eternity in mind, with the afterlife in mind. Our life today should be lived with the afterlife in mind. Brian Johnson, his main problem was he didn't think there was an afterlife or he wants to avoid the afterlife. 

He can't. But I want to live in such a way now that I only am considering the afterlife. Jonathan Edwards, he said, our lives, though short, are deep, beautiful, and meaningful if we view them as means to glorify the eternal God. When Jonathan Edwards was young, he was like 19, he vowed, while I do live, I should live with all my might to glorify God. Why is Brian? What does Brian Johnson live for? 

His motto was don't die. Big whoop. Jonathan Edwards motto was something more like live for eternity. And of course, with that comes a yearning to die. I can't wait to die. How great will it be to be in heaven? 

Why do I get to heaven? Great question. Believe that Jesus is the son of God who died for your sins and go get baptized. Peter said, and it's the only way you can't. Avoid it. You can't avoid dying. 

And when you do die, go in one of two places. Peter said in Acts 4 .12, salvation is found in no one else for there's no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. Now in our post -Christian world, we think everyone goes to heaven. If heaven is ever considered a thing that exists, everyone goes there or, you know, you just gotta be nice. All right. But the truth is only Christians go to heaven. 

John 3 .36 says, whoever believes in the sun has eternal life. Eternal life. But whoever rejects the sun. will not see life. For God's wrath remains on them. That's one of my favorite verses right there. 

God's wrath remains. God's wrath is on the unbelievers. already. If you are unsaved from that wrath, then you will go to hell for eternity. If you're saved, then you're saved from hell and you'll go to heaven. Life is short. 

Eternity is forever. Live life accordingly right now. YouTube . com slash at politics by faith. Please subscribe on our YouTube page. Helps us with the algorithm. YouTube . com slash at politics by faith. Spread the word.

 

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JD Vance and The Progressive Pagan Tone Police
Politics By Faith, June 19, 2026

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I love when pagans criticize Christians for not being "Christian enough" or the right type of Christian that they would prefer. Obviously, don't listen to them, but what does the Bible say about the words we speak and the tone we should have?

Welcome to Politics by Faith. It's where we take the news of the day, we bring it to the Bible. The point of this is we need to walk away with some peace and perspective because there's new headlines every day and it's all very anxiety inducing, but Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under the sun. So thanks for being here to get the true story. Story of the day, J . D. 

Vance making the rounds and doesn't like his tone. Got a mean tone. Got to watch that tone. The tone police are out. J . D. 

Vance is making the rounds because he's got a new book out. and he is also a great spokesperson for this administration. So where Trump can sometimes be maybe rough around the edges, Vance is smoother, more polished, if you will. I don't know if that's entirely true. I think Trump is pretty smooth and polished, too, in his own way. But maybe the biggest advantage that Trump, excuse me, that Vance has over Trump is he's not Trump. 

So as much as much TDS people have seething through their veins, pulsing constantly through their entire body and soul, they don't yet have the same hatred for J . D. Vance. They will, don't worry. But right now, there's no such thing as J . D . 

D . S. That's right. One day there will be. Aw, he's even worse than Trump because he actually believes what he's saying. That's what's gonna happen. 

But there's certain places where I would much rather have the president be. Like negotiating with Iran, for instance. Trump's great at these big press conferences. Obviously, he's the best at the rallies. But when it comes to one -on -one with adversaries, I choose Vance all day on that one. All day long, you put Vance in that battle. 

big press conferences, Trump with another world leader, you put Trump. Someone versus, you know, meet the press lady or whatever, you send JD on. No question. JD Vance did great with the Ladies in the View, for instance. We played the entire 25 minutes or so he was on on my radio show. My one critique, if I had to have, critique's not even quite right, a nitpick, is the women on The View, they would hit him with like 48 questions at one time, and he'd have to think in his brain, okay, I have 12 seconds to respond. 

How can I possibly combine all of these questions? How am I gonna be able to find a cohesive thread, coherent thread to your incoherent questions, and somehow come up with an answer that can best encompass everything that's been said here? with a 12 second response and a smile. So there's times when he would say, okay, um, let me say this. You can see his brain. I try to put the pieces together. 

That's my one critique. My goodness. He did as good as any human can do in that unenviable situation. But I want to pick out this moment from the New York times podcast. Russ Dothat as this guy's name or an unpronounced or sign. He's very upset that the administration is not nice enough with their tone. 

Here's what he said. We could have a longer argument about the economics, but I just want to let's let's stipulate that the Trump administration has in some way a kind of vision of rebuilding the working class that's connected to Christianity. Was that hard to say? Was that hard to say, Ross? I'm stipulate for the sake of argument. and the fact that you have not given us three hours to have this discussion, we're stipulating it. 

It also seems to me like the administration has distanced itself in different ways from some other sort of obvious expressions of Christian influence on politics, some of them more sort of liberal coded, some of them more conservative coded, right? Like, the administration has been more hostile than any prior Republican administration, to say nothing of Democrats, in the last 20 years to the way we do humanitarian aid. It has kept religious conservatives, pro -life organizations especially, at arm's length in a way that has led to a lot of criticism. And then, you know, let's be honest, the tone of the administration is not consistently a Christian tone. there is a tone of aggressive uncharity to people who aren't on board with the administration's policies. So I would describe those as three areas where the administration has felt functionally post -Christian to me. 

And I'm curious what you think. Well, so on the first point, well, sorry, the third point. You can work backward. So on the tone thing, This is it's it's very hard to rebut this because it's like fundamentally unfalsifiable because for every clip that you could show me of me or the president or some cabinet secretary saying something that in your view is unchristian i could show you another few clips of us doing something or saying something that is like very christian the nature of political communication in the era of mass media is that sometimes people are going to say jokes that are taken out of context sometimes people are going to say I'm not saying I make mistakes. I talk about this in the book a little. 

In my book, Communion, available where books are sold, I talk about the own mistakes that I've made as a Christian reader in America. There is an apology to childless cat ladies. We don't need to get sidetracked by that. Go on. But my point is, I'm not saying we're perfect because we're not. My point is that the tone argument is in some ways, I think, people see what they want to see. 

And I also think that tonal arguments are ways of, frankly, policing working class ways of communication and covering them in elite preferences. So let's talk about what's broken in this scenario here. So yes, the Bible, God, talks about the way we should speak. Proverbs 51, a soft answer. turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. " President, we've talked about this before, his game theory approach to talking with people and negotiating, but just everything, he will always start positive. 

He'll start kind every time, always. He will always start with a soft answer and a soft response and a soft initiation, always. 1 Peter 3 .15 says, make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and respect. The fruits of the spirit. One of them is kindness. Another is gentleness. 

Also, we are told to speak boldly. Acts 4 .31 says, and when they had prayed, they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and continued to speak the word of God with boldness. " So what do we think boldness, what would boldness mean today? I bet based off of the New York Times editorial board, if they heard a preacher today speak with boldness, they might say, Oh, that tone makes me uncomfortable. That's not very inclusive sound. And we talked about this just the other day. 

The Bible says there is one way to get to heaven. Oh, that's. I don't like your tone. Paul speaks about boldly proclaiming the gospel. First Thessalonians 2 .2. But though we had already suffered, we had been shamefully treated at Philippi. 

As you know, we had boldness in our God to declare you the gospel of God in the midst of much conflict. How were they treated shamefully in Philippi? Or I should say, why? Is it because the people loved so much what they were saying and how they said it? No, that doesn't make any sense. They were treated shamefully, but what does that mean? 

Does that mean, uh, they, they, they preached the gospel boldly. And then people went on Twitter and said, I don't like your tone. No, they were stripped and beaten with rods, all without a trial, of course, then thrown into prison and placed in stocks while bleeding from the beating they just took. And they weren't treated this way because the people of Philippi liked what they were saying. And then all of a sudden, these are two different things. There's what's being said. 

And then there's how it's set. And. Progressive could make the argument, and it's not accurate, but they could make the argument that, oh, they don't mind what the administration's saying, they just don't like how it's set. No, that's you trying to get around. That's just a trick. They don't like what the administration is doing, and they're trying to tone police it as a way to seem like they're morally superior. 

So let's go over the four options though, right? I mean, there's four options. We can make like a chart of these four options. You have bad tone, mean words, good tone, nice words, bad tone, nice words, or good tone, mean words. So maybe this example work, we'll see how it goes. Bad tone, bad words. 

I hate you. Good tone, good word, nice word. Good tone, good, good, good. I love you. Well, let's mix it up. Bad tone, good words. 

I love you. I love you. That's almost like too passionate. How do you do it like hatred? I love you. Good tone, bad words. 

I hate you. The New York Times guy. thinks it's best that we say or do bad things, but in a nice way. That's like the Democrat way. Do bad things, but with a smile. Let's give a political example. 

Maybe this'll make more sense. So the Democrats, they were so nice when they opened up our borders to millions of illegal aliens, many of whom went on to murder and steal and destroy neighborhoods and take jobs and do terrible things. I just saw a story of, it was like 1 ,700 maybe illegal aliens who were arrested in I think like the Houston area. And they went through all their crimes, five murders, 170 burglaries, 78 sex offenses, like 50 against children, 40 domestic abuses, 500 DUIs. Just go down the list. But it was all done with a smile. 

It's so nice. And the poem on the statue says, it's great. The poor, tired, huddled masses. We were so kind when we did this. That's the binary. Bad things, but nicely. 

The Trump administration comes in and says, I actually think they'd said it quite nicely, but they say, you have to go. Oh, that's so mean. Your tone. But that's not even true what I'm saying here, because the real argument is it's the right people. And this is what J . D. 

brought up, right? J . D. after that, where the clip stopped, he said, let me just take a classic example. So the Biden administration had a very humane way of talking about immigration, about illegal immigration. It was very charitable. 

And some of the words that it offered to people who were coming into our country, I would say that it was not particularly charitable to the people who were living with the consequences of mass migration into our country. So at a certain level, what I think matters much more than perceived tone is actual conduct. " Well said, J .D. Vance. There was a similar moment on The View as well. So the questions from a bunch of them at the same time was, the first question from Whoopi was, what did black people do to this administration? that you treat them so terribly." And J . D. was like, what? 

And Whoopi said, she's like, what are you talking about? And they went around the table and they were all like, well, like erasing black history. And he's still like, what are you talking about? But it was all like a tone argument. They were all toned, like the ladies didn't like the tone of this administration or whatever. And J . 

D. says, all right, we've taken over the police department in D . C. , the law enforcement in D . as many murders. Last year, there were Last year, there were 42. 

This year, at the same time period, 20. And that's just murder. I mean, that's like all quality of life crimes are way down. People can go outside. Kids can walk to school. It's a safe city again. 

And it's a predominantly majority Black city. So these are Black people's lives that have improved. So you may not like that we removed a Black history overreach from the Black Lives Matter era. at the Smithsonian. We removed like a sign that was in the Smithsonian about Thomas Jefferson's slaves or something. Is that the most important thing or do you care about actual black lives in DC? 

So that's like, that's a, I think that's like a perfect example of content and tone. So the tone would be, Oh, you're erasing black history. Like, no, they're not. But like, even, but the content is, yeah, but we're saving black people's lives. Don't you care more about what's actually happening? All right, let me go to the Bible. 

So Jesus didn't always have a nice tone. We can't tell the tone really what Jesus was reading, right? But I can't imagine him having a great tone when in Matthew 23, Jesus says to the Pharisees, woe to you, hypocrites, for you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces, for you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in. I don't think he said that like politely or something. There's seven of those, by the way. Woes to you. 

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people. bones and all uncleanliness. So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you, you're full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. I don't think the people around were like, Oh, he's got such a nice tone. Listen to his tone. 

Wow. Or John 8 44, you are of your father, the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning. and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. That's not very nice, Jesus. 

Revelation 2 .20, speaking about Jezebel. Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed and those who commit adultery with her. I will throw into great tribulation unless they repent of her works. And I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am he who searched mind and heart. And I will give to each of you according to your works. 

Yikes. What is, what is Ross Dothat from the New York times? Think about that. Paul said in Galatians 1a, but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preach to you, let him be accursed. As we've said before. So now I say again, if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you receive, let him be accursed. 

The accursed in Greek is anathema. And the definition is devoted to the direst of woes. It's not very lovely sounding. Paul in Galatians 1a. Eric called the Galatians foolish. He calls people liar. 

He calls false preachers ungodly, wretched wanderers. Micah said that people hate good and love evil. That sounds judgmental. I think we need more of a strong tone from Christians. And I don't really care if Ross Dothat or whoever at the New York Times, they don't like it. We need strong tones when confronting hypocrisy, when guarding the truth, when protecting the church, when warning of judgment, and every time love requires it. 

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